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Rons Wolfe

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I'm second guessing (or is it third-guessing the size of the middle stone of a 5-stone ring. The outsides are 36 point ACA's The inner sides are 60 point CBI's. I bought a 92 pointer, and now am considering bumping up to 1.08-1.10. Around 6.6 mm. But I'm having a hard time knowing how it's going to look from just seeing them all in a tray, so I stuck a 6.5 mm CZ in the middle, and taped them to the finger the ring is for. I know the pic is crap, but what do you think of my stone sizes?

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I may be alone, but I like my diamond(s) to stay clean.
A setting that ensures a diamond rubs against adjacent finger is anathema to me.

Therefore I'd do a 3 stone setting, not 5.

But again, I expect I'm alone on this ... but you did ask for opinions.
 
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I may be alone, but I like my diamond(s) to stay clean.
A setting that ensures a diamond rubs against adjacent finger is anathema to me.

Therefore I'd do a 3 stone setting, not 5.

But again, I expect I'm alone on this ... but you did ask for opinions.

Opinion appreciated. But bear in mind, once there's some metal under those stone they'll be up high enough that they won't rub the adjacent finger with normal movement.

A really crappy drawing that's roughly to scale with the larger stone.
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I think it looks good if you're wanting a little more finger coverage! Makes the center stone "pop" a little more.
I think it depends if you're looking for a "band" look or a center stone with side stones look. This is leaning more towards the
center stone with side-stones but sort of walks the middle line between the two looks.

Can you post the pics of the layout with the smaller center?

Edit...for anyone interested this link has pictures of the line up with a smaller center
 
Kind of hard to tell in your picture. Have you seen @Niel ‘s five stone from a few years ago? Your inspiration reminds me of hers and it was amazing. Quick find, it’s post #3 in this thread. It may help you determine sizes and ratios. Good luck!!

 
I think it depends if you're going for a staggered look (which is what I originally recommended the 6.2 for) or if you're going for a look where the center stone is more "on stage." If you're going for a more "on stage" look i almost think you could go larger than the 6.5 you showed; maybe 6.75mm. Because I'm a bit (understatement) of a ratio nut, the 6.5 just looks not quite right. It's not the right size for mathematical sequence and it's not the right size for it to be the star of the show.

That's just my opinion, though! I know at the end of the day I'm just asking you to spend more money if you go larger and that is presumptuous.
 
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I agree with some of the others. If you want something that looks more like a band, then I'd stick with the smaller stone. The larger stone makes it look more like the sides are a "support" group for the center.
 
Kind of hard to tell in your picture. Have you seen @Niel ‘s five stone from a few years ago? Your inspiration reminds me of hers and it was amazing. Quick find, it’s post #3 in this thread. It may help you determine sizes and ratios. Good luck!!


I've seen that one and I like it, didn't know the stone sizes, thank you. My side stones are larger, but so is the finger it's going on. I have .72 CTW, 1.20 CTW, and whatever center I choose.
 
I think it looks good if you're wanting a little more finger coverage! Makes the center stone "pop" a little more.
I think it depends if you're looking for a "band" look or a center stone with side stones look. This is leaning more towards the
center stone with side-stones but sort of walks the middle line between the two looks.

Can you post the pics of the layout with the smaller center?

Edit...for anyone interested this link has pictures of the line up with a smaller center

OK, I got a couple pics with the smaller stone. I can see why I haven't seen this posted before, it's hard to do!

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I think it depends if you're going for a staggered look (which is what I originally recommended the 6.2 for) or if you're going for a look where the center stone is more "on stage." If you're going for a more "on stage" look i almost think you could go larger than the 6.5 you showed; maybe 6.75mm.

I was thinking the same thing, to *me* the current lineup says “center with two pairs of sidestones” more than “band”, and a larger center would extra-confirm the “center with sidestones” read…

But yeah, I wonder the same thing, what look would you prefer? I remember you wanted to enlarge the first pair of sides visually compared to center, and you wanted to minimize the visual size of the end stones - is that still your preference? Because I do still think that’s achievable by playing with different prong alignments if you don’t want to drop centerstone size to the other stone!
 
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OK, I got a couple pics with the smaller stone. I can see why I haven't seen this posted before, it's hard to do!

My eyes prefer this look if the goal is to be staggered. If the goal is to have a more center-is-the-star appearance I would lean toward a larger center stone than the 6.5 mm CZ you demonstrated above. Doesn't need to be a massive difference; I think 6.75 would look great. But the 6.5 just looks a bit ambiguous as to what the ring is "supposed" to be.

But it's your ring! So, my suppositions don't much matter at the end of the day :drool::twirl:
 
My eyes prefer this look if the goal is to be staggered. If the goal is to have a more center-is-the-star appearance I would lean toward a larger center stone than the 6.5 mm CZ you demonstrated above. Doesn't need to be a massive difference; I think 6.75 would look great. But the 6.5 just looks a bit ambiguous as to what the ring is "supposed" to be.

But it's your ring! So, my suppositions don't much matter at the end of the day :drool::twirl:

As I look more, and consider Yssie's comment one could also enhance the center-is-the-star appearance by using contrasting metal for the center stone or using a bezel for the center stone and prongs for the side stones :) or... a wider bezel for that one and more narrow bezels for the other two... don't get me down a design rabbit hole... they go deep!
 
I was thinking the same thing, to *me* the current lineup says “center with two pairs of sidestones” more than “band”, and a larger center would extra-confirm the “center with sidestones” read…

But yeah, I wonder the same thing, what look would you prefer? I remember you wanted to enlarge the first pair of sides visually compared to center, and you wanted to minimize the visual size of the end stones - is that still your preference? Because I do still think that’s achievable by playing with prongs if you don’t want to do more stone buying (I mean - playing with different prong alignments), and if you don’t want to drop centerstone size to the other stone!

That's the hard part, I'm not sure what my preference is right now. But after postiing both sets of pics and looking at them. I'm kind of swinging back to the band look. And that really better fits the intent my husband had when he gave his input that caused this whole thing to start.

BTW, if your name EF Hutton? Because when Yssie speaks, people listen. :D
 
My eyes prefer this look if the goal is to be staggered. If the goal is to have a more center-is-the-star appearance I would lean toward a larger center stone than the 6.5 mm CZ you demonstrated above. Doesn't need to be a massive difference; I think 6.75 would look great. But the 6.5 just looks a bit ambiguous as to what the ring is "supposed" to be.

But it's your ring! So, my suppositions don't much matter at the end of the day :drool::twirl:

I think you just nailed what my eyes were trying to tell my brain. Ambiguous. Just for grins I put a .75 moissanite in the middle, and now I'm wondering if that's the way to go. Except with a diamond, of course.

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God if the gift of verbal hypnosis was buyable I’d max all my credit cards out and no regrets :lol-2:

I really like the bottom lineup… That’s just my personal preference though, I tend to prefer more of a center-with-sides look usually…
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So I had an idea last night and figured I’d run it by you - bear with me, and if you hate it that is 100% okay!!! It’s just a random thought I had, I was thinking about your ring plans and vines…
 
So I had an idea last night and figured I’d run it by you - bear with me, and if you hate it that is 100% okay!!! It’s just a random thought I had, I was thinking about your ring plans and vines…

As the Ferengi say, I'm all ears...........
 
I think you just nailed what my eyes were trying to tell my brain. Ambiguous. Just for grins I put a .75 moissanite in the middle, and now I'm wondering if that's the way to go. Except with a diamond, of course.

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My eyes like the bottom lineup because I like the ratios :)

I also think you could use those stones to do a band appearance OR a 5 stone appearance... again, rabbit hole ;)
 
A couple weeks ago I was clipping the hedges and pulling creepers off the fence and I was shocked by how those plants can knit themselves around a structure - twisting and twirling and winding themselves around anything they find - I took this photo to show my husband (he wasn’t impressed at all :lol:)

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But there’s something wild and strangely beautiful about that vine - it doesn’t care that that fence is wholly unnatural, it’s going to use whatever the heck it finds to grow and establish itself…

That’s pretty handwavey. I know. So with my ring we sort of… Turned the ring into the florals. Like, the basket is a flower, the prongs are leaf stems - trying to make the ring itself BE the flower and its stalk. Kind of.

But vines, they don’t really have structures, yknow? They just vine themselves around whatever structure’s already there. So what if you did that for your vines?

Like, a plain, wholly “unnatural” not-at-all-organic five stone basket setting. Industrial. Like my fence. And then your vine as the foil, doing exactly what a real vine would do and twisting and knotting itself around that setting, between the prongs and around the gallery and maybe even roping around one of the stones or cutting into the shank somewhere…

And to prevent it from getting too gothic web-ey - small flowers sprouting from the vine? Some engraved, some “patched on”, or maybe different metal colours, or maybe melee centers or petals..?

And you could do each side of the ring with a different pattern, if you wanted the additional wildness and asymmetry, instead of having your ring gallery be symmetric on both sides - that’s what I did with my ring and I love it!

Annnnyyyyway. So this is what I do. Send my vendor a photo of a vine clipping on a fence and say “make me that”. I’m totally that person. :lol: But, just something I was thinking about last night. I know you’ve already started on a design so if this isn’t helpful or you hate it that’s totally okay, like, legit :bigsmile:
 
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A couple weeks ago I was clipping the hedges and pulling creepers off the fence and I was shocked by how those plants can knit themselves around a structure - twisting and twirling and winding themselves around anything they find - I took this photo to show my husband (he wasn’t impressed at all :lol:)

BABFB8A8-D466-4E57-8F3C-AF718C968611.jpeg

But there’s something wild and strangely beautiful about that vine - it doesn’t care that that fence is wholly unnatural, it’s going to use whatever the heck it finds to grow and establish itself…

That’s pretty handwavey. I know. So with my ring we sort of… Turned the ring into the florals. Like, the basket is a flower, the prongs are leaf stems - trying to make the ring itself BE the flower and its stalk. Kind of.

But vines, they don’t really have structures, yknow? They just vine themselves around whatever structure’s already there. So what if you did that for your vines?

Like, a plain, wholly “unnatural” not-at-all-organic five stone basket setting. Industrial. Like my fence. And then your vine as the foil, doing exactly what a real vine would do and twisting and knotting itself around that setting, between the prongs and around the gallery and maybe even roping around one of the stones or cutting into the shank somewhere…

And to prevent it from getting too gothic web-ey - small flowers sprouting from the vine? Some engraved, some “patched on”, or maybe different metal colours, or maybe melee centers or petals..?

And you could do each side of the ring with a different pattern, if you wanted the additional wildness and asymmetry, instead of having your ring gallery be symmetric on both sides - that’s what I did with my ring and I love it!

Annnnyyyyway. So this is what I do. Send my vendor a photo of a vine clipping on a fence and say “make me that”. I’m totally that person. :lol: But, just something I was thinking about last night. I know you’ve already started on a design so if this isn’t helpful or you hate it that’s totally okay, like, legit :bigsmile:

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm....................




I'll have you know this was one of my inspiration pics. ;)

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Oooooo. Do, do , do , do. Do, do , do, do! LOL
 
I think you just nailed what my eyes were trying to tell my brain. Ambiguous. Just for grins I put a .75 moissanite in the middle, and now I'm wondering if that's the way to go. Except with a diamond, of course.

1680468998122.png

I like the bottom line up
 
Oooooo. Do, do , do , do. Do, do , do, do! LOL

Do, do , do , do. Do, do , do, do what? There's 3 center stone options posted in here. ;) :D
 
My eyes like the bottom lineup because I like the ratios :)

I also think you could use those stones to do a band appearance OR a 5 stone appearance... again, rabbit hole ;-)

I ended up agreeing with you on that, although the line-up with the 5.9 center stone is appealing. too. Ironically, the thing that drove me to consider the 6.6 mm was also numbers. 1.08 ct would have put the ring at the 3 CTW, and my OCD it beating a tattoo in my brain about it even though it's not visually appealing. Thank you for your input. :)
 
I also like the bottom lineup...the proportions look perfect to me! Although I'm not good at picturing artsy things in my head, I
really like some of @yssie 's ideas.
 
I think you just nailed what my eyes were trying to tell my brain. Ambiguous. Just for grins I put a .75 moissanite in the middle, and now I'm wondering if that's the way to go. Except with a diamond, of course.

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I am really loving the look of the bottom suite here. Perfection!
 
How's your ring coming along? DK has all my diamonds so it's now just a waiting game. :doh:
 
How's your ring coming along? DK has all my diamonds so it's now just a waiting game. :doh:

I'm waiting for what I think is going to be the final CAD. I sent in one minor tweak last night, and expect I'll be sending the diamonds next. Is there anything I need to know about sending the diamonds?
 
I'm waiting for what I think is going to be the final CAD. I sent in one minor tweak last night, and expect I'll be sending the diamonds next. Is there anything I need to know about sending the diamonds?

Is DK doing your ring? He sent me a UPS insured label. I packaged all my diamonds separately with the GIA, etc information with each.
Patiently waiting for glamour shots. :dance:
 
Is DK doing your ring? He sent me a UPS insured label. I packaged all my diamonds separately with the GIA, etc information with each.
Patiently waiting for glamour shots. :dance:

Does he ask for them separate, and for the GIA (or AGS) info on each?

Can't wait to see yours.
 
Does he ask for them separate, and for the GIA (or AGS) info on each?

Can't wait to see yours.
Each stone was separate but all in one UPS box. Sorry that wasn't very clear. :doh:

I put each stone (In it's case) in a ziplock back and included a copy of the GIA. He will want the GIA numbers or other information you have to provide you an appraisal.
 
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