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Will all diamond color grades show warmth in a warm light setting??

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I have been loving my new ACA 0.718 I SI solitaire and can not get over how gorgeous it is in every light setting. I have recently noticed though that when I am in my bedroom which is in desperate need of a wall paint update it looks very warm. The walls are a very orangey cream colour, the doors are pretty much light orange and the down lights are warm "daylight" ones. I still love how it looks but it got me wondering whether this effect would also happen with a higher grade stone? My goal is to someday upgrade my ring to a 1.2 - 1.3 (thats the dream at least!) and I am wondering if I should consider a higher color if and when that happens.

I also went into my daughter's room the other night, she had a hot pink bed cover which lit up the whole room and my diamond looked light pink!!! Never seen a diamond that acts like this, its pretty amazing, I think I also notice it reflects the color of tops and I'm thinking of getting my self a hot pink sweater and seeing if I can pretend its a pink diamond, I'm slowly becoming a crazy person haha!

I guess my question is how much of the warmth that I am seeing is likely due to the environment and how much is due to the I colour? Would say an F diamond also show warmth in a warm environment ?
 
That definitely sounds environmental. I know mine can pick up the color from my phone case (when taking a pic), walls, clothing, etc… Someone with more knowledge can explain the why to it.
 
That definitely sounds environmental. I know mine can pick up the color from my phone case (when taking a pic), walls, clothing, etc… Someone with more knowledge can explain the why to it.

Thank you! It's funny, I feel like the idea of a diamond showing any yellow is so often seen as a bad thing so I think part of me freaked out in the more yellow/orange room, but yet in the pink room I thought WOW THATS AMAZING!!!
 
Thank you! It's funny, I feel like the idea of a diamond showing any yellow is so often seen as a bad thing so I think part of me freaked out in the more yellow/orange room, but yet in the pink room I thought WOW THATS AMAZING!!!

Oh, so many here (myself included) have warmer diamonds that have an ivory, or yellow, or even brownish tint and love them. So having some color isn’t a bad thing. Really, it’s a true case of “beauty is in the eye of the beholder”. :kiss2:

But now that you know your diamond picks up colors, have fun playing with it in different conditions and environments. :dance:
 
Oh, so many here (myself included) have warmer diamonds that have an ivory, or yellow, or even brownish tint and love them. So having some color isn’t a bad thing. Really, it’s a true case of “beauty is in the eye of the beholder”. :kiss2:

But now that you know your diamond picks up colors, have fun playing with it in different conditions and environments. :dance:

Yes I agree they are all gorgeous in their own way. I remember a post a while back of someone here who had a lab K diamond with a pink tint, they set it in rose gold, so gorgeous!!

I really need to learn how to take better photos though, I can never quite capture it properly.
 
A diamond and its facets act just like a mirror - it reflects back the color of its environment. This can be from lighting, room color, clothing color, etc. Glad you are enjoying yours in all the colors it picks up!
 
A diamond and its facets act just like a mirror - it reflects back the color of its environment. This can be from lighting, room color, clothing color, etc. Glad you are enjoying yours in all the colors it picks up!

Very interesting thank you! I think because this is the first high quality diamond I have owned I am finding it so intersting to see how it behaves. Even my hubby who has never really cared for diamonds is really impressed with how insanely beautiful it is.
 
Very interesting thank you! I think because this is the first high quality diamond I have owned I am finding it so intersting to see how it behaves. Even my hubby who has never really cared for diamonds is really impressed with how insanely beautiful it is.

An ACA is truly a sight to behold! You will always be mesmerized by its flashes and glints of sparkle. Enjoy yours!
 
Yes I agree they are all gorgeous in their own way. I remember a post a while back of someone here who had a lab K diamond with a pink tint, they set it in rose gold, so gorgeous!!

I really need to learn how to take better photos though, I can never quite capture it properly.

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Here’s a decent example of picking up colors. The OEC on the left is H color and the OEC on the right is M color. They are both picking up the bright colors from the environment. Such a cool effect!
 
If you live in an area where autumn colors come out in full force, walk through some heavy woods...the shimmering of greens and oranges and browns that your diamond will display is a pretty cool sight.
 
A well cut diamond is a tiny system of mirrors that constantly scans the environment for light, both direct from the source and from light reflected off objects in the environment, and return that light to the eye of the observer. It also refracts some of that light resulting in optical effects such as fire.

This is why cut quality has the greatest impact of the 4 Cs on diamond beauty.
 
So the bigger stone is my gia E and the smaller is my sister’s ACA I. Out in nature. She is wearing a white jacket and I am wearing a lilac. E5D041B4-C1A3-42F6-A9C8-01F0AFAF22DB.jpeg
 

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Here’s a decent example of picking up colors. The OEC on the left is H color and the OEC on the right is M color. They are both picking up the bright colors from the environment. Such a cool effect!

So goergeous!!!

If you live in an area where autumn colors come out in full force, walk through some heavy woods...the shimmering of greens and oranges and browns that your diamond will display is a pretty cool sight.

Great idea!!

A well cut diamond is a tiny system of mirrors that constantly scans the environment for light, both direct from the source and from light reflected off objects in the environment, and return that light to the eye of the observer. It also refracts some of that light resulting in optical effects such as fire.

This is why cut quality has the greatest impact of the 4 Cs on diamond beauty.

I am also stunned at how sparkly the very edges of the diamond are. It shoots of so many rainbows right from the very edge. I wish I could get some good photos, never seen something like this before.

So the bigger stone is my gia E and the smaller is my sister’s ACA I. Out in nature. She is wearing a white jacket and I am wearing a lilac. E5D041B4-C1A3-42F6-A9C8-01F0AFAF22DB.jpeg

WOOOW boths are just stunning!!!
 
My kitchen has fifteen recessed spotlights in the ceiling. The multiple lights make for incredible viewing of diamonds. This happened during a remodel of the kitchen more than thirty years ago, and viewing diamonds was not the reason for the multiple spotlights, they were the suggestion of the builder for having great lighting in every part of the kitchen.

Heck, when we remodeled the kitchen, many of us jewelers knew we loved the better cut diamonds, but we did not have the incredible tools and education that we have now to allow us to know the whys of the fact that we loved them. There were incredible advances in knowledge about diamond cutting in the early 2000's and on Pricescope we had two or three years of intense "Cut Wars" that were incredibly exciting to those of us who are cut lovers.

Oops, rambling again...

One day I was thinking how much fun it would be to capture some photos under this lighting. I wanted to see how much of the dazzling sparkle I could capture with my cameras.

What I captured were D, E, and F colored super ideal cut diamonds that looked like K,L,M colored diamonds. They were very sparkly, and strongly yellowish.

What I found interesting, was that when I looked at them with my eyes, I did not really notice the yellowish color, since my eyes were accustomed to the warm lights.

Once I took a photo and saw the yellow looking D colored diamond, it became very visible to me with the eye too, because I was looking for it. I went on Amazon and ordered some cold white lights, but over the years they have been mostly replaced with the warmer lights we can buy at the supermarket. My wife likes the warmer lights better for things other than looking at diamonds, but I have to tell you, diamonds look incredible in my kitchen!
 
My kitchen has fifteen recessed spotlights in the ceiling. The multiple lights make for incredible viewing of diamonds. This happened during a remodel of the kitchen more than thirty years ago, and viewing diamonds was not the reason for the multiple spotlights, they were the suggestion of the builder for having great lighting in every part of the kitchen.

Heck, when we remodeled the kitchen, many of us jewelers knew we loved the better cut diamonds, but we did not have the incredible tools and education that we have now to allow us to know the whys of the fact that we loved them. There were incredible advances in knowledge about diamond cutting in the early 2000's and on Pricescope we had two or three years of intense "Cut Wars" that were incredibly exciting to those of us who are cut lovers.

Oops, rambling again...

One day I was thinking how much fun it would be to capture some photos under this lighting. I wanted to see how much of the dazzling sparkle I could capture with my cameras.

What I captured were D, E, and F colored super ideal cut diamonds that looked like K,L,M colored diamonds. They were very sparkly, and strongly yellowish.

What I found interesting, was that when I looked at them with my eyes, I did not really notice the yellowish color, since my eyes were accustomed to the warm lights.

Once I took a photo and saw the yellow looking D colored diamond, it became very visible to me with the eye too, because I was looking for it. I went on Amazon and ordered some cold white lights, but over the years they have been mostly replaced with the warmer lights we can buy at the supermarket. My wife likes the warmer lights better for things other than looking at diamonds, but I have to tell you, diamonds look incredible in my kitchen!

Thanks so much Wink, you have confirmed exactly what my eyes have been seeing as I move from room to room. And I completely agree that once I notice a certain tone in the diamond my eye quickly sees it again when I am in the same setting. It's been so fun, but I think my family think I've gone mad with how much I stare at my ring... Oh wel!!
 
Staring often and long is a sign that your jeweler did his job! Considering the origin of your diamond, I am far from surprised. ;-)
 
I am also stunned at how sparkly the very edges of the diamond are. It shoots of so many rainbows right from the very edge. I wish I could get some good photos, never seen something like this before.
This is one of the effects I mentioned of refraction. I've seen it referred to as "bloom". Part of the sparkle appears to emanate from an area outside the diamond itself. Another one of the magical things about diamonds!

You will notice it in many of the photos posted here. Many pricescopers have captured incredible light effects of their diamonds. And, of course, sharing them on the forum they find a very appreciative audience. :-o
 
I love your ring and have been meaning to ask you if you have a
SMTB thread ? I would love to know more about it if you care to share!
Thanks :)

Thanks. No smtb thread. But specs are 0.30 Ct vvs2 D with blue fluorescence. Set in 14k white gold with two tiny diamonds on the sides. Size 6.5.
 
This is one of the effects I mentioned of refraction. I've seen it referred to as "bloom". Part of the sparkle appears to emanate from an area outside the diamond itself. Another one of the magical things about diamonds!

You will notice it in many of the photos posted here. Many pricescopers have captured incredible light effects of their diamonds. And, of course, sharing them on the forum they find a very appreciative audience. :-o

This may be a silly question but do different people see fire differently? Fo me I see a lot of rainbows, and when I take off my glasses (I have astigmatism) it is even more rainbow, like a disco ball. My hubby however says he sees more blinding white light, but when I get him to squint (yes he thinks I'm nuts!) then he says he can see the rainbows.

It's funny because all my life I had this idea that diamonds do not give off coloured light, only white. It wasn;t until I got interested in learning more and finding this site that I learned about fire. Now I can't get enough!!!
 
This may be a silly question but do different people see fire differently? Fo me I see a lot of rainbows, and when I take off my glasses (I have astigmatism) it is even more rainbow, like a disco ball. My hubby however says he sees more blinding white light, but when I get him to squint (yes he thinks I'm nuts!) then he says he can see the rainbows.
Yes, there can be differences between people. To see a sparkle of a single color (fire) the dispersed spectral fan needs to be "clipped" by the pupil. Therefore there is an anatomical component. There are also differences between people, and I believe between genders, in the ability to see colors based upon receptors in the retina (cones).
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You might enjoy this : https://www.whiteflash.com/diamond-education/diamond-fire/
 
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Yes, there can be differences between people. To see a sparkle of a single color (fire) the dispersed spectral fan needs to be "clipped" by the pupil. Therefore there is an anatomical component. There are also differences between people, and I believe between genders, in the ability to see colors based upon receptors in the retina (cones).
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You might enjoy this : https://www.whiteflash.com/diamond-education/diamond-fire/

Fascinating, thank you! So if I am understanding you correctly, if I someday upgrade to a bigger diamond, my husband may have a higher chance of seeing the rainbow flares? Well, I guess if I must!!! :lol:
 
I have been loving my new ACA 0.718 I SI solitaire and can not get over how gorgeous it is in every light setting. I have recently noticed though that when I am in my bedroom which is in desperate need of a wall paint update it looks very warm. The walls are a very orangey cream colour, the doors are pretty much light orange and the down lights are warm "daylight" ones. I still love how it looks but it got me wondering whether this effect would also happen with a higher grade stone? My goal is to someday upgrade my ring to a 1.2 - 1.3 (thats the dream at least!) and I am wondering if I should consider a higher color if and when that happens.

I also went into my daughter's room the other night, she had a hot pink bed cover which lit up the whole room and my diamond looked light pink!!! Never seen a diamond that acts like this, its pretty amazing, I think I also notice it reflects the color of tops and I'm thinking of getting my self a hot pink sweater and seeing if I can pretend its a pink diamond, I'm slowly becoming a crazy person haha!

I guess my question is how much of the warmth that I am seeing is likely due to the environment and how much is due to the I colour? Would say an F diamond also show warmth in a warm environment ?

You have invented a yellow Ideal-Scope ;-)
 
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