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These two stones look incredible. What about the inclusions near the girdle on #1? Set in this ring. I think these stones are wonderful but I''m unsure about the 2x upgrade policy(even though I''ll probably never upgrade). I know WF specializes in cut and quality, would they possibly have something similar or better for the price?
 
Date: 1/23/2009 3:22:10 PM
Author:3cd4her
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#2

These two stones look incredible. What about the inclusions near the girdle on #1? Set in this ring. I think these stones are wonderful but I'm unsure about the 2x upgrade policy(even though I'll probably never upgrade). I know WF specializes in cut and quality, would they possibly have something similar or better for the price?
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I will get the thread moved into Rocky Talk for you.

I definitely prefer the first diamond and would like to see an Idealscope image for the second diamond looking at the picture and proportions, it is an older AGS0 and appears to be a steep deep with the angles. Ask JA if the SI1 clarity is eyeclean to your standards and they can advise on the inclusions which probably aren't an issue.
 
How do you tell an older cert? Also, should I be of concern about that inclusion on the girdle for #1?
 
The cut on the 2.09 is better than the 2.17

You can talk to JA about the inclusion, or you can have the stone sent to an appraiser who will give you his/her expert opinion.

Older reports do not have "performance based" on them; they look different.
 
Both stones are beautiful and ideally cut, but #2 seems to have more life and color than #1. Also, it faces up just a teeny bit larger than #1. Just a smidge. But that''s my opinion.

If you are concerned about inclusions in the SI1, and if it is eye-clean to your standards, definitely have JA check both stones for you. The setting is simple and elegant, and either stone would look lovely in it.
 
#2 looks too steep and deep for my preferences. I would ask for an idealscop of #1, and talk to Jim Schultz about the inclusions and how eye clean it is. (Ask him to define his definition of eye-clean so that it is the same as yours or you know what the differences are). I''d also ask about the upgrade policy. I think they have one -- they did when I bought my studs from him a few years ago.

Good luck -- it could be a beautiful stone!
 
Thanks for your help everyone! Any other recommendations on a few. I'm curious about an I color.
 
I''m more into the price range of the 3rd one ($18k). I was curious what I could get for around the same qualities of the two from JA but in an I color to bring down the price. Those look amazing though. Did you use the pricscope search tool?
 
Date: 1/26/2009 3:39:58 AM
Author: 3cd4her
I'm more into the price range of the 3rd one ($18k). I was curious what I could get for around the same qualities of the two from JA but in an I color to bring down the price. Those look amazing though. Did you use the pricscope search tool?
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I used the search by cut quality option with the PS search tool yes.

I found this diamond too, as with all SI clarities, check it is eyeclean to your standards and that the very thin part of the girdle isn't a potential durability issue ( I doubt it with a hand picked WF diamond, but best to check). $18,593 with discount bank wire price on the search tool.

http://www.whiteflash.com/round_ideal_cut/Round-Ideal-Cut-cut-diamond-1204640.htm#
 
I''d go with the 2.09 as well. The thing to be careful about is when the stone is larger (2+ carats for example) it will be easier to spot the inclusions with the unaided eye. Make sure it is eye clean to your standards. If not, I''d go with a smaller stone with better clarity.
 
Most of the stones that were recommended and that I''ve found and like look to be in house stones and I think I am going to pursue them.

However, what about stones that are not in house? I''m having difficulty sticking with a vendor with several in house stones I like vs. just sticking with a vendor who will find the right stone for me. I would love to just pick a vendor to help me find my perfect diamond, but I find that I want to see all of the pictures, images, scopes, and then pick one of several stones out. I like JA who seems to have some good in house stones for me, but I think I like a few nuances of the policies of WF and GOG better?
 
Date: 1/27/2009 1:31:59 AM
Author: 3cd4her
Most of the stones that were recommended and that I''ve found and like look to be in house stones and I think I am going to pursue them.

However, what about stones that are not in house? I''m having difficulty sticking with a vendor with several in house stones I like vs. just sticking with a vendor who will find the right stone for me. I would love to just pick a vendor to help me find my perfect diamond, but I find that I want to see all of the pictures, images, scopes, and then pick one of several stones out. I like JA who seems to have some good in house stones for me, but I think I like a few nuances of the policies of WF and GOG better?
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That is a personal decision, as to non in house diamonds, companies such as WF can call a diamond in and do the evaluation so you can choose that way, but there may be shipping fees involved - check in each case.
 
Thank you all so much for your help! I can't say that enough. I'm getting close to actually making a purchase....I think. I like the following three stones in order of preference. There's no idealscope for #2 and it is a 2.4hca, but it looks really great. Also #3 looks a little iffy and I'm sure GOG can get better but I like the spread of it. Has my research prevailed?

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4550/
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-SI1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1180876.asp?b=16&a=12&c=77&cid=131
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/5328/
 
Date: 1/30/2009 12:34:27 AM
Author: 3cd4her
Thank you all so much for your help! I can't say that enough. I'm getting close to actually making a purchase....I think. I like the following three stones in order of preference. There's no idealscope for #2 and it is a 2.4hca, but it looks really great. Also #3 looks a little iffy and I'm sure GOG can get better but I like the spread of it. Has my research prevailed?

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4550/
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-SI1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1180876.asp?b=16&a=12&c=77&cid=131
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/5328/
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The second JA diamond looks promising, ask if they can give you an Idealscope image for it. The two GOG links don't seem to be working but I will try again....

Ok I got them to work, out of the two I prefer the first GOG diamond. Even though the other diamond is an AGS0 and is still going to be a lovely diamond, you can see from the images it isn't quite as fine as the other.
 
Strange about those links. Not sure what happened, but hopefully these work.

gog #1
gog #3
 
Date: 1/30/2009 4:14:09 AM
Author: 3cd4her
Strange about those links. Not sure what happened, but hopefully these work.

gog #1
gog #3
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Yep those are good, I think what happened, there was a backslash on the end of the links, I removed it then they worked.
 
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