Would you exchange from 2.53 to 2.06 ct but higher color, clarity and super ideal parameters??

[Dididudu16]

Hello, I hope everyone is having a wonderful new year

So since my previous post I have decided to upgrade to the 2.53 e vs2 with bluenile and should be receiving it within the coming up week. Since it’s a 60/60 diamond which I have never seen in person before I’m still anxious to find out whether I will be in love with it or not. Then I came across this diamond, it’s 2.06 ct and looks like it’s within super ideal parameters with HCA of 1.2 (every thing excellent except spread is very good). I guess I’m trying to find a back up diamond just in case if I don’t like the 2.53.

This is my 2.53 I’m waiting for with 1.2 HCA (everything excellent except scintillation very good)

Petite Nouveau Six-Prong Solitaire Engagement Ring in Platinum | Blue Nile

Elegant in simplicity, this petite nouveau solitaire engagement ring is crafted in platinum to create a classic frame for your center diamond.

www.bluenile.com

This is the 2.06 with 1.2 HCA (everything excellent except spread very good) @diamondseeker2006 would you think this is a better choice without actually seeing the diamond?

2.06-Carat Round Cut Diamond | Blue Nile

www.bluenile.com

So would the higher color, clarity and super ideal ranges worth it to go half a ct smaller? Or if the 2.53 doesn’t work out, is it better to wait and see what else is available within the 30 days exchange period? Which one do you all like better?

Thank you all again for any input! I’d really appreciate it!

 

[LLJsmom]

Depends on what is important to you.

1. Do you need ICY white?
2. Do you need VVS for mind-clean or other reasons?
3. Do you prefer more white light return and less distinguishable darker arrows? Try the 2.53 first.
4. Do you prefer maybe more colorful return and more distinguishable arrows, go for the 2.06.
5. Probably should have asked this first? Do you have a size requirement? For example, 2 cts will look small to me no matter the other specs.

I think your answers to these questions will help you decide.

 

[Dididudu16]

Depends on what is important to you.

1. Do you need ICY white?
2. Do you need VVS for mind-clean or other reasons?
3. Do you prefer more white light return and less distinguishable darker arrows? Try the 2.53 first.
4. Do you prefer maybe more colorful return and more distinguishable arrows, go for the 2.06.
5. Probably should have asked this first? Do you have a size requirement? For example, 2 cts will look small to me no matter the other specs.

I think your answers to these questions will help you decide.

@LLJsmom thank you for your questions to help me make a rational decision.

1. yes it has to be icy white. Color is one thing I’m not willing to compromise as I’m very color sensitive

2. It doesn’t have to be vvs for mind clean reason. As long as they are eye clean to me meaning even knowing where the inclusion is and can’t see when examining super close without any aid

3-4. I don’t know if I’ll even be able to tell the difference. As long as they are super fiery and sparkly and white I think I’ll be happy? I really have to wait and see what a 60/60 looks like.

5. as for size since I’m upgrading from 1.08ct I should be happy with a 2.06ct. BUT after seeing a 2.53 in person, I feel like it might be ALOT harder to go down in size than up....

 

[AllAboardTheBlingTrain]

Here are my thoughts:

agree that you should wait and see the 2.53 in person first. I’m a big believer in going as low in colour and clarity as a person is personally comfortable with and maximising carat and cut quality. So if the 2.53 makes you happy then it works! I am biased a bit towards well cut 60-60s because I like the added spread. Additionally, eyeclean VS2 and VVS2 will not look different to the naked eye and D and E will be very very close as far as iciness are concerned.

What are the mm measurements of both stones, and your ring size? You can then model what the stone will look like on your hand with diamdb. If you provide the measurements of your 1.06 you can create a comparison with that as well.

 

[headlight]

I think the smaller stone is prettier. Personally, I think the larger stone is too large, but that’s me.

 

[Dididudu16]

Here are my thoughts:

agree that you should wait and see the 2.53 in person first. I’m a big believer in going as low in colour and clarity as a person is personally comfortable with and maximising carat and cut quality. So if the 2.53 makes you happy then it works! I am biased a bit towards well cut 60-60s because I like the added spread. Additionally, eyeclean VS2 and VVS2 will not look different to the naked eye and D and E will be very very close as far as iciness are concerned.

What are the mm measurements of both stones, and your ring size? You can then model what the stone will look like on your hand with diamdb. If you provide the measurements of your 1.06 you can create a comparison with that as well.

@AllAboardTheBlingTrain I did use the website and compared the sizes, seems like it’s already a pretty big jump from 1 to 2 ct but I really have to wear it on my finger to get a feel of everything or at least the 2.53 first since it should be on its way to me soon. Hopefully everything works out. If not then I will have to consider this 2.06 with other availabilities then.

 

[La2020]

Hello, I hope everyone is having a wonderful new year

So since my previous post I have decided to upgrade to the 2.53 e vs2 with bluenile and should be receiving it within the coming up week. Since it’s a 60/60 diamond which I have never seen in person before I’m still anxious to find out whether I will be in love with it or not. Then I came across this diamond, it’s 2.06 ct and looks like it’s within super ideal parameters with HCA of 1.2 (every thing excellent except spread is very good). I guess I’m trying to find a back up diamond just in case if I don’t like the 2.53.

This is my 2.53 I’m waiting for with 1.2 HCA (everything excellent except scintillation very good)

Petite Nouveau Six-Prong Solitaire Engagement Ring in Platinum | Blue Nile

Elegant in simplicity, this petite nouveau solitaire engagement ring is crafted in platinum to create a classic frame for your center diamond.

www.bluenile.com

This is the 2.06 with 1.2 HCA (everything excellent except spread very good) @diamondseeker2006 would you think this is a better choice without actually seeing the diamond?

2.06-Carat Round Cut Diamond | Blue Nile

www.bluenile.com

So would the higher color, clarity and super ideal ranges worth it to go half a ct smaller? Or if the 2.53 doesn’t work out, is it better to wait and see what else is available within the 30 days exchange period? Which one do you all like better?

Thank you all again for any input! I’d really appreciate it!

I prefer bigger size since I get used to a size very quickly. However, except for clarity and sic, color and size is more apparent to the naked eye.

 

[dk168]

Personally, if I were in the market for another diamond (mined or otherwise), I would opt for the best cut, and lower the clarity to VS or even SI as long as it is eye clean, for the colour to drop to G/H or even lower for an old cut like OEC, so as to maximise on size.

Each to their own and all that.

DK

 

[tyty333]

I'm curious why you didnt go with a branded super ideal? You are pretty close in the price range and most super ideal branded
vendors have excellent up-grade policies in case you ever want to go bigger or whiter.
(or are you upgrading through BN because you have a trade-in...in that case, never mind)

 

[Dididudu16]

I'm curious why you didnt go with a branded super ideal? You are pretty close in the price range and most super ideal branded
vendors have excellent up-grade policies in case you ever want to go bigger or whiter.
(or are you upgrading through BN because you have a trade-in...in that case, never mind)

@tyty333 Unfortunately my original diamond was through BN and I had to upgrade with them... Also I didn’t find out about those super ideal vendors until I joined this community I guess I can only tell myself until next time (but who knows when!)

 

[munchee]

If I were you, I’ll let the BN one to be 1 time make the 1ct to be a pendant or stud in the future if I can’t sell it and start saving my upgrade with super ideal vendors. Since I won’t roll that much money to be a bigger ball in BN. Except if you see no difference in super ideal vs BN and your next upgrade will be $70-80k.
I would compare BN with super ideal stone, with super ideal vendors you can upgrade at any time later but with BN you can only upgrade again if you have $70-$80k

 

[Dididudu16]

If I were you, I’ll let the BN one to be 1 time make the 1ct to be a pendant or stud in the future if I can’t sell it and start saving my upgrade with super ideal vendors. Since I won’t roll that much money to be a bigger ball in BN. Except if you see no difference in super ideal vs BN and your next upgrade will be $70-80k.
I would compare BN with super ideal stone, with super ideal vendors you can upgrade at any time later but with BN you can only upgrade again if you have $70-$80k

@munchee i see what you are saying but it’s already too late for that...My original diamond has already been listed for sale on BN with about 2k profit from the price I purchased five years ago and there is no way for me to get it back since I’ve already sent it in. I guess I’m already stuck at this point..
I’ve been following on your story as well. How are you liking your diamond? Are you going to keep it? Or at least for now?

 

[SimoneDi]

OP, to answer your question, I would definitely give the 2.5 ct a try before going to a 2ct. While you might be even happy with the 2ct, a 2.5ct will likely satisfy you for longer, especially if you will not be able to upgrade again in the near future. I looked on BN and saw this stone that I think is lovely. I think that it will be eye clean, I myself have had stones with table inclusions and VS2 grade and they had been eye clean.

 

[Dididudu16]

OP, to answer your question, I would definitely give the 2.5 ct a try before going to a 2ct. While you might be even happy with the 2ct, a 2.5ct will likely satisfy you for longer, especially if you will not be able to upgrade again in the near future. I looked on BN and saw this stone that I think is lovely. I think that it will be eye clean, I myself have had stones with table inclusions and VS2 grade and they had been eye clean.

@SimoneDi thank you for your suggestion! I just checked it has a HCA of 1.5 I will definitely keep it in mind if I don’t end up liking the 2.53. I should be receiving the ring in 2-3days and we will see then.

 

[oncrutchesrightnow]

Since the 2.53 is on the way go ahead and look at that first.

For the D v. E, depends on the setting. If you are not going to be looking at it much from the side, then you probably won’t notice much difference.

For VS2 v. VVS2, I am in the minority on PS in that IMHO clarity is important. I used to go for VS but now prefer VVS. It seems to sparkle more.

For carat size, I’m also in the minority on PS in that I like smaller stones. I hardly wear my 2 carat. I love jewelry but even putting your hand in your pocket or digging through your purse feels different. Also I find that there aren’t a lot of people who go for D/VVS and the quality really stands out. You are talking about a 0.8 mm difference, which you could notice, but you might notice the color and sparkle more.

Since BN has a return policy, give it some time so you see how satisfied you are with the cut, clarity, and color after the perfect out of the box condition goes away and a little bit of dirt sticks to it.

Regardless you are looking at two lovely stones and either way you will have something beautiful.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

What I will say is that when you see the 2.5 E, if you are in love with it, keep it. It gives you a lot more size for the price than the 2 ct D VVS. However, for me personally, I prefer the cut so much more of the D, although I'd really rather have a larger E or F than a 2 ct DVVS. I realize you are doing an upgrade, but do not let them rush you since this is likely to be a stone you keep permanently.

(VVS does not sparkle more than a VS1 or clean VS2. A stone would have to have a lot of inclusions to not sparkle as much as long as cut was equal.)

 

[munchee]

@munchee i see what you are saying but it’s already too late for that...My original diamond has already been listed for sale on BN with about 2k profit from the price I purchased five years ago and there is no way for me to get it back since I’ve already sent it in. I guess I’m already stuck at this point..
I’ve been following on your story as well. How are you liking your diamond? Are you going to keep it? Or at least for now?

I compare it with a GIA 3ex with numbers far from ideal, I got for my SIL, I noticed that I like smaller sparkle (gia) than big flashes (aca) so I’m still thinking now.
Since it was an upgrade and you haven’t even received the upgraded diamond, did BN didn’t give room for thinking? Customer can’t contact BN and said they change their mind with the upgrade? A PSers did that with WF couple weeks ago, she upgraded and when she got the upgraded diamond she realized she likes her original diamond better, WF already listed it then they put it on hold and give her 1 week to think about it. And she decided to get her original diamond back and cancel the upgrade, is it not in the option with BN?
Because with this upgrade you put that much money in BN and have you think about if this is your last upgrade or what happened if you want to get another upgrade? You need to get to 70-80k? Or you don’t mind if your next upgrade would be $70-80k? I know everyone have different financial circumstances, for me $70-80k seems like 10-20yrs away

 

[Yimmers]

Honestly, if you love the 2.5 E, I would keep it. I don't like paying for vvs when I can't see anything. If it doesn't sit well with you, then I would send it back and keep looking. There will be a significant size difference between the two, so you may find the 2.0 D will not quite tick off the size box.

 

[Dididudu16]

What I will say is that when you see the 2.5 E, if you are in love with it, keep it. It gives you a lot more size for the price than the 2 ct D VVS. However, for me personally, I prefer the cut so much more of the D, although I'd really rather have a larger E or F than a 2 ct DVVS. I realize you are doing an upgrade, but do not let them rush you since this is likely to be a stone you keep permanently.

(VVS does not sparkle more than a VS1 or clean VS2. A stone would have to have a lot of inclusions to not sparkle as much as long as cut was equal.)

@diamondseeker2006 do you think there will be much visual difference between these two in terms of fire? I know the 2.53 e will be bright and white due to the larger spread and shallower crown angle but what about the colorful lights comparison between the two? If unless an expert could tell the difference then I think I should be happy with the E.

 

[munchee]

My SIL diamond have 59% table 62.3% depth, I got another one for my other SIL
With 60% table and 59.8% depth and they all love it, its still a beautiful diamond, still have beautiful sparkle. I got them at around half price of what super ideal price would be and they love it! Sometimes our naked eye is more honest than our head that only see numbers in certificate.

 

[Dididudu16]

I compare it with a GIA 3ex with numbers far from ideal, I got for my SIL, I noticed that I like smaller sparkle (gia) than big flashes (aca) so I’m still thinking now.
Since it was an upgrade and you haven’t even received the upgraded diamond, did BN didn’t give room for thinking? Customer can’t contact BN and said they change their mind with the upgrade? A PSers did that with WF couple weeks ago, she upgraded and when she got the upgraded diamond she realized she likes her original diamond better, WF already listed it then they put it on hold and give her 1 week to think about it. And she decided to get her original diamond back and cancel the upgrade, is it not in the option with BN?
Because with this upgrade you put that much money in BN and have you think about if this is your last upgrade or what happened if you want to get another upgrade? You need to get to 70-80k? Or you don’t mind if your next upgrade would be $70-80k? I know everyone have different financial circumstances, for me $70-80k seems like 10-20yrs away

I’m glad you get to test out different diamonds and hopefully will find your true love soon!

Well BN upgrade policy won’t allow me to get back the original diamond under any circumstances. Unless I can buy it back again with additional 2k than what I paid for originally. and let’s say if I don’t like this 2.53 e I would have to find a replacement within the 30 days period, if not then I’m stuck with it unless like you said, upgrade again for double the price. I was just thinking whichever diamond I end up with this time will be the last with BN. If after x number of years I want to upgrade again, I’ll just go with those super ideal vendors and start fresh. So with the amount of money I’d spend if I were to upgrade again with BN, I’ll end up with two diamonds (IF I get to upgrade again....

 

[Dididudu16]

My SIL diamond have 59% table 62.3% depth, I got another one for my other SIL
With 60% table and 59.8% depth and they all love it, its still a beautiful diamond, still have beautiful sparkle. I got them at around half price of what super ideal price would be and they love it! Sometimes our naked eye is more honest than our head that only see numbers in certificate.

I completely agree! Sometimes you just have to let your eyes be the judge. The 60% table and 59.8% depth is similar to my 2.53 e. Do you remember what the crown and pavilion angles were? I’m curious if you see any visual difference between it and your super ideal??

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Fire is not something you see a lot unless you work in spot lighting or in the sun. So I wouldn't worry about slight differences in fire. I think you'll know if you love the 2.5 E, and if you don't, just return it and try again!

I love the diamond in my avatar picture, but I ordered and returned several until I found the one that best met my preferences.

 

[munchee]

I completely agree! Sometimes you just have to let your eyes be the judge. The 60% table and 59.8% depth is similar to my 2.53 e. Do you remember what the crown and pavilion angles were? I’m curious if you see any visual difference between it and your super ideal??

It was farrrr from ideal!! I didn’t know about ideal details when I help her looking for it. I’m so glad it was a happy ending lol
I bought it 4yrs ago for $7k-ish I think... I forgot exactly how much it cost. I still have the certificate with me lol

I checked, I bought it for $6858

sorry I thought the table was 60 but ita actually 59

 

[Dididudu16]

It was farrrr from ideal!! I didn’t know about ideal details when I help her looking for it. I’m so glad it was a happy ending lol
I bought it 4yrs ago for $7k-ish I think... I forgot exactly how much it cost. I still have the certificate with me lol

I checked, I bought it for $6858

sorry I thought the table was 60 but ita actually 59

I think mine will be very similar to this one then. My crown angle is 34 and depth 60.3, the table and pavilion angle are the same. I just can’t wait to see what it looks like! I don’t know about the light performance yet but all I know is that it will be a lot Bigger than what I had before!

 

[munchee]

@Nancy Z don’t let numbers ruin your fun!!! If its beautiful in your eyes it is beautiful!!!! Can’t wait to see it arrived and some hand shots

 

[msop04]

Larger E... all day long. No question.

 

[Dancing Fire]

Or this one...

2.135 D VVS1 Brian Gavin Preorder Round

Buy diamonds online - AGS graded 2.135 carat D VVS1 Round super ideal cut Brian Gavin Preorder Diamond. Lifetime Upgrade Policy!

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[Dididudu16]

@Karl_K @diamondseeker2006 @munchee @AllAboardTheBlingTrain

Hello everyone! My ring is here!!! I definitely love this size. I don’t have any idealscope or Aset scope, but what do you think about the performance of this diamond from those pictures?? @LLJsmom I see what you mean now by less distinguishing arrows.
I’m still trying to get to know this ring and the hard thing is that I don’t have anything side by side to compare with. I sure do see a lot of white but there seems to be a bunch colorful light too? Please let me know what you all think, is this a keeper? Thanks again!

 

[Dididudu16]

Am I allowed to post short video clips here? I don’t seem to have the option to do that?