Thoughts on this HPHT Natural Diamond For Engagement

[bill_diamond]

Is $16000 a fair price for this diamond? I wasn't initially planning to get a HPHT diamond since it loses it value but we are considering it as we will not sell it anyways. How much does does it usually lose? Is the proportions fine? Someone mentioned it might be "steep deep". Is that super bad?

 

[MissGotRocks]

You need to hit the report concern button and asked that your inquiry be moved to the lab diamond portion of the forum. There are folks there that are very knowledgeable about labs and their pricing. I am sure they will be able to help you!

 

[bill_diamond]

You need to hit the report concern button and asked that your inquiry be moved to the lab diamond portion of the forum. There are folks there that are very knowledgeable about labs and their pricing. I am sure they will be able to help you!

This is a natural diamond though not lab! It's a natural diamond that has been treated.

 

[freddyboston]

Yes the proportions are off - 36.5% doesn't work with a 41%....
Technically its a Heat Treated (by HPHT) Natural so hard to say what forum category it belongs in.... Prior to the Lab diamond craze - these cheats were a great way for people to afford/buy a diamond... but now I don't see the point of buying a color treated natural when you could just buy 100% Lab for much less. If you want a natural get a 100% natural.

example here's a legit diamond - 100% Natural Warm Cape Color w/ Med FLuor

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/3.26-carat-m-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-22907200

 

[lovedogs]

Proportions aren't good

 

[MissGotRocks]

This is a natural diamond though not lab! It's a natural diamond that has been treated.

Oh, my apologies! I didn't realize. I don't like the cut and I wouldn't buy a diamond that has been treated. Just my two cents!

 

[lovedogs]

If you care about size above all else and busget is aroind 16k, this is a decent option

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/3.01-carat-l-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-19663502

 

[oldminer]

Buying am HPHT natural treated diamond is a highly questionable choice. You might pay less than for a natural color mined diamond, but far more than you'd pay for a Lab diamond if you shop properly. If you want to ever sell or trade your HPHT stone, you will find nearly no dealer or retailer willing to pay much of anything for it. That treatment works fine to alter the color, but it just didn't become a popular or a supported treatment. You would lose most of what you paid. Pretty much the same thing happens with a Lab diamond, but you will lose much less since you should paid far less to begin with.

I can't make any case to intentionally buy an HPHT color enhanced treated diamond, but I read this thread to see other opinions, just in case. I think it would be a very difficult case to make.

 

[Lookinagain]

please don't spend $16k on an HPHT stone. If you can swing the extra funds for what @freddyboston do that. If $16k is firm, then others here can help you find a natural, untreated stone in that range. Does it have to be 3 cts?

 

[MissGotRocks]

Yes, and while GIA triple excellent can be broad, that stone only has very good for polish and symmetry. That’s another strike against the cut of the stone but the treatment trumps all. Run!

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

These stones have one benefit - they are Type II (two) diamonds which are very rare - around 2-3% of all naturals. They tend to grow fast and very large - probably every diamond +100carat is type II.
GE and a well connected NY dealer teamed up and had dozens pass the through GIA undetected in the late 1990's - caused a stir.
M T, the dealer, was the key note speaker that year at the 1999 GIA symposium about the same time the cheating was announced.
I have a section in my book on the topic.

But to answer the question - I agree with Dave Atlas and others. And my opinion on the cut is already stated.