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The Consequences of The Big Lie

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Frank Rich, writing in, "The New York Times" makes a point which I am very afraid will be lost in the months to come. His thesis is that there is already a timetable for a pull-out from Iraq and that that day is Election Day. He argues that the American people have decided that it is time to get out, and that the most hawkish supporters of the war are now backing away from it.

One problem he sees is that, due to The Big Lie (that the war in Iraq had anything to do with the September 11, 2001 attacks on the US by radical Islamic terrorists), is going to make Americans also stop their vigilance against real terrorists (like al Qaeda).


"But while the war is lost both as a political matter at home and a practical matter in Iraq, the exit strategy being haggled over in Washington will hardly mark the end of our woes. Few Americans will cry over the collapse of the administration's vainglorious mission to make Iraq a model of neocon nation-building. But, as some may dimly recall, there is another war going on as well - against Osama bin Laden and company.

One hideous consequence of the White House's Big Lie - fusing the war of choice in Iraq with the war of necessity that began on 9/11 - is that the public, having rejected one, automatically rejects the other. That's already happening. The percentage of Americans who now regard fighting terrorism as a top national priority is either in the single or low double digits in every poll. Thus the tragic bottom line of the Bush catastrophe: the administration has at once increased the ranks of jihadists by turning Iraq into a new training ground and recruitment magnet while at the same time exhausting America's will and resources to confront that expanded threat."


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and another danger of the big lie is how do we ever believe this or any other president that tells us the sky is falling?

peace, movie zombie
 
Date: 11/20/2005 1:12:26 PM
Author: movie zombie
and another danger of the big lie is how do we ever believe this or any other president that tells us the sky is falling?

I do not find the above to be as worrisome as letting down our guard in regard to terrorists, like al Qaeda. I am always doubtful about whether any politician is telling the truth, as everyone else should be. US security was terrible before 9/11 and has not improved much since. Our efforts have gone into the war in Iraq instead of into protecting our own shores. It is the height orf irony if we are attacked again because we didn''t bother to secure our own country! If we were more constructive in the prevention of attacks we wouldn''t have to be having discussions that no civilized country should be having, like whether to torture our prisoners or allow them to face their accusers. We would not need a draconian law like the Patriot Act if we were tending better to self-protection!
 
worse is the refusal to seal off the southern border.
Bush cut a deal with fox to keep it open.
People excaping the mexican craphole to the US is what keeps the pressure cooker lid on down there and keeps Fox in power.

Its just another example of Bush messing over the American people to help his friends.
That is the one issue that lost him my support not that I liked him that well before that.
Not protecting the border is treason in this day and age in my opinion.

biggest problem is that there wasnt anyone I liked any better running and probably wont be next time either.

Bush3 vs Hillary == no good options.
 
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