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Thoughts on Natural Diamond Engagement Ring, 1.63 carat, Pear, E, SI1, $9,000 - VIDEO LINK and GIA Below

I'm not a big fan of the length (but that's a personal thing). The price seems to be very good. The light return looks to be
"typical" pear. Did you see it in person? Do you check it out outside of the jeweler's lights? Outside?
 
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tyty333 said:
I'm not a big fan of the length (but that's a personal thing). The price seems to be very good. The light return looks to be
"typical" pear. Did you see it in person? Do you check it out outside of the jeweler's lights? Outside?
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Yes I checked it out outside, it looked good. I don't have a close up video but can share a 12 inch away video if that would be helpful. Price is partly because its an estate stone.

When you say light return looks to be "typical" pear, do you mean average? i.e. its not superb light return but not bad either?
 
For my personal taste, the prongs would be too chunky for an otherwise dainty ring design. I think micro claw prongs would distract less from the diamond and give the overall aesthetic of the ring a more cohesive look. I will leave the diamond analysis to the experts ;-)
 
aisa901 said:
For my personal taste, the prongs would be too chunky for an otherwise dainty ring design. I think micro claw prongs would distract less from the diamond and give the overall aesthetic of the ring a more cohesive look. I will leave the diamond analysis to the experts ;-)
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Yes I agree. I mentioned that to the jeweler and he said he would allow me to switch to micro claws after the proposal if my significant other doesn't like it, free of charge. He did raise some concerns with a stone of this size being held by micro claws.
 
Does the jeweler has an ASET? If so, use this as a guide:
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Spacewalkee said:
Yes I checked it out outside, it looked good. I don't have a close up video but can share a 12 inch away video if that would be helpful. Price is partly because its an estate stone.

When you say light return looks to be "typical" pear, do you mean average? i.e. its not superb light return but not bad either?
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Sure, if you have an outside video might as well post it.

By "typical"...I mean not superb but not bad either. A lot of decent pears have this faceting pattern and have decent (as in typical)
light return.

For Superb, or really nice light return, you would see fewer virtual facets in the area circled in green. The blue area will reflect
light nicely and as long as they do not go dark and stay dark for an extended amount of time (while moving the stone around)
they are good. Be forewarned that this area (the blue) will tend to go dark in bright sunlight just like a round brilliant will go dark
in bright sun. The rest of the stone will not because they do not have as strong light return.
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For example...this stone,..you can see how almost the whole rounded end is like a round brilliant diamond. This stone, IMO, has
really nice light return for a pear. Pears like this are pretty hard to find.
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Spacewalkee said:
Yes I checked it out outside, it looked good. I don't have a close up video but can share a 12 inch away video if that would be helpful. Price is partly because its an estate stone.

When you say light return looks to be "typical" pear, do you mean average? i.e. its not superb light return but not bad either?
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tyty333 said:
Sure, if you have an outside video might as well post it.

By "typical"...I mean not superb but not bad either. A lot of decent pears have this faceting pattern and have decent (as in typical)
light return.

For Superb, or really nice light return, you would see fewer virtual facets in the area circled in green. The blue area will reflect
light nicely and as long as they do not go dark and stay dark for an extended amount of time (while moving the stone around)
they are good. Be forewarned that this area (the blue) will tend to go dark in bright sunlight just like a round brilliant will go dark
in bright sun. The rest of the stone will not because they do not have as strong light return.
snip3.png

For example...this stone,..you can see how almost the whole rounded end is like a round brilliant diamond. This stone, IMO, has
really nice light return for a pear. Pears like this are pretty hard to find.
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Thanks for the info! I thought the virtual facets were a good thing, why do you not want them in the green area? Maybe I'm not understanding the concept correctly.

Below is an updated link to the Flickr account. I added a short video in direct, bright sunlight. The stone is in a temporary setting. The blue area you mentioned is dark as you said it would be.

www.flickr.com

John Deere has shared 3 videos with you!

www.flickr.com www.flickr.com
 
I didnt explain that very well...

The more the light bounces around inside the diamond the worse the light return will be because it loses light
along the way. So in that green area I circled, it would be nice to see bigger facets that would show up red when looked
at through an ASET image. Instead, in the stone you posted, the facets appear to be much smaller. They still look to be
returning some light but more of the green nature when viewing through an ASET.

We tend to call areas "mushy" where light bounces around too much and never makes its way back out of the top of the stone.
The pointy end of pears tends to be mushy.

Edit...BTW, I agree with @aisa901 . I think claw prongs would do wonders for that setting/ring. This is my pear. The 4 prongs
are small claws while the one on the point is just a regular small round. This pear was acquired before I joined Pricescope and
knew nothing about pears (but I like their shape!) Anyway...posting for the claw prong example on a pear.
 

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tyty333 said:
I didnt explain that very well...

The more the light bounces around inside the diamond the worse the light return will be because it loses light
along the way. So in that green area I circled, it would be nice to see bigger facets that would show up red when looked
at through an ASET image. Instead, in the stone you posted, the facets appear to be much smaller. They still look to be
returning some light but more of the green nature when viewing through an ASET.

We tend to call areas "mushy" where light bounces around too much and never makes its way back out of the top of the stone.
The pointy end of pears tends to be mushy.

Edit...BTW, I agree with @aisa901 . I think claw prongs would do wonders for that setting/ring. This is my pear. The 4 prongs
are small claws while the one on the point is just a regular small round. This pear was acquired before I joined Pricescope and
knew nothing about pears (but I like their shape!) Anyway...posting for the claw prong example on a pear.
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Thanks, appreciate the additional info. I agree on the prongs as long as they can be small / petite claws. I'm going to propose with this first and then if my significant other prefers claws over rounds I will have the jeweler switch them out.
 
So you're going for it!?!

Be sure to show your GF claw prongs. FYI...in my opinion, petite claw prongs (when done right) show a level of craftsmanship
that you just don't get with regular round prongs. They tend to make the setting look more "custom" and less off-the-shelf.

If she decides she likes small claw prongs, be sure you show your jeweler what you mean by petite claw prongs. Whiteflash has
a good picture that shows the various prongs here...

The Ultimate Guide to Prong Settings | Whiteflash

The popular prong setting continues to be a first choice for engagement rings. Learn everything you need to know about the timeless style in our ultimate guide.
www.whiteflash.com
 
Is there any way they can unmount it for you so you can get a more accurate image?

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lulu_ma said:
Is there any way they can unmount it for you so you can get a more accurate image?

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No I can't have it unmounted at this time. Does having it mounted affect the ASET image?
 
Video wont load on here if Im needed will look tomorrow when im at my pc.
Mounted ASET images are fine, no need to unmount them.
Red green and blue are the same mounted except prong shadow. Leakage is a little more tricky it can be white grey and black all in the same image.
 
Thanks for the support. @Karl_K were you able to take a look at the ASET videos? Would love to get a professional opinion on them.
 
Im not a a fan of that chart as the best listed are not the best, the bottom left is closest to it, the others in that row are just acceptable.
That is where this one falls, bottom row, middle image.
 
Thank you, I appreciate your input. So essentially you would peg this as average / above average but not superb / best?
 
Spacewalkee said:
Thank you, I appreciate your input. So essentially you would peg this as average / above average but not superb / best?
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above average
 
Karl_K said:
Im not a a fan of that chart as the best listed are not the best, the bottom left is closest to it, the others in that row are just acceptable.
That is where this one falls, bottom row, middle image.
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Thanks Karl! Good thing to note about the charts.
 
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