Thoughts on this emerald ring

[pk888]

Hi all I was hoping to seek your opinion and help with his emerald ring I recently purchased and waiting for its arrival to be remodelled into a men’s ring

it is 4.90- 5.0carat emerald and has 34 yellow diamonds ranging i1-si2 clarity (3.80 ct t.w.). The ring weighs 11.8 grams and is 14k gold...

what would you say is the fair value of this this ring

and what would you say the quality of this emerald is?

Thank you and your responses will be greatly appreciated

 

[LilAlex]

Interesting idea.

I think there is too little value in the emerald and too much in the metal and the fussy diamond layout to make this a good candidate for cannibalizing the center stone.

Emerald itself is pale, asymmetric, heavily included (and probably heavily treated). Mounting looks new and inexpensively made to my inexpert eye. Sorry. You may love it in person, though.

 

[pk888]

Interesting idea.

I think there is too little value in the emerald and too much in the metal and the fussy diamond layout to make this a good candidate for cannibalizing the center stone.

Emerald itself is pale, asymmetric, heavily included (and probably heavily treated). Mounting looks new and inexpensively made to my inexpert eye. Sorry. You may love it in person, though.

Any inputs in what the value is?
What would you have paid for this item

 

[LilAlex]

Any inputs in what the value is?
What would you have paid for this item

I'm all about the center stone so would not have cross-shopped this.

The emerald is big so even a low dollar-value per ct will give you something. Same thing with the many, many (low-color?) diamonds. I can't say for sure since it looks like the saturation is amped up (yellowing the diamonds) and even then the emerald is pale.

Others here know more about this type of piece but no more than three figures, imo.

 

[pk888]

The diamonds that were used are YELLOW diamonds that’s why they look yellow

Paid $2200 Canadian for the item

 

[pk888]

Was thinking that the diamonds and gold value would be around 1100?
14k gold @ 45$/gram and around 16-18$ for each of the 34 yellow diamonds

 

[pk888]

Do you mean no more than 3 figures for the whole ring or per carat of the emerald?

Thank you

 

[LilAlex]

Do you mean no more than 3 figures for the whole ring or per carat of the emerald?

I meant for the whole ring. Looks like you did some thinking around this. I did not formally estimate for the metal or the diamonds so you are way ahead of me there. But then, you are not interested in those aspects of the ring.

So that retail figure was twice my threshold. I was not assigning a "value," per se.

The emerald has an appealing (if very non-ideal) hue/tone, imo -- I like the paler ones with a hint of blue -- and it may glow in direct light owing to all the inclusions. More likely, though, it is barely gem-grade.

There is a high-volume eBay vendor who sells tons of stuff like this. I assume they are all Chinese-made.

I hoped someone else more familiar with this market might weigh in...

 

[Bron357]

Hmmm.
The emerald I would say is only “fair” quality. Its presumably oiled and is included. While it is likely Columbian, the hue is shifting to the yellow rather than blue and the tone is weak. It is windowed, you can see through to the setting underneath (possibly why it’s hue is yellowish).
The Diamonds, while many in quantity are not what I’d assess as fancy yellows more likely lower range ie S to Z and with low clarity grade.
I feel the price you paid was “weighted” towards the diamond carat value rather than the size/ quality of the emerald.
If you are just interested in the emerald I think $2,200 CAN was too much but for the ring as a whole the price paid was good.

 

[pk888]

Yeah I paid with the whole ring in consideration as material that can be potentially melted down and reused for something else...

Thinking that gold and diamonds would be roughly at 1-1.1k cad and the emerald being 1.1-1.2K cad

 

[T L]

The diamonds are cape diamonds, not white or fancy yellow, but they’re sparkly. They are less valuable than fancy yellow or white diamonds. I would think that emerald is around $200/ct and the diamonds around $300/ct for the size, clarity and color, and if you add the gold weight, I would probably pay around $3k tops.

 

[pk888]

Thanks for this input... appreciate it

It’s the first time Im hearing about cape diamonds - will research on this more

Thanks for providing price points

I feel better now since I paid 2230 total with taxes and shipping

 

[pk888]

I'm all about the center stone so would not have cross-shopped this.

The emerald is big so even a low dollar-value per ct will give you something. Same thing with the many, many (low-color?) diamonds. I can't say for sure since it looks like the saturation is amped up (yellowing the diamonds) and even then the emerald is pale.

Others here know more about this type of piece but no more than three figures, imo.

What’s considered a low carat value

 

[LilAlex]

What’s considered a low carat value

I don't know. There is no "lower limit" for emerald. If it's heavily treated and heavily included, then pretty low. Unless you plan to sell it, it does not matter. If you were to plan to sell it as a private seller, you would get very little money for it, imo. Someone may want to get a better-looking but lower-priced stone that could be custom-cut to fit in place of then emerald -- even a nice garnet.

I think you want me to say that you got a good deal. It may be "worth" what you paid for it when you add it all up. If you enjoy it, that's all that matters.

I only commented (initially) because you specifically asked if this was a good ring to pull the emerald from -- and I thought this ring was particularly poorly suited to that approach since the centerpiece is the lowest-quality element of the ring.

 

[pk888]

Mmm I’m more looking into what the actual value might have been... if there is a grading system and a way to identify low to high quality, wouldn’t there be a rough range or estimate as to how much per carat it would be? Is a low range in your opinion like what TL had suggested (200/carat)?

At first I was hoping to remodel this ring... But also open to reselling it to someone who is interested and make a profit out of the ring.

It still has yet to arrive next week so till then, I haven’t really seen the actual item yet...

I’m not more so about getting a good deal but wanting to know more about emeralds and valuing them as in fairly new to emeralds and wanting to get input and opinions from people who might know more

 

[qubitasaurus]

You should take a look at JR columbian emeralds. You might get a price comparitor there. I think if the emerald is all you are keeping from this ring. Then value it on the emerald.

It can be hard to get back the value in a piece when you sell it second hand. I think the setting and daimonds will not fetch very much if they are resold (they dont look like yellow daimonds actually in thr photo. More like low colour and clarity white daimonds. There are just a lot of them so still definitely worth something.). Probably resale of the setting alone would net at most 600-800. Settings are typically hard to resell, other than for scrap parts. As someone has to have a large stone to fit the empty mount.

 

[pk888]

It’s finally here and I am very very pleased

I think The actual item is wayyy better than the photos they provided when we bought it

 

[Mreader]

I think your pictures ARE prettier than the vendor pics. I also am loving that crown ring - too cool.

 

[pk888]

I was soo surprised to see the actual ring

Yea the actual looks way better and I think that’s something to commend the vendor - them having to emphasize on the imperfections rather than having super nice pics and lower quality

 

[pk888]

WOW you were sooo right

These aren’t as white or fancy yellow but wow they SPARKLE A LOT!!!

The diamonds are cape diamonds, not white or fancy yellow, but they’re sparkly. They are less valuable than fancy yellow or white diamonds. I would think that emerald is around $200/ct and the diamonds around $300/ct for the size, clarity and color, and if you add the gold weight, I would probably pay around $3k tops.

 

[T L]

WOW you were sooo right

These aren’t as white or fancy yellow but wow they SPARKLE A LOT!!!

Well I’m glad you’re happy with your purchase. It’s a fair price for the ring! Enjoy all that sparkle and emerald loveliness!