Vintage old european cut

[differentkey]

Hi, everyone! I wanted to know if the vintage ring I bought is worth the price. I have a 1.2 carat old European cut diamond, D color, VS1, a bit cloudy in the middle, no fluorescence, "good" cut, set in a platinum setting with 2 small baguets on the side. The band is very thin and looks worn even after being reshanked by the company. I also think the diamond looks foggy in the middle. Paid about 14K. I wanted something different but I might end up getting an ering.

 

[lulu_ma]

It’s hard to tell from these pics, but I’m not certain that you have an old european cut. It has the looks of poorly cut early round brilliant to me.

Do you have a cert and are you in the return process period?

 

[missy]

I’m so sorry. It isn’t well cut Can you return it? We can help you find something beautiful for the budget

 

[tyty333]

Where are you located? Please return if possible.

 

[Ionysis]

GIA doesn’t give a cut grade for OECs only rates polish and symmetry. I agree with the others, this doesn’t look like one. Do you have a close up of the facet pattern?

 

[sledge]

I have similar concerns as the others already voiced.

However, if I ignore the technical aspects, the way you framed your post makes me believe you aren’t happy and want justification to return and/or get a different ring. At the end of the day it’s your money and if you aren’t happy then you should change it, even if the stone was perfect.

 

[Ionysis]

For 14k you could get so much more bang for your buck

 

[differentkey]

Thank you all for your input! GIA cert does say old euro, but I'm returning. It's just not what I imagined. This was a reputable online antique ring dealer, but it doesn't live up to the photos. Can you recommend a good online retailer? I was looking at James Allen and Brilliant Earth but not sure what to look for.

 

[Ionysis]

Your biggest problem is you’re paying HUGE $$$$$$ for D colour and VS. OECs in high colours are really rare. Most people are unable to even distinguish the difference between the top three or four colour grades in diamonds anyway. And old cuts are much more forgiving with colour than moderns so you can go pretty low in colour without it looking “yellowish”. I’d strongly recommend looking at lower colour and clarity (whilst keeping it eye clean). If you still want an OEC you’ll be able to find a way better one.

 

[lulu_ma]

Can you list what your ideal parameters are?

Also, I am curious what depth/ table % are on the stone you are returning.

 

[oncrutchesrightnow]

Agree you could do better.

I just got something from Ivy and Rose Vintage on Etsy and the item was as described. Lots of people like Old World Diamonds — I don’t have personal experience.

Let people here know your specs and whether you want an authentic antique or are willing to get a newly cut diamond in OEC cut.

As a person who likes colorless diamonds, I agree you can go lower in color with these cuts. If you want a white look you are almost certainly fine with a G and if you want a golden antique look you can drop way down in color.

 

[sledge]

Agree with @Ionysis.

When cut right OEC’s are absolutely amazing. Love those chunky facets, tall crowns and big fire! Wish I could convince my wife but she’s a MRB girl.

Is @Rhino still doing super ideal OEC’s? I’m still catching up after a year or so stint of being away.

1.23ct I VS2 August Vintage European Cut 74591802

Diamond Details Measurements 6.65 - 6.72 x 4.44 Cut Grade Ideal Polish Ideal Symmetry Ideal Fluorescence Negligible Culet Pointed Report Click here to view this diamonds AGS Report. Table 0.502 Depth 0.664

www.distinctivegem.com

 

[Rfisher]

Thank you all for your input! GIA cert does say old euro, but I'm returning. It's just not what I imagined. This was a reputable online antique ring dealer, but it doesn't live up to the photos.

Would you post a picture from the listing you bought it from?
Something sounds weird here - maybe there’s something (once seeing the photo that drew you in to purchase it) we can point out something that might help you on your continuing online search.
As well as the great advice you’ve already gotten.

 

[tyty333]

Can you post the GIA report or the report number so we can have a look at the details of the stone?

 

[sweetpea&babycorn]

Agree with others - I am 99% sure that is not an OEC, and you way overpaid for a ring like that, so I’m glad to hear you’re returning it.

Let PS help you! Have you seen many vintage stones? There are tons of threads that discuss antique stones if you search here.

Popular vendors for antique stones include Old World Diamonds, Jewels by Grace, and there are tons of bling slingers on IG out there with some beautiful stones (Jewels by Whitney, the Bijoux Box, Rita on the Rocks, among others). Then there are the other bigger jewelers like Greenwich St, SingleStone, EraGem, Langs, Victor Barbone, and Erstwhile, among many many other vendors

 

[differentkey]

Here are some photos. First 3 are from the company, fourth is on my hand. I don't want to badmouth the place where I got it, I think I just wasn't sold on this cut after all.

 

[nala]

Could it be these are just Really bad and blurry pics?

 

[Inked]

I'm glad you returned it. It's odd because in your very last picture it doesnt look OEC to me at all.

Also, you mentioned D color VS1 in your first post, but that GIA they gave you says E color VS2. I'm glad you returned it, i LOVE OECs, and you can do sooo much better for your budget! Usually the old cuts are lower in color, though, are you OK with like H/I/J color or did you want D ?

You mentioned you werent sold on the cut at all, but if you think you like old cuts, that particular one wasn't a good example!

 

[Rfisher]

If it’s from the vendor I think it is
I have no proof nor experience with them
But their listing photos often look tweaked, to me. Like the facet patterns seem artificially sharpened or something. I dunno.
Like if I see a Tiffany lucida band on their site - the diamonds themselves kinda look computer generated.

Maybe the pavilion needed a hell of a cleaning when you took your picture….
But my guess is the vendor listing photo is misleading as well.