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The depth of a sapphire, help - please

caolsen

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I’m considering this ring. It’s a vendor I’ve bought from before and have had good experiences with all of my purchases. So my concern is not about the seller or the price but more about the depth of the stone. Know that some colored stones are cut deep to punch their color up, but is this too deep? I really like the setting, so if I do buy, I’d keep the stone in the setting.

The sapphire is 7.86 by 7.06 by 5.46 At 3.13 carats.

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Do know it’s been heated, that’s fine by me. Any insights would be much appreciated.
 
@caolsen Hi, I am not an expert but I know I saw that ring and wanted it, lol! I love the color. It is darker than the sapphires I have, so more toward a royal blue, but a nice balanced blue.

Others know more than me but I thought the ideal sapphire depth is about 60%. It’s possible in a vintage stone that the cut is more for richness of color than for maximum sparkle. Sapphires tend to be cut deeper than diamonds as their optical qualities are different.

If you want it, grab it up!

P.S. Your kitty is beautiful
 
I’m considering this ring. It’s a vendor I’ve bought from before and have had good experiences with all of my purchases. So my concern is not about the seller or the price but more about the depth of the stone. Know that some colored stones are cut deep to punch their color up, but is this too deep? I really like the setting, so if I do buy, I’d keep the stone in the setting.

The sapphire is 7.86 by 7.06 by 5.46 At 3.13 carats.

F9BB1136-EDFD-4D04-B186-18072A7EC604.jpeg472A6219-2AD4-4C82-B422-407C0968E268.jpeg

Do know it’s been heated, that’s fine by me. Any insights would be much appreciated.

Sorry that I am not enough of a colored gem expert to weigh in, but visually - I LOVE that vibrant blue.
 
It is indeed on the deep side but I think it was kept deep to try to hit the 3 ct mark and keep as much of the original rough material as possible.
 
I’m considering this ring. It’s a vendor I’ve bought from before and have had good experiences with all of my purchases. So my concern is not about the seller or the price but more about the depth of the stone. Know that some colored stones are cut deep to punch their color up, but is this too deep? I really like the setting, so if I do buy, I’d keep the stone in the setting.

The sapphire is 7.86 by 7.06 by 5.46 At 3.13 carats.

F9BB1136-EDFD-4D04-B186-18072A7EC604.jpeg472A6219-2AD4-4C82-B422-407C0968E268.jpeg

Do know it’s been heated, that’s fine by me. Any insights would be much appreciated.

Wow that color is just stunning!
 
It is indeed on the deep side but I think it was kept deep to try to hit the 3 ct mark and keep as much of the original rough material as possible.

Plus, it’s a step cut.
 
Have you seen pics of it not in a light box?
 
I think its a gorgeous ring but will be much darker in most lighting than in the provided image. My guess is it is more midnight than royal.
 
Yes it's deep but I suspect as Chrono has already said, that it's been cut that way to preserve carat weight. The depth may contribute to the fact that although it's royal blue it is on the darker side. Have you got photos taken in other lighting conditions because this may show quite a bit of extinction in certain lighting conditions. I have to say though that it's a lovely ring and if it's the colour and size you want then go for it and forget the depth!
 
Thanks for the replies. I am going to contact the seller and try to get some video in varying light conditions to see how much of that tantalizing electric blue is the photo booth lighting!
 
It’s stunning, the only downside is the face up size. For a 3 carat gem it looks smaller due to carat weight being in its depth.
and yes, these darker tones look spectacular when the light is right and bright but inside at night / office lighting they can look too dark.
pits a personal preference, some people adore pastel shades, others like medium blue, others want vivid and others prefer deep and dark and mysterious.
so get a few more photos in different lighting conditions, natural lighting conditions. Otherwise check what the return policy is like if you receive it and find it not as you expected.
 
The yellow sapphire in my e-ring is crazy deep and was definitely cut for weight. Unfortunately, typical of native cutting. It's a 3.35 carat with dimensions 7.96 x 7.71 x 5.96. It's REALLY deep in comparison to yours. Precision cut colored gemstone obviously don't have these issues. Sapphires do weigh more than diamonds but give you less visual on a carat for carat basis.. Considering the dimensions of my sapphire, if were a diamond then it'd be around 2.65-2/75 carats But all I can say is that despite it being a native cut, it has tons of color and sparkles very pretty. GIA unheated/untreated, which was one of the many determining factors for me. And so the depth certainly wasn't a deal breaker for me, I actually like the deeper cut---it profiles just perfectly in my 3 stone u-prong setting. Every time I look down at my hand I feel like I'm looking at a little ray of sunshine (and I'm desperate for all of the happiness I can find during these crazy political and unfortunate COVID times).

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The depth could be appropriate, imo, but you need a side view to see how bulgy the pavilion is -- that's just wasted weight. That seems petite for a 3-ct. I like the proportions of the crown (length x width) but I can not tell how much of the depth is crown and how much is pavilion.

And as many of us have said many times, the color and clarity IRL and not in a photo will affect the value ten-fold and no one can make that call from a GIA report or a vendor photo.

if you don't love it, return it. If you find yourself thinking "I know I should love it but...," return it.
 
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