Would these qualify as H&A?

[Shimmer45]

I'm trying to learn about H&A. Any input you have (good and the bad) on these diamonds would be greatly appreciated.

I understand I will need advanced images. Just getting to the first step to see if either of these MRBs are worth pursuing.


https://loupe360.com/diamond/1495311205
HCA 1.4

Loupe360

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HCA 1

Loupe360

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HCA .7

Thank you!

 

[lovedogs]

To know if a stone truly has the symmetry/precision of hearts and arrows you'd need advanced images.

Not really loving any of them, but the 3rd is my favorite if I had to choose

 

[Dreamer_D]

Are you literally asking if these stones meet the H&A definition or are you asking if they are very well cut, the kind we would recommend?

 

[Shimmer45]

Are you literally asking if these stones meet the H&A definition or are you asking if they are very well cut, the kind we would recommend?

Hi Dreamer, thank you for your reply and questions.
Yes, I’m guess asking both questions. I’m trying to understand if either of these are very well cut or even Ideal cut and would you recommend one of these?

Are only Ideal Cut H&A? Can an Ideal Cut not be a H&A?

 

[0-0-0]

Based on the videos I think the 2.55 is likely closest to H&A. The slight tilt in the video makes it look slightly off. To be sure you need advanced images. I don’t think the optical symmetry of the others are good enough to be H&A even after accounting for tilt in the videos.

Diamonds outside the typically recommended 34-35/40.6-41 combos can still show H&A patterning as long as they have good optical symmetry.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Hearts and Arrows is sort of a branding thing, where the cut precision is such that it produces perfect arrows face up and a heart pattern face down, when viewed through a specific type of viewer. Without that imaging, we can’t tell you if they are H&A stones. Most branded H&A stones are exceptionally well cut and might be what we colloquially call “super ideal”.

But a diamond can also be exceptionally well cut without being, or being able to be identified, as an H&A, which is mostly a designation associated with certain branded cuts. So if you are asking if the diamonds are exceptionally well cut… up to PS standards as it were… that is a different question than “is this H&A”.

If you want H&A then BGD, WF, and JA all have branded cuts that are H&A. If you want an exceptionally well cut stone that is not a branded H&A you can find one that it not branded from any number of vendors but it can mean weeding though many possible choices.

 

[Shimmer45]

Hearts and Arrows is sort of a branding thing, where the cut precision is such that it produces perfect arrows face up and a heart pattern face down, when viewed through a specific type of viewer. Without that imaging, we can’t tell you if they are H&A stones. Most branded H&A stones are exceptionally well cut and might be what we colloquially call “super ideal”.

But a diamond can also be exceptionally well cut without being, or being able to be identified, as an H&A, which is mostly a designation associated with certain branded cuts. So if you are asking if the diamonds are exceptionally well cut… up to PS standards as it were… that is a different question than “is this H&A”.

If you want H&A then BGD, WF, and JA all have branded cuts that are H&A. If you want an exceptionally well cut stone that is not a branded H&A you can find one that it not branded from any number of vendors but it can mean weeding though many possible choices.

@Dreamer_D Thank you for your reply. How would you classify the cuts of these diamonds?
Is it even possible to find a GIA precision cut “super ideal”? What should I be looking for? Is there any chance I could find a precision cut GIA that would be = to AGS 000? That is not from WF or BG?

 

[MissGotRocks]

Look at Whiteflash.com. Most of their A Cut Above diamonds are now GIA graded with an AGS addendum. AGS was acquired by GIA and their addendum to the GIA cert provides equivalent to AGS certs.
Check out this diamond from Whiteflash and click on the word certificate to see GIA certificate and AGS Ideal Report addendum: https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-di...-vs2-clarity-round-excellent-cut-sku-a4686464