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Treasure Found at Concentration Camp

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This story of "treasure" found at the Maidanek concentration camp seems singularly a propos to a political forum on Pricescope, where we discuss gems and jewelry all the time. As the story tells, people facing death buried the items precious to them not because they would ever see them again, but to keep whatever they could from going to their tormentors, the Nazis. It was a last act of defiance.

As an American and a human being I dislike racism and prejudice, but I no longer fear for the Jews. The Jews now have Israel. The IDF (Israeli Defense Force) is full of strong, able men and women who will never again let Jews be the objects of genocide. The Israeli commandos did what no one thought possible at Entebbe when an airliner was hijacked and the passengers held hostage.

The legacy of World war II is what makes me a proponent of Israel. I dislike some of their right wing policies, but the existence of Israel is necessary.

Some excerpts are below.

"LUBLIN, Poland, Oct. 31 - Adam Frydman shut his heavy-lidded eyes and vividly recalled his first glimpse of this unplowed field 62 years ago. He was 20 and had just arrived from the Warsaw ghetto with his father and brother. He imagined hundreds of Polish Jews huddled behind barbed wire fences. He heard barking dogs. He inhaled the unmistakable smell of death. When he got his bearings, he pointed unambiguously.

'There,' he said.

So there is where they dug. Barely beating the season's first frost and oblivious to a punishing wind, a team of archaeologists transformed the former Maidanek death camp into a crime scene, complete with victims, witnesses and evidence.

After carving only a fraction of the 1,100-by-164-foot field into checkerboard plots that resembled shallow graves, they found about 20 women's rings, a heavy gold bracelet, 2 watches, gold-framed eyeglasses, a miniature Roman Catholic religious medallion and 15 valuable American Eagle gold coins. Even after the very first find, a tiny cut stone - maybe glass or a garnet - they declared their mission a success.

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'These people realized help was not coming, that they were the last Jews in the world,' said Mr. Svoray, who was joined here by his wife, Mikhal, and their two teenage children.

He and Mr. Mazer explained that they were not treasure hunters, not in the conventional sense.

'We've spent a million dollars so far to find rings worth maybe $100 retail,' said Mr. Mazer, who organized the expedition and won the museum's cooperation. 'But the objects tell a powerful story. There is no way that a modern person can understand the experience, but looking at an object, understanding the circumstances of how it got here and being involved in its rescue gives us all an opportunity to connect with the people here and their sacrifice.'

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After three days of digging with guidance from Mr. Frydman and an assist from a metal detector, Mr. Mazer presented Mr. Kranz with the unearthed objects, which perhaps will go to Israel and elsewhere as part of a traveling exhibit. The team arranged to secure the site and hopes to return next spring."


Treasures Emerge from the Field of the Dead at Maidanek

Deborah
 
''Things that make you go hmmmmm''.... moving story.. heart wretching and victorious at the same time
 
I think its very disrespectful that they are digging it up.
 
Date: 11/4/2005 4:00:50 PM
Author: strmrdr
I think its very disrespectful that they are digging it up.


I agree. These people died without respect and "grave robbing" no matter how much later, no mater what educational story telling they think the jewelry can provide it is wrong. Unless they somehow contact their living relatives to return the treasures like storm said I think it further disrespects them.
 
I think this has been a debate among archelogists and historians for centuries. Do we remember by physically uncovering? Some would claim that to unearth Pompei is grave desecration. Others, that uncovering the graves of the pharohs were are desecration as well. The unearthing of mass graves in Somolia or even looking for the titanic, recoving artifacts in order to preserve history... a desecration to a grave.

Would it better to leave those items there? To let them forever remain a mystery? Wasn''t it shown to the archeologists at the site by someone who was there? Is it no inspiring to know that there was someone who did survive in order to ucover these items so that one can celebrate the lives of those that ... in essence.. refused to die? What is greater disrepect, unearthing items that will help people to remember? Or to leave them below to the surface, to be slowly forgotten? Forgotten just as the souls that put them there were? there is something to be said about crying out from the grave, refusing to be passed over and forgotten.

The man who led them there was not some treasure hunter looking for trinkets.. but a man uncovering a past and allowing these people to live through those message... we may be killed... but we refuse to die!

It is debated.
 
Date: 11/4/2005 9:22:39 PM
Author: MINE!!
I think this has been a debate among archelogists and historians for centuries.

I am not sure for how long it has been a subject of debate among scholars. The early nineteenth century attitude toward archaeology and art was that anything, "found" somewhere else should be brought back to "civilization". That is how the Elgin Marbles wound up in England.

I agree that in modern times it has been a subject of enormous serious debate and I think you hit all the high points in your posting above.

Right now there are disputes, the details of which I have forgotten, over whether Native American remains should be used for scholarly or medical purposes (whichever it was the argument was persuasive), or left as they were out of respect.

I think I will go look up the dispute because I remember that the reason for which scholars wanted to study them had some purpose; it wasn''t a "no-brainer" to say, "Leave the remains alone".

Great posting, Mine.

Deb
 
Date: 11/5/2005 7:36:07 AM
Author: AGBF
I think I will go look up the dispute because I remember that the reason for which scholars wanted to study them had some purpose; it wasn't a 'no-brainer' to say, 'Leave the remains alone'.

Well...I cannot find it. I did do some interesting reading, however. I thought that it was worth posting a link to the story of Ishi's brain. I had read about Ishi, but I do not know if I ever knew this story about his brain.

One point that this graphic reading I did drove home was that at Maidenek no one is dealing with the actual remains of the people involved, but rather with their possessions. I do not think that that makes or breaks an argument about whether those possessions should be disturbed, but I think it should be included in the discussion.

Ishi

Deborah
 
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