Tiffany's Victoria Bracelet Replica

[galatie]

Hi all,

I am interested in replicating the Tiffany's Victoria bracelet and will have it done either by IDJ or a local jeweller who has come recommended to me here in Singapore.

Please see pictures below of examples that they have sent over to me:






Can I ask which vendor do you think does the better just replicating this particular piece?

I believe the prices for both would be similar.

Thank you!!!!

 

[tyty333]

How would you advise us on evaluating a "local jeweller who has come recommended" to you in Singapore?

Are you looking to know whether we would recommend IDJ to do the work?

"Please see pictures below of examples that they have sent over to me:" Who has sent them to you? Singapore jeweller?
Is that an example of their work?

 

[galatie]

Thanks, sorry for the confusion.

The first picture is work that the local jeweller has done. Alot of friends have recommended them to me so I am pretty confident that the craftmanship will be good, but have never used them before, and am a bit apprehensive.

The second picture is work that IDJ has done to replicate this particular piece. I have used IDJ before and was pleased with their work. The only issue is that I am based in Singapore, so to work alongside the vendor in this project would be easier if they are locally based. In addition, it helps in case I need to do any adjustments, alterations, or returns, etc. I would definitely use IDJ if I were still living in NYC, but alas, not the case anymore.

I think the main difference to me between the two bracelets is the design of the prong or metal that is between the flower and stone?

 

[WillyDiamond]

Wondering if the Tiffany piece is patented.

 

[AllAboardTheBlingTrain]

Wondering if the Tiffany piece is patented.

I doubt that the Victoria line can be patented - four Marquis flowers have been around for ages, well before Tiffany was doing it.

Besides most places cant/wont exactly copy it perfectly (in terms of the dimensions of the marquises, prong shape and placement, angle of the baskets and stones etc).

IMO this is generic enough that getting an “inspired by” version is totally fine, but that’s my opinion.

 

[tyty333]

Ah, got it! Do you have any more pictures (or can they send more) of the local jeweler's bracelet? I would want to work locally, but
the round brilliants in the IDJ bracelet look like they are cut better (from the few I can see). That is why I would like to see
more pics of the local bracelet.

The IDJ bracelet looks* nicer (in my mind) but mainly because it's a better picture. It is much easier to evaluate than the local
jewelers bracelet.

 

[lovedogs]

I think the IDJ one looks nicer and more delicate. And I agree that this design is so common that's it's not a replica, but an "inspired by".

 

[MissGotRocks]

I too prefer the picture of the IDJ bracelet. Looks more defined. It really just depends on your preference as neither of them are exact replicas. To that end, you can design the bracelet any way you want it to look.

 

[WillyDiamond]

I doubt that the Victoria line can be patented - four Marquis flowers have been around for ages, well before Tiffany was doing it.

Besides most places cant/wont exactly copy it perfectly (in terms of the dimensions of the marquises, prong shape and placement, angle of the baskets and stones etc).

IMO this is generic enough that getting an “inspired by” version is totally fine, but that’s my opinion.

Yes it is patented. See below from Tiffany website page:

Tiffany Victoria® Bracelets​

The “R” in the circle shows they have a patent.

 

[lulu_ma]

Yes it is patented. See below from Tiffany website page:

Tiffany Victoria® Bracelets​

The “R” in the circle shows they have a patent.

Actually, the "R" indicates that the name "Tiffany Victoria" is trademarked for jewelry and sunglasses.

Trademark Details For TIFFANY VICTORIA (Serial Number 86581651)

TIFFANY VICTORIA is a trademark of TIFFANY (NJ) LLC Filed in 1427673600, the TIFFANY VICTORIA covers Eyewear; sunglasses; . Jewelry;

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https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=86581651&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch

 

[AllAboardTheBlingTrain]

Yes it is patented. See below from Tiffany website page:

Tiffany Victoria® Bracelets​

The “R” in the circle shows they have a patent.

What I meant is that they can’t copyright or patent the design itself as it was an existing design before Tiffany launched the Victoria line. Victoria was launched in the late 90s IIRC and the 4 marquise flower design was around well before that. My granddad had a pair of cufflinks like that in the 70s or 80s. The name can be patented though, as lulu_ma said.

 

[galatie]

Thanks everyone for all of the advice so far.

You are right, I think the most suitable word for this project would be inspired, not replicated, apologies.

I asked the local jeweller if he had any more pictures of the piece, but he does not, unfortunately, which does make me feel slightly uneasy but he does come really well recommended here.

Also, I should clarify further. The IDJ bracelet pictured above (which is the second picture), has been made with lab grown diamonds, not natural. For this bracelet, they have quoted me 6k for 5.70ctw of lab-grown diamonds, color E, clarity VS1. If you were to opt for the same bracelet with earth-mined diamonds, the color would drop slightly to F, with the clarity remaining at VS1, and the price would be $24,000, which is not within my budget. Note that the first pic is made from the local jeweller using natural diamonds.

So therefore, I am thinking of choosing between having the bracelet made with the below:

1. locally recommended jeweller, 6.5 inches length with 80 pcs marquise diamonds – 3.79cts & 20 pcs round natural diamonds – 2.22cts, for 11,200 USD.

2. IDJ bracelet, 5.70ctw of lab-grown diamonds, color E, clarity VS1, for 6,000 USD

Which would you choose?

Please see below a picture of the actual bracelet from the Tiffany's store:



Thank you!!!

 

[MissGotRocks]

I would always choose natural but that doesn’t mean it is the right choice for you. Do you value size or lab vs. natural? If one of these attributes is more important to you than another, you might have your answer.

 

[AllAboardTheBlingTrain]

What is the colour and clarity of the stones used by the local jeweller? I think maybe I missed that?

I feel like the local jeweller’s bracelet has a higher caratage and is at less than half the price of IDJ natural which definitely sways me. Also because Singapore isn’t cheap for jewellery by any means so why is the IDJ one THAT much more expensive?

So I would look at the colour and clarity, and also the gold purity and weight of both bracelets to first see if the comparison is apples to apples. Then you can see how much of the difference can be attributed to labour.

FWIW, personally I am totally fine going down to G or H for small stones like this. but you will have to gauge your own sensitivity to colour. I personally would want a bracelet either in gold (18kt preferred but I could go down to 14kt) or platinum.

I personally am not a fan of lab grown diamonds so I wouldn’t go for them, but if you’re comfortable I would find out more about whether 6k is an acceptable price for LGDs. To me, it seems high but US has high labour costs.