Find your diamond
Find your jewelry
shape
carat
color
clarity

Upgrade Candidates

KEV123

KEV123

Rough_Rock
Joined
Sep 28, 2020
Messages
22
Got some really great advice last week from PS folks that saved me from buying a stone that we may not have ultimately been happy with. Went back to the drawing board and increased the budget a bit. Hoping for some thoughts on the following options, please let me know what you think!! I am sensitive to color in my current I color, hoping the H would be an upgrade and appear more white facing with an ideal cut. Looks like for our budget above 3 carats and good clarity and ideal proportions all results keep coming back at H color.


3.32 H VVS2 Looks to be ideal proportions. Does this one look more "yellow" than a typical H or the other stones? This one would be more ideal for the budget.

3.50 H VVS2 Looks to be ideal proportions.

3.53 H VS1 Again, look like ideal proportions: (Absolutely Max Budget - Not sure we would be comfortable with this pricing)
  1. https://www.rarecarat.com/product/8...14f8a-980c-4939-9c3f-668ec41845d1&postalCode=
  2. https://static.adiamor.com/pdfview/43296900.pdf

Wildcard: this ring is super price friendly and would allow us to pay all cash which is attractive. We would likely upgrade again in the future with any of these stones to get more into colorless range, just not a reality now. It is already super ideal cut/H&A but it does have way more inclusions. Although when I was looking at BG stones and some of WF this only seems slightly more included than some of the VS2 stones listed. If I could get verification and videos that show it is eye-clean would this be a good ring?

3.7 H SI2
https://s3.amazonaws.com/dtol-cert-images/AGS_pdf/104104204002.pdf
 
Please some one reply in detail. I don’t have the time right now.

with your budget being in the mid-60s, I really think you could swing a custom cut CBI or WF even over 3 carats in an H and VS2. Have you considered this. All it takes is an email and phone call to HPD to see if this is an option for you before you commit to these (cross your finger) stones.
 
LLJsmom said:
Please some one reply in detail. I don’t have the time right now.

with your budget being in the mid-60s, I really think you could swing a custom cut CBI or WF even over 3 carats in an H and VS2. Have you considered this. All it takes is an email and phone call to HPD to see if this is an option for you before you commit to these (cross your finger) stones.
Click to expand...


Thanks! I will try CBI, have not tried there yet. I have been working with WhiteFlash already and they seem great just do not have anything above flat 3.0 carats right now without going all the way to 4 carats/80K budget. Would love to be between 3.3-3.7.
 
Considering that you say you will likely upgrade again in the future, I would highly recommend sticking with Whiteflash or HPDiamonds for their excellent upgrade policies.

Since you already plan to upgrade, what about going with what they have that is closest now (flat 3.0) and then enjoy the anticipation of upgrading to 3.3-3.7 with higher color? I have a feeling H may not scratch the itch for too long given what you said, so even if you hit your size goals you may be craving that upgrade sooner rather than later anyway. If you go with one of these companies with great upgrade policies, it's easier/sooner done than you might think.
 
This one might be over your budget but it does check most of your boxes. If you are uncertain of an H, here is a G, VVS2. Although, I have one of their stones, it is an H (high H) and it faces up very white. Perfect cut can hide the color nicely. But bigger the stone, the more likely you are to see the color. People report to start seeing the tint at I color.

 
I see that each one of the RareCarat ones has a different background and lighting in the spinning images. I really like # 3.32 H-VV2. If the lower weight is no problematic, then it is going to be a winner on price. Please understand, it does look browner than the second H-VVS2 3.50 but I believe it is the lighting or color temperature adjustment of the lighting which makes these diamond look different color. Look at the background color around these two diamonds #2 is much bluer than #1. This has an effect on how our eyes see "color" in the spinning diamond. It is throwing you off and will not look that way if the lighting was the same in each. The third diamond, who knows? Why would it have a black background? Strange marketing or experimentation, possibly.

If you don't prefer to go under 3.50ct, then #2 is a winner. It ups the price from number 1 but hits an important weight increment. I don't see anything wrong with it, but many of us could use the difference in cost to do something else, too. We all used to go on vacations, etc. Now, being stuck, priorities may change, but it is not a forever thing. It depends on your finances and aspirations, not ours. You need to feel pleased and not doubtful or regretful once you make the purchase. It should be completely right, not immediately questioned or doubted.

I see no special reason for selecting number 3. Maybe someone will chime in on that. It is a very nice diamond, for sure. I doubt it could bring more pleasure than number 2.

With all you concern for color, don't go with a different lab and have potential issues both with color and clarity. Will this particular AGS graded stone look to you like a good H? Will this stone be "eye-clean"? You'll go into buying a new diamond with two important areas of doubt when you have three perfectly great diamonds that you can just simply rely on already found.
 
These are much better than the stones in your first post! I started looking for you when I saw your response to me but didn’t get a chance to post. I do have a few thoughts....if you know you’re going to upgrade in color or size or both, I do suggest going with one of the super ideal vendors who have much easier upgrade policies. Did you look at this one from WF? It’s a bit over 3ct but maybe it could be a placeholder while they custom cut you another one or while you wait for more inventory. https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4164584.htm

While I do like these options and think you could get a larger stone/whiter stone without going the super ideal route, I also think at this price point ($65k is not chump change) you should work with a vendor who will be able to bring stones in for you and provide advanced imaging. I know that IDJ will certainly do this and even has better pricing than many online vendors and I’d suggest working with Yekutiel. He’s excellent!
 
KEV123 said:
Thanks! I will try CBI, have not tried there yet. I have been working with WhiteFlash already and they seem great just do not have anything above flat 3.0 carats right now without going all the way to 4 carats/80K budget. Would love to be between 3.3-3.7.
Click to expand...

You are the customer so stick to what you want. WF is great. I have a WF stone. But if they don’t / can’t get you the size you want, that is no one’s fault. You can’t be expected to buy from them if they don’t have what you want. You’re spending a lot of money. You owe it to yourself to explore every option. Don’t compromise if you don’t have to.
 
daisygrl said:
This one might be over your budget but it does check most of your boxes. If you are uncertain of an H, here is a G, VVS2. Although, I have one of their stones, it is an H (high H) and it faces up very white. Perfect cut can hide the color nicely. But bigger the stone, the more likely you are to see the color. People report to start seeing the tint at I color.

Click to expand...

Thank you, it looks like a stunner of a stone. Unfortunately, outside of our price range but something to aspire to for sure! I left a message for HPI because so many people here have recommended them and their work does look great. I have not heard back yet but hope maybe next week, figure they may be closed over weekend!
 
oldminer said:
I see that each one of the RareCarat ones has a different background and lighting in the spinning images. I really like # 3.32 H-VV2. If the lower weight is no problematic, then it is going to be a winner on price. Please understand, it does look browner than the second H-VVS2 3.50 but I believe it is the lighting or color temperature adjustment of the lighting which makes these diamond look different color. Look at the background color around these two diamonds #2 is much bluer than #1. This has an effect on how our eyes see "color" in the spinning diamond. It is throwing you off and will not look that way if the lighting was the same in each. The third diamond, who knows? Why would it have a black background? Strange marketing or experimentation, possibly.

If you don't prefer to go under 3.50ct, then #2 is a winner. It ups the price from number 1 but hits an important weight increment. I don't see anything wrong with it, but many of us could use the difference in cost to do something else, too. We all used to go on vacations, etc. Now, being stuck, priorities may change, but it is not a forever thing. It depends on your finances and aspirations, not ours. You need to feel pleased and not doubtful or regretful once you make the purchase. It should be completely right, not immediately questioned or doubted.

I see no special reason for selecting number 3. Maybe someone will chime in on that. It is a very nice diamond, for sure. I doubt it could bring more pleasure than number 2.

With all you concern for color, don't go with a different lab and have potential issues both with color and clarity. Will this particular AGS graded stone look to you like a good H? Will this stone be "eye-clean"? You'll go into buying a new diamond with two important areas of doubt when you have three perfectly great diamonds that you can just simply rely on already found.
Click to expand...

Thank you so much for taking the time to write a thorough response to the stones. Our first purchase we just trusted and learned the hard way we can only recoup ~20-30% of purchase price of our stone so this has made us super hesitant/almost overly cautious with the upgrade especially knowing we would stand to lose a lot more if we do not pick right this time on stone or vendor!

We have learned so much during this process but we still are definitely not the experts! I didn't expect to upgrade from this current stone purchase but want to make sure it is an option and we would maintain the value if we did especially if we can't tick all the boxes on this next purchase due to stone availability/budget.

I think I am the same as you, if we go for one of the 4 stones, it would likely be the 3.32 H. I still think this is a good size and is within the budget range we were hoping for. Appreciate the feedback that I may not see performance/quality differences in other two stones that justify the $10-15K additional cost.

On your last piece of message regarding being concerned with color and quality. That was in relation to the "wild card" cheaper option right? I like the size and price on that but you are right...I do wonder if I would see inclusions whenever I look or assume they are there. Very valid point.
 
ac117 said:
These are much better than the stones in your first post! I started looking for you when I saw your response to me but didn’t get a chance to post. I do have a few thoughts....if you know you’re going to upgrade in color or size or both, I do suggest going with one of the super ideal vendors who have much easier upgrade policies. Did you look at this one from WF? It’s a bit over 3ct but maybe it could be a placeholder while they custom cut you another one or while you wait for more inventory. https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4164584.htm

While I do like these options and think you could get a larger stone/whiter stone without going the super ideal route, I also think at this price point ($65k is not chump change) you should work with a vendor who will be able to bring stones in for you and provide advanced imaging. I know that IDJ will certainly do this and even has better pricing than many online vendors and I’d suggest working with Yekutiel. He’s excellent!
Click to expand...

Thank you! We are learning as we work through this upgrade process. So happy you were frank with me on last post, I really almost bought the F color stone and BG staff said they would recommend (probably b/c of proportions) but the brillianteering comment was sitting with me.

Thank you for sending that stone! I agree with you, if we go with WhiteFlash, I think this will be the stone we ultimately purchase. It is at a very comfortable price point for the budget and Whiteflash will allow us to upgrade. I have been working with Becca and she is SO patient! I feel like I have had so many questions/nerves with this purchase after finding out we were played on our first diamond purchase (promised upgradeable then vendor undercut us on trade in pricing and up-charged new ring quotes! - needless to say we will be keeping my first stone and giving it to one of the kids..if that ever happens :-/).

I love your suggestion of IDJ. I had never heard of them before. I am working with a GIA XXX jeweler in California and they have been bringing in stones as I request them but it is all cellphone videos/no advanced imaging is available so still leave you in the dark a bit still.

Very excited at this IDJ recommendation. I have been wondering all along if I there is someone who can help me source a great GIA XXX stone and provide imaging to help! So far we have done all the legwork and pretty sure we have seen every diamond available, or at least it feels that way sometimes!
 
CareBear said:
I don't have a stone to recommend but I will say that 60k+ for a 3.5ct H ( any clarity), that is not super ideal, is not a good price.
Click to expand...

Thank you! Side note, like the nickname! That is what my family calls me as well but with a K.
 
LLJsmom said:
You are the customer so stick to what you want. WF is great. I have a WF stone. But if they don’t / can’t get you the size you want, that is no one’s fault. You can’t be expected to buy from them if they don’t have what you want. You’re spending a lot of money. You owe it to yourself to explore every option. Don’t compromise if you don’t have to.
Click to expand...

Thank you! Appreciate the support and answers to my questions. Also...congratulations on your new stone. You are the one that just got the D color from I think it was HPI right? If so...GORGEOUS!

Question for you... do you think there is a major difference in quality between HPI and WhiteFlash or fairly comparable? HPI may not be in our budget just quite yet but helpful to know for future! Since you have worked with both figured I'd ask for your thoughts!
 
KEV123 said:
Thank you! We are learning as we work through this upgrade process. So happy you were frank with me on last post, I really almost bought the F color stone and BG staff said they would recommend (probably b/c of proportions) but the brillianteering comment was sitting with me.

Thank you for sending that stone! I agree with you, if we go with WhiteFlash, I think this will be the stone we ultimately purchase. It is at a very comfortable price point for the budget and Whiteflash will allow us to upgrade. I have been working with Becca and she is SO patient! I feel like I have had so many questions/nerves with this purchase after finding out we were played on our first diamond purchase (promised upgradeable then vendor undercut us on trade in pricing and up-charged new ring quotes! - needless to say we will be keeping my first stone and giving it to one of the kids..if that ever happens :-/).

I love your suggestion of IDJ. I had never heard of them before. I am working with a GIA XXX jeweler in California and they have been bringing in stones as I request them but it is all cellphone videos/no advanced imaging is available so still leave you in the dark a bit still.

Very excited at this IDJ recommendation. I have been wondering all along if I there is someone who can help me source a great GIA XXX stone and provide imaging to help! So far we have done all the legwork and pretty sure we have seen every diamond available, or at least it feels that way sometimes!
Click to expand...

Haha I really meant to soften my post with some additional options for you the other day but I’m glad you got the point bc we want you to end up with an amazing stone!! I completely understand the hesitation after getting screwed over - honestly, that’s why WF/HPD are really top notch and the best if an upgrade policy is important to you bc you only need to spend $1 more to upgrade, no limits on how many times, which is really so easy. WF does always have the largest inventory though, which is helpful. BG is also a super ideal vendor but you need to upgrade at least 2 of 3 (carat, color, clarity) so that’s limiting. Victor Canera is another super ideal option but I’m not sure what the upgrade policy is.
IDJ is really great and I know Yekutiel will be able to find you a fabulous stone but I’m not sure about their upgrade policy and it might not be as easy as the above vendors so it just depends on what you want!
One more suggestion, if you’re able to, WF and others have a “try before you buy” option if you wanted to compare their stone to another and see if the super ideal/higher price tag is noticeable and worth it to you over a GIA XXX with excellent imaging.
 
KEV123 said:
Thank you! We are learning as we work through this upgrade process. So happy you were frank with me on last post, I really almost bought the F color stone and BG staff said they would recommend (probably b/c of proportions) but the brillianteering comment was sitting with me.

Thank you for sending that stone! I agree with you, if we go with WhiteFlash, I think this will be the stone we ultimately purchase. It is at a very comfortable price point for the budget and Whiteflash will allow us to upgrade. I have been working with Becca and she is SO patient! I feel like I have had so many questions/nerves with this purchase after finding out we were played on our first diamond purchase (promised upgradeable then vendor undercut us on trade in pricing and up-charged new ring quotes! - needless to say we will be keeping my first stone and giving it to one of the kids..if that ever happens :-/).

I love your suggestion of IDJ. I had never heard of them before. I am working with a GIA XXX jeweler in California and they have been bringing in stones as I request them but it is all cellphone videos/no advanced imaging is available so still leave you in the dark a bit still.

Very excited at this IDJ recommendation. I have been wondering all along if I there is someone who can help me source a great GIA XXX stone and provide imaging to help! So far we have done all the legwork and pretty sure we have seen every diamond available, or at least it feels that way sometimes!
Click to expand...

Nothing against IDJ. I would get the upgrade policy in writing if you go this route.
 
KEV123 said:
Thank you! Appreciate the support and answers to my questions. Also...congratulations on your new stone. You are the one that just got the D color from I think it was HPI right? If so...GORGEOUS!

Question for you... do you think there is a major difference in quality between HPI and WhiteFlash or fairly comparable? HPI may not be in our budget just quite yet but helpful to know for future! Since you have worked with both figured I'd ask for your thoughts!
Click to expand...

Based only on the stones I saw, I preferred CBI. I have seen 4 CBIs, and all struck me as very sparkly, lively, and they stood out in my memory, one that I saw about 7 years ago, one about 2 years ago, and two when I was choosing my recent stone. I saw a D and an E. I have one WF Expert Selection, G, have seen a large 4 carat G, another 2 carat G or F, I forget, and a F this time around when I was choosing. The WF are well cut and bright. I felt I saw more lively sparkles from the CBIs I saw, as compared to the WF stones I saw. So there are plenty of stones out there that I haven't seen. I do think that when you are spending that much money, whichever brand you go with, you will want a great upgrade and return policy. Both HPD and WF customer service are great, and very helpful in buying, returning and crediting my account. That is a very important factor for any vendor I deal with on such a significant purchase.
 
KEV123 said:
Thank you! Appreciate the support and answers to my questions. Also...congratulations on your new stone. You are the one that just got the D color from I think it was HPI right? If so...GORGEOUS!

Question for you... do you think there is a major difference in quality between HPI and WhiteFlash or fairly comparable? HPI may not be in our budget just quite yet but helpful to know for future! Since you have worked with both figured I'd ask for your thoughts!
Click to expand...

HPD can Craft To Order a diamond for you based on your specs. I would ask them about it. Recently, I have had a chance to compare WF and HPD stones side by side and HPD outperformed WF, thus I picked HPD. You cannot go wrong with either.
 
I think you would be better off going down in size and clarity and put your money in a branded super ideal of higher color. No one sees the VVS. They see the color. And in that size for sure they see the color. You will still have a large diamond. I had a 3.29 ct in I color and the warmth was very apparent. I have a 2.3 ct BGD signature H VVS2 and I can see the color in that. I think you would be better served by going super ideal and colorless and you will have a knock out, home run... and it will be way more captivating and mesmerizing than these 3+ ct H VVS stones you are looking at. You have a lot of options with your budget and I would suggest you explore them. You may come to find you may not feel a need to do a future upgrade. But if you want to have that in your back pocket, you should go with a vendor that has a very good policy.
 
Last edited:
I recently got a HPD/CBI 5 stone ring. The CBIs are pretty amazing. They Out perform any diamond I already own.

I’ve also worked with IDJ fir an eternity band and Yekutiel was super accommodating!
 
headlight said:
I think you would be better off going down in size and clarity and put your money in a branded super ideal of higher color. No one sees the VVS. They see the color. And in that size for sure they see the color. You will still have a large diamond. I had a 3.29 ct in I color and the warmth was very apparent. I have a 2.3 ct BGD signature H VVS2 and I can see the color in that. I think you would be better served by going super ideal and colorless and you will have a knock out, home run... and it will be way more captivating and mesmerizing than these 3+ ct H VVS stones you are looking at. You have a lot of options with your budget and I would suggest you explore them. You may come to find you may not feel a need to do a future upgrade. But if you want to have that in your back pocket, you should go with a vendor that has a very good policy.
Click to expand...

I believe a color to be very subjective. One PS member went with WF a K color and the stone was beautiful and she was very happy with it. Not everyone's cup of tea but it was hers cup of tea and that is all that matters. Even I consider going down to an I color for the sake of a size. A huge rock gets more attention than a color and if people study your ring's color, then they need to start keeping 6' distance. A lot of people are not color sensitive or color intolerant and they believe that one does not need to pay for colorless stone when G-H will do just fine. It is up to a wearer if she is ok looking at her G-H or needs her stone to be whiter. However, I agree on VVS - no different than most VS2 to the naked eye.
 
Okay, you stand to lose a HUGE amount of money if you buy one of the stones in your first post since you plan to upgrade later. To me, the only good option is to go with Whiteflash or HPD, but I will tell you that historically, WF gets in far more diamonds in the 3-6 carat range. I have WF ACA diamonds and consider them top notch as do the the CBI owners for their stones. Both vendors sell stones at the top end of the ideal cut range. The particular angles (combined with color, table size, etc.) of one diamond might appeal to someone more than another even from the same vendor. But I'd buy from whomever has the best stone now and the most likely opportunity to upgrade later.

(I see that WF has three H stones in the low 3 ct range just about the same diameter. I'd definitely ask them to line them up and see if any are at the higher end of the H range. A stone could be closer to G or closer to I color or in the mid H range.)

I don't know what your top budget is, but this is almost the same diameter as that 3.12 H and it's a G VS1 at $62k.

Diamond | 3.027 ct G VS1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4136978

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 3.027 carat G color VS1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4136978
www.whiteflash.com
 
Last edited:
ac117 said:
Haha I really meant to soften my post with some additional options for you the other day but I’m glad you got the point bc we want you to end up with an amazing stone!! I completely understand the hesitation after getting screwed over - honestly, that’s why WF/HPD are really top notch and the best if an upgrade policy is important to you bc you only need to spend $1 more to upgrade, no limits on how many times, which is really so easy. WF does always have the largest inventory though, which is helpful. BG is also a super ideal vendor but you need to upgrade at least 2 of 3 (carat, color, clarity) so that’s limiting. Victor Canera is another super ideal option but I’m not sure what the upgrade policy is.
IDJ is really great and I know Yekutiel will be able to find you a fabulous stone but I’m not sure about their upgrade policy and it might not be as easy as the above vendors so it just depends on what you want!
One more suggestion, if you’re able to, WF and others have a “try before you buy” option if you wanted to compare their stone to another and see if the super ideal/higher price tag is noticeable and worth it to you over a GIA XXX with excellent imaging.
Click to expand...

Thank you for the additional details! I will have to ask Whiteflash about the try before you buy! I think I may have just inadvertently done that unless there is another way to approach. Earlier this week, I did order a 1.77 H to compare against my current stone. I wanted to try to compare "Apples to Apples", or as close as possible, since I have never seen an ACA/super ideal in person. I wanted to compare in my home environment/non-super ideal jewelry store conditions to get a feel for ACA performance in a typical day to day setting.

If we do go IDJ route I will definitely make sure to get information on upgrade policy! I sent them an inquiry on stones earlier today.
 
LLJsmom said:
Based only on the stones I saw, I preferred CBI. I have seen 4 CBIs, and all struck me as very sparkly, lively, and they stood out in my memory, one that I saw about 7 years ago, one about 2 years ago, and two when I was choosing my recent stone. I saw a D and an E. I have one WF Expert Selection, G, have seen a large 4 carat G, another 2 carat G or F, I forget, and a F this time around when I was choosing. The WF are well cut and bright. I felt I saw more lively sparkles from the CBIs I saw, as compared to the WF stones I saw. So there are plenty of stones out there that I haven't seen. I do think that when you are spending that much money, whichever brand you go with, you will want a great upgrade and return policy. Both HPD and WF customer service are great, and very helpful in buying, returning and crediting my account. That is a very important factor for any vendor I deal with on such a significant purchase.
Click to expand...

Awesome that you have gotten to see all these stones! Glad to hear that both companies have good service and are easy with upgrades, definitely a huge piece!

I spent a few weeks working with the team at BG... they offered to recut an existing stone from virtual inventory for us but all the options we found didn't meet their recut criteria and I just felt pushed towards something in stock (limited) made me worried about service after purchase/if they would go out of their way to meet our expectations or just wanted to get inventory off their hands. Again, they had limited selection (only 2 total above 3 carats to choose from) and we were asking them to recut an already cut stone but I did feel like I was always the one following up.
 
headlight said:
I think you would be better off going down in size and clarity and put your money in a branded super ideal of higher color. No one sees the VVS. They see the color. And in that size for sure they see the color. You will still have a large diamond. I had a 3.29 ct in I color and the warmth was very apparent. I have a 2.3 ct BGD signature H VVS2 and I can see the color in that. I think you would be better served by going super ideal and colorless and you will have a knock out, home run... and it will be way more captivating and mesmerizing than these 3+ ct H VVS stones you are looking at. You have a lot of options with your budget and I would suggest you explore them. You may come to find you may not feel a need to do a future upgrade. But if you want to have that in your back pocket, you should go with a vendor that has a very good policy.
Click to expand...

Thank you for the feedback! I hope I won't notice the color in an H but I guess reinforces going with a company that allows time to return if not satisfied! Or we will just have to wait for a better color to become available!
 
daisygrl said:
I believe a color to be very subjective. One PS member went with WF a K color and the stone was beautiful and she was very happy with it. Not everyone's cup of tea but it was hers cup of tea and that is all that matters. Even I consider going down to an I color for the sake of a size. A huge rock gets more attention than a color and if people study your ring's color, then they need to start keeping 6' distance. A lot of people are not color sensitive or color intolerant and they believe that one does not need to pay for colorless stone when G-H will do just fine. It is up to a wearer if she is ok looking at her G-H or needs her stone to be whiter. However, I agree on VVS - no different than most VS2 to the naked eye.
Click to expand...

Great point on VVS - I didn't realize that to the naked eye probably wouldn't see a difference!

And so funny on the 6' comment. I feel like I am way more critical of my own stone's performance than others. My friend just got engaged and they were working with a smaller (but still sizable) budget but she had to have 3 carats. She ended up with a GIA XXX 3.0 I SI2 and it is fairly included and out of proportions which made me worried but, when I saw it in person, I thought darn that is a huge and nice stone. Had I not seen the certificate in the purchase process I wouldn't have any idea! She is thrilled with it.

I am hoping for a really good G-H :-). Or maybe I will send hubby to WF to buy it and just never tell me what it is so I can't see color that may not be there hahaha!
 
diamondseeker2006 said:
Okay, you stand to lose a HUGE amount of money if you buy one of the stones in your first post since you plan to upgrade later. To me, the only good option is to go with Whiteflash or HPD, but I will tell you that historically, WF gets in far more diamonds in the 3-6 carat range. I have WF ACA diamonds and consider them top notch as do the the CBI owners for their stones. Both vendors sell stones at the top end of the ideal cut range. The particular angles (combined with color, table size, etc.) of one diamond might appeal to someone more than another even from the same vendor. But I'd buy from whomever has the best stone now and the most likely opportunity to upgrade later.

(I see that WF has three H stones in the low 3 ct range just about the same diameter. I'd definitely ask them to line them up and see if any are at the higher end of the H range. A stone could be closer to G or closer to I color or in the mid H range.)

I don't know what your top budget is, but this is almost the same diameter as that 3.12 H and it's a G VS1 at $62k.

Diamond | 3.027 ct G VS1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4136978

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 3.027 carat G color VS1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4136978
www.whiteflash.com
Click to expand...

Great idea on having them take the photos. I would not have thought of that! it would be good if I could get an H that was closer to G in color. Thank you for this suggestion. I know my WF consultant would be happy to do this!

Thanks for sharing the G, I think it is an option. I would prefer a G...our original budget was under $50K but we could go to $60K for an amazing stone. Although, if I could save some money and get one of the H's that looks close to the G that may be a win win!

I didn't think to look at diameter of a stone. I have just been taking carat weight at face value not thinking of looking for a stone that could "face up larger".
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
GET 3 FREE HCA RESULTS JOIN THE FORUM. ASK FOR HELP
Jewelry Blog
PriceScope-Concierge-Ad
Find prime cuts.
Top