What do you think of this I1 stone?

[Alexiszoe]

it looks huge and very very yummy. A good I1 is hard to come by, so if you like it (and i assume the vendor has a great return policy too), grab it!

 

[Phoenix]

Thanks very much to everyone who has responded. It's a tough decision. Although the price is quite attractive, it's still a fair chunk of money, so I need to make sure that I'd really LOVE it. I've asked Dave Atlas to look over the stone for me. At the end of the day though, I know it'll still be *my* decision, but appreciate all the help I can get, to help me along that decision.

 

[Phoenix]

Date: 4/2/2009 9:35:59 AM
Author: strmrdr
would likely look nice from a distance not so nice up close both from a cut and clarity standpoint.
The so-so optical symmetry and added dark zones would become apparent up close.
I would be more comfortable with it in a pendant but the trade off is your decision.
Interesting stone that the pavilion mains are in the right place but the lower girdles are a bit goofy.

Thanks for your reply, Karl. I appreciate your taking the time to look at this and provide your input, since I (along with many many PS''ers, I am sure) highly appreciate yr opinions and viewpoints.

The stone would be set in a ring, not a pendant (am not much of a pendant or necklace kind of gal

).

Could you pls explain what you mean in the area I''ve hightlighted? Thank you.

 

[Phoenix]

Date: 4/2/2009 9:45:05 AM
Author: strmrdr
Brightness should be close to an ideal cut assuming the clouds don''t hurt it to bad, fire will be down some.
Basic combo comes out Plat. AGS1 potential given the IS AGS2 is more likely.

The HCA says 1.9, and it''ll be in the TIC range. I don''t understand!

. Sorry to be dense. Could you pls help understand this some more?

I fully expected that the stone wouldn''t be an AGS 0, given it''s not ideal cut, but AGS2 doesn''t sound too good! Do you think Dave would be able to confirm this once he''s got the stone in his hands? (I''ll email and ask him tonight).

Thanks again, Karl.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 4/3/2009 4:11:43 AM
Author: Phoenix

Date: 4/2/2009 9:45:05 AM
Author: strmrdr
Brightness should be close to an ideal cut assuming the clouds don''t hurt it to bad, fire will be down some.
Basic combo comes out Plat. AGS1 potential given the IS AGS2 is more likely.

The HCA says 1.9, and it''ll be in the TIC range. I don''t understand!

. Sorry to be dense. Could you pls help understand this some more?

I fully expected that the stone wouldn''t be an AGS 0, given it''s not ideal cut, but AGS2 doesn''t sound too good! Do you think Dave would be able to confirm this once he''s got the stone in his hands? (I''ll email and ask him tonight).

Thanks again, Karl.

P, thats great that Dave will be evaluating it for you, he will give you the straight scoop as to if this diamond might work for you or not, a trusted expert with the diamond in hand is the best way.

 

[Phoenix]

Date: 4/3/2009 4:14:29 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 4/3/2009 4:11:43 AM
Author: Phoenix

Date: 4/2/2009 9:45:05 AM
Author: strmrdr
Brightness should be close to an ideal cut assuming the clouds don't hurt it to bad, fire will be down some.
Basic combo comes out Plat. AGS1 potential given the IS AGS2 is more likely.

The HCA says 1.9, and it'll be in the TIC range. I don't understand!

. Sorry to be dense. Could you pls help understand this some more?

I fully expected that the stone wouldn't be an AGS 0, given it's not ideal cut, but AGS2 doesn't sound too good! Do you think Dave would be able to confirm this once he's got the stone in his hands? (I'll email and ask him tonight).

Thanks again, Karl.

P, thats great that Dave will be evaluating it for you, he will give you the straight scoop as to if this diamond might work for you or not, a trusted expert with the diamond in hand is the best way.

Good morning, Lorelei!

Yes, I feel good about asking Dave to look at the stone for me.

Do you think I should ask him to use both the DiamCalm and the ImaGem (haven't really finished reading the infor on PS as well as his website - there's just so much infor to absorb!)

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 4/3/2009 4:11:43 AM
Author: Phoenix

Date: 4/2/2009 9:45:05 AM

Author: strmrdr

Brightness should be close to an ideal cut assuming the clouds don''t hurt it to bad, fire will be down some.

Basic combo comes out Plat. AGS1 potential given the IS AGS2 is more likely.

The HCA says 1.9, and it''ll be in the TIC range. I don''t understand!

. Sorry to be dense. Could you pls help understand this some more?


I fully expected that the stone wouldn''t be an AGS 0, given it''s not ideal cut, but AGS2 doesn''t sound too good! Do you think Dave would be able to confirm this once he''s got the stone in his hands? (I''ll email and ask him tonight).


Thanks again, Karl.

large table+ shallow crown = less fire.
I ran the base combo thru DC to confirm it.
I don''t know if Dave has a sarin and the AGS software to get the AGS grade but he has other tools and his eyes.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 4/3/2009 4:18:22 AM
Author: Phoenix

Date: 4/3/2009 4:14:29 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 4/3/2009 4:11:43 AM
Author: Phoenix

Date: 4/2/2009 9:45:05 AM
Author: strmrdr
Brightness should be close to an ideal cut assuming the clouds don''t hurt it to bad, fire will be down some.
Basic combo comes out Plat. AGS1 potential given the IS AGS2 is more likely.

The HCA says 1.9, and it''ll be in the TIC range. I don''t understand!

. Sorry to be dense. Could you pls help understand this some more?

I fully expected that the stone wouldn''t be an AGS 0, given it''s not ideal cut, but AGS2 doesn''t sound too good! Do you think Dave would be able to confirm this once he''s got the stone in his hands? (I''ll email and ask him tonight).

Thanks again, Karl.

P, thats great that Dave will be evaluating it for you, he will give you the straight scoop as to if this diamond might work for you or not, a trusted expert with the diamond in hand is the best way.

Good morning, Lorelei!

Yes, I feel good about asking Dave to look at the stone for me.

Do you think I should ask him to use both the DiamCalm and the ImaGem (haven''t really finished reading the infor on PS about these - there''s just so much infor to absorb!)

Good morning P dear!

Dave will give you the details and let you know if it is worth pursuing, excellent way to proceed! As to the fire, it is a shallower diamond and it often follows the fire is down some as Strm mentions but again Dave will let you know how it rates in that aspect. As to the cut, we know it isn''t a super duper AGS0 cut but it is what we call a fine make and for the size it would be very difficult to find one this big which is of AGS0 cut quality anyway - especially for the price and if this I1 is eyeclean.

So to take stock

Pros
It has the size you love
Good quality cut
Price is right
I1 said to be eyeclean, very rare in this size
Good colour

Cons
Shallower cut, could be a very bright and brilliant diamond, fire could be down some as Strm says
Clarity - eyesights vary - could be eyeclean but no way to tell if it is eyeclean to YOU until you see it

As to what to get Dave to use, an ASET image would be very useful if he could arrange it. See what he suggests, I would love to see what he uses to evaluate this baby!

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 4/3/2009 4:07:08 AM
Author: Phoenix

Date: 4/2/2009 9:35:59 AM

Author: strmrdr

would likely look nice from a distance not so nice up close both from a cut and clarity standpoint.

The so-so optical symmetry and added dark zones would become apparent up close.

I would be more comfortable with it in a pendant but the trade off is your decision.

Interesting stone that the pavilion mains are in the right place but the lower girdles are a bit goofy.

Thanks for your reply, Karl. I appreciate your taking the time to look at this and provide your input, since I (along with many many PS''ers, I am sure) highly appreciate yr opinions and viewpoints.


The stone would be set in a ring, not a pendant (am not much of a pendant or necklace kind of gal

).


Could you pls explain what you mean in the area I''ve hightlighted? Thank you.

If everything was absolutely perfect(impossible to achieve but the best cuts get close) the IS would look like this.
The IS for your stone most of the deviation is between the arrows over the lower girdles compared to the perfect image.
Hope that helps, im off to bed have to be up in 5 hours.

 

[Phoenix]

Date: 4/3/2009 4:33:23 AM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 4/3/2009 4:07:08 AM
Author: Phoenix

Date: 4/2/2009 9:35:59 AM

Author: strmrdr

would likely look nice from a distance not so nice up close both from a cut and clarity standpoint.

The so-so optical symmetry and added dark zones would become apparent up close.

I would be more comfortable with it in a pendant but the trade off is your decision.

Interesting stone that the pavilion mains are in the right place but the lower girdles are a bit goofy.

Thanks for your reply, Karl. I appreciate your taking the time to look at this and provide your input, since I (along with many many PS''ers, I am sure) highly appreciate yr opinions and viewpoints.


The stone would be set in a ring, not a pendant (am not much of a pendant or necklace kind of gal

).


Could you pls explain what you mean in the area I''ve hightlighted? Thank you.

If everything was absolutely perfect(impossible to achieve but the best cuts get close) the IS would look like this.
The IS for your stone most of the deviation is between the arrows over the lower girdles compared to the perfect image.
Hope that helps, im off to bed have to be up in 5 hours.

Thank you sooo much, Karl.

Good night. Pleasant dreams.

 

[Phoenix]

Date: 4/3/2009 4:27:17 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 4/3/2009 4:18:22 AM
Author: Phoenix

Date: 4/3/2009 4:14:29 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 4/3/2009 4:11:43 AM
Author: Phoenix

Date: 4/2/2009 9:45:05 AM
Author: strmrdr
Brightness should be close to an ideal cut assuming the clouds don''t hurt it to bad, fire will be down some.
Basic combo comes out Plat. AGS1 potential given the IS AGS2 is more likely.

The HCA says 1.9, and it''ll be in the TIC range. I don''t understand!

. Sorry to be dense. Could you pls help understand this some more?

I fully expected that the stone wouldn''t be an AGS 0, given it''s not ideal cut, but AGS2 doesn''t sound too good! Do you think Dave would be able to confirm this once he''s got the stone in his hands? (I''ll email and ask him tonight).

Thanks again, Karl.

P, thats great that Dave will be evaluating it for you, he will give you the straight scoop as to if this diamond might work for you or not, a trusted expert with the diamond in hand is the best way.

Good morning, Lorelei!

Yes, I feel good about asking Dave to look at the stone for me.

Do you think I should ask him to use both the DiamCalm and the ImaGem (haven''t really finished reading the infor on PS about these - there''s just so much infor to absorb!)

Good morning P dear!

Dave will give you the details and let you know if it is worth pursuing, excellent way to proceed! As to the fire, it is a shallower diamond and it often follows the fire is down some as Strm mentions but again Dave will let you know how it rates in that aspect. As to the cut, we know it isn''t a super duper AGS0 cut but it is what we call a fine make and for the size it would be very difficult to find one this big which is of AGS0 cut quality anyway - especially for the price and if this I1 is eyeclean.

So to take stock

Pros
It has the size you love
Good quality cut
Price is right
I1 said to be eyeclean, very rare in this size
Good colour

Cons
Shallower cut, could be a very bright and brilliant diamond, fire could be down some as Strm says
Clarity - eyesights vary - could be eyeclean but no way to tell if it is eyeclean to YOU until you see it

As to what to get Dave to use, an ASET image would be very useful if he could arrange it. See what he suggests, I would love to see what he uses to evaluate this baby!

Thank you sooo much, too, Lorelei dear.

It''s very helpful to list out the pros and cons like that.

What I''ve also asked Jim to do is exactly that. It''ll have to be *my* eyes and I''ll have to LOVE it. If I don''t, then I''d like to have the option to return it.

I''m quite excited to see what Dave makes of this baby too!

 

[Lorelei]

I thought that might help, I was torn between 2 cars a few months ago and writing it out really helped me! I am excited too to hear what Dave has to say as I really trust his opinion! I so hope it works out and you can get it!! As to the return policy I am sure the vendor won''t have a problem with that, just clarify to make sure if you send for it, then you have all your bases covered.

 

[Ellen]

Keep us posted!

How would you set it, do you know?

 

[Phoenix]

Date: 4/3/2009 7:55:43 AM
Author: Ellen
Keep us posted!

How would you set it, do you know?

Well, I''ve spoken to Dave and once the diamond is in his hands on Monday, he''ll examine it straight away

.

I''m almost too scared to think about setting, just in case I get too attached to the stone!

Having said that, it''s always fun to think about things like this. I was considering something like a Lynn B''s, but perhaps just a simple Tiffany-style one. I had my heart set on this LM for such a long time, but might save that for my 3 carater instead.

http://www.artofplatinum.com/4images/details.php?image_id=85

What do you think? Any suggestion?

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 4/4/2009 1:43:32 AM
Author: Phoenix

Date: 4/3/2009 7:55:43 AM
Author: Ellen
Keep us posted!

How would you set it, do you know?

Well, I''ve spoken to Dave and once the diamond is in his hands on Monday, he''ll examine it straight away

.

I''m almost too scared to think about setting, just in case I get too attached to the stone!

Having said that, it''s always fun to think about things like this. I was considering something like a Lynn B''s, but perhaps just a simple Tiffany-style one. I had my heart set on this LM for such a long time, but might save that for my 3 carater instead.

http://www.artofplatinum.com/4images/details.php?image_id=85

What do you think? Any suggestion?

yes, find a matching stone and make it into a pair of earings.

 

[Phoenix]

Date: 4/4/2009 1:55:23 AM
Author: Dancing Fire

Date: 4/4/2009 1:43:32 AM
Author: Phoenix

Date: 4/3/2009 7:55:43 AM
Author: Ellen
Keep us posted!

How would you set it, do you know?

Well, I''ve spoken to Dave and once the diamond is in his hands on Monday, he''ll examine it straight away

.

I''m almost too scared to think about setting, just in case I get too attached to the stone!

Having said that, it''s always fun to think about things like this. I was considering something like a Lynn B''s, but perhaps just a simple Tiffany-style one. I had my heart set on this LM for such a long time, but might save that for my 3 carater instead.

http://www.artofplatinum.com/4images/details.php?image_id=85

What do you think? Any suggestion?

yes, find a matching stone and make it into a pair of earings.

DF, you''re always such a hoot!

 

[kcoursolle]

It looks like I''m slow to join in the fun, but it looks like a great value for the size/money stone. That size looks *awesome* and I bet it is an overall very pretty stone more sparkly than most.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 4/4/2009 1:43:32 AM
Author: Phoenix

Date: 4/3/2009 7:55:43 AM
Author: Ellen
Keep us posted!

How would you set it, do you know?

Well, I''ve spoken to Dave and once the diamond is in his hands on Monday, he''ll examine it straight away

.

I''m almost too scared to think about setting, just in case I get too attached to the stone!

Having said that, it''s always fun to think about things like this. I was considering something like a Lynn B''s, but perhaps just a simple Tiffany-style one. I had my heart set on this LM for such a long time, but might save that for my 3 carater instead.

http://www.artofplatinum.com/4images/details.php?image_id=85

What do you think? Any suggestion?

That is a gorgeous Leon setting, but you could set that baby anyway and it will look incredible!!!

 

[Ellen]

Date: 4/4/2009 1:43:32 AM
Author: Phoenix

Date: 4/3/2009 7:55:43 AM
Author: Ellen
Keep us posted!

How would you set it, do you know?

Well, I''ve spoken to Dave and once the diamond is in his hands on Monday, he''ll examine it straight away

.

I''m almost too scared to think about setting, just in case I get too attached to the stone!

Having said that, it''s always fun to think about things like this. I was considering something like a Lynn B''s, but perhaps just a simple Tiffany-style one. I had my heart set on this LM for such a long time, but might save that for my 3 carater instead.

http://www.artofplatinum.com/4images/details.php?image_id=85

What do you think? Any suggestion?

Ooooh, I can''t wait to hear what he says!!

As for the setting you linked, I think it''s very nice. That stone is going to be so commanding though, I don''t really know if it needs anything, and I wonder if anything else might get lost, yanno? If it were me I''d set it in something like this. I just think a simple setting is all you need (says the minimalist). But, I know that may be boring to you, and as Lorelei said, it will be gorgeous no matter how you set it.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 4/4/2009 7:27:17 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 4/4/2009 1:43:32 AM
Author: Phoenix

Date: 4/3/2009 7:55:43 AM
Author: Ellen
Keep us posted!

How would you set it, do you know?

Well, I''ve spoken to Dave and once the diamond is in his hands on Monday, he''ll examine it straight away

.

I''m almost too scared to think about setting, just in case I get too attached to the stone!

Having said that, it''s always fun to think about things like this. I was considering something like a Lynn B''s, but perhaps just a simple Tiffany-style one. I had my heart set on this LM for such a long time, but might save that for my 3 carater instead.

http://www.artofplatinum.com/4images/details.php?image_id=85

What do you think? Any suggestion?

Ooooh, I can''t wait to hear what he says!!

As for the setting you linked, I think it''s very nice. That stone is going to be so commanding though, I don''t really know if it needs anything, and I wonder if anything else might get lost, yanno? If it were me I''d set it in something likethis. I just think a simple setting is all you need (says the minimalist). But, I know that may be boring to you, and as Lorelei said, it will be gorgeous no matter how you set it.

Oh I love this, a diamond that size would have that lovely scoopy champagne glass curve on the head - YUM!!!!!

 

[Ellen]

Date: 4/4/2009 7:48:23 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 4/4/2009 7:27:17 AM
Author: Ellen

Ooooh, I can''t wait to hear what he says!!

As for the setting you linked, I think it''s very nice. That stone is going to be so commanding though, I don''t really know if it needs anything, and I wonder if anything else might get lost, yanno? If it were me I''d set it in something likethis. I just think a simple setting is all you need (says the minimalist). But, I know that may be boring to you, and as Lorelei said, it will be gorgeous no matter how you set it.

Oh I love this, a diamond that size would have that lovely scoopy champagne glass curve on the head - YUM!!!!!

I know. *swoon*

 

[canuk-gal]

Date: 4/4/2009 7:57:51 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 4/4/2009 7:48:23 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 4/4/2009 7:27:17 AM
Author: Ellen

Ooooh, I can''t wait to hear what he says!!

As for the setting you linked, I think it''s very nice. That stone is going to be so commanding though, I don''t really know if it needs anything, and I wonder if anything else might get lost, yanno? If it were me I''d set it in something likethis. I just think a simple setting is all you need (says the minimalist). But, I know that may be boring to you, and as Lorelei said, it will be gorgeous no matter how you set it.

Oh I love this, a diamond that size would have that lovely scoopy champagne glass curve on the head - YUM!!!!!

I know. *swoon*

HI:

Double swoon. The simplier the better--it don''t need no fussin''!!

cheers--Sharon

 

[Ellen]

Date: 4/4/2009 9:22:10 AM
Author: canuk-gal
HI:

Double swoon. The simplier the better--it don't need no fussin'!!

cheers--Sharon

Well put!



p.s. Sharon, Christmas was a few months ago. I'm jus sayin.....

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 4/4/2009 7:57:51 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 4/4/2009 7:48:23 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 4/4/2009 7:27:17 AM
Author: Ellen

Ooooh, I can''t wait to hear what he says!!

As for the setting you linked, I think it''s very nice. That stone is going to be so commanding though, I don''t really know if it needs anything, and I wonder if anything else might get lost, yanno? If it were me I''d set it in something likethis. I just think a simple setting is all you need (says the minimalist). But, I know that may be boring to you, and as Lorelei said, it will be gorgeous no matter how you set it.

Oh I love this, a diamond that size would have that lovely scoopy champagne glass curve on the head - YUM!!!!!

I know. *swoon*

I can just see it.....

Thats my choice!!!

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 4/4/2009 9:25:32 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 4/4/2009 9:22:10 AM
Author: canuk-gal
HI:

Double swoon. The simplier the better--it don''t need no fussin''!!

cheers--Sharon

Well put!



p.s. Sharon, Christmas was a few months ago. I''m jus sayin.....

 

[canuk-gal]

Date: 4/4/2009 9:30:49 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 4/4/2009 9:25:32 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 4/4/2009 9:22:10 AM
Author: canuk-gal
HI:

Double swoon. The simplier the better--it don''t need no fussin''!!

cheers--Sharon

Well put!



p.s. Sharon, Christmas was a few months ago. I''m jus sayin.....

HI:

I know! I was thinkin the same thing--but cannot find something cool/good! Gotta run to my seminar--sorry for the hjack Phoenix!

cheers--Sharon

cheers--Sharon

 

[sarah95]

Any updates on the diamond?? I''m interested to know what Dave had to say about this beauty.

 

[:)]

 

[Phoenix]

Thanks, everyone, for your input.

Well, I have tiny updates:

1) the stone has not gone to Dave yet, though I have been talking to both Dave and the vendor; and
2) I have a quotation from LM for the setting in the linky i posted, for a whopping $6,880! Well, that's that then!

So, I think I'm going to for a simpler setting for this stone, something like a Tiffany-style knife edge. Lorelei, Ellen and Canuk-gal, I think you're right, something this big ain't gonna need much adornment!

. It's gonna shine all on its own!

. In fact, I may not have it reset into any LM for the time being, due to the prohibitive costing as well as the longer time it'd take.

Later, I may reset my 3 carater to a more elaborate setting, something that would make that baby pop and look bigger. I do like them big!

.

Any suggestion for either of the stones? I may go for a LM later, but not right now.

Thanks.

 

[kcoursolle]

That''s a bummer about the big quote. I think you really don''t need too much going on with this ring though, I have to agree with the others.

Here are some settings I think are fab that would probably be reasonable:
http://www.artofplatinum.com/4images/details.php?image_id=50

I think this one would look great with a slight flare towards the diamond:
http://www.artofplatinum.com/4images/details.php?image_id=79

http://www.artofplatinum.com/4images/details.php?image_id=180