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potatowned

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Hi diamond experts. I am looking to propose to my girlfriend of 6 years soon and after visiting local jewelers for months, the best prices still seem to be online, IMO. Specifically, Bluenile and B2cJewels.

I'll tell you what I am looking for, and then ask my questions:

1.3+
Round
Cut: Excellent
Color: H+
Clarity: VS2+
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent

I've read a ton on girdle, table, depth, ratios, and I know what is considered ideal, but I wanted to get some more opinions on what I should be looking for.

Furthermore, my girlfriend has hinted that she would give up some quality for size, so I am wondering now if I should go down to an "I" in color or SI1 in clarity for a bit of extra size. I am not opposed to fluorescence either, so my understanding is that if I go down to "I", I should look for some fluorescence so that the diamond appears whiter.

What is everyone's opinion on going down in color vs clarity? Going down in either opens me up to so many more options.

My budget is around $8500, and it seems the biggest I can get with my original search parameters is around 1.35c. If I go down in either color or clarity, the size jumps up to 1.5c.

Here is the ring I originally settled on: http://www.bluenile.com/build-your-own-ring/diamond-details/LD01779973

Opinions on it?

Dropping the color down, I see options like this: http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-6268543-1.44-carat-Round-diamond-I-color-VS2-clarity.aspx

I really need help! Looking forward to seeing your feedback. Feel free to link me to some better options! Thanks all.
 
Here's how you do the HCA thing, it's really easy :) This will help you figure out whether to bother moving forward with a diamond.

Go here: https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca

On the HCA page, there is an image of a diamond and it shows you which angles are crown and pavilion, and which % to use for depth and table.

Plug the numbers from the GIA certificate into the boxes, push "GO" and BOOM. Your BN diamond came back with a 4.2-- you can do MUCH better. When you do find a diamond with a score of 2 or under, ask for an idealscope image from the vendor and post it here. We will help you :)

Other posters here are better are finding good options for you than I would be, but I just wanted to give you an easy HCA tutorial. Congrats on getting engaged soon!
 
Hi! Welcome & congrats on ur upcoming engagement :)
I'm pretty new to PriceScope, as a poster, and while I don't consider myself a diamond expert I think I could help you out a bit. Both of the stones you posted have HCA above 2.0 which is not good. The HCA is a rejection tool not a selection tool, meaning you want a diamond with an HCA below 2, but a diamond with an HCA of 0.7 is not necessarily better than one with an HCA of 1.4. In addition, both of the diamonds you posted are "60-60 diamonds", you can search threads and read up on this and make your own opinions about whether this is something you'd like or not. I would start by running all the diamonds you are considering through the HCA tool and making sure it's less than 2. Here's the link to the HCA tool:

https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca

As for the color, it's a very personal choice because people differ in their color sensitivity. Some people are completely fine with a J diamond and other notice the color in an H, so I'll leave the color choice up to you. Clarity is much harder to distinguish, so as long as the diamond is "eye-clean" you should be fine. Always ask vendors about this and ask specifically about their definition of eye clean (i.e. at what distance). Also, some inclusions will be covered by the prongs once set so diamonds with them make a great deal because they have lower clarity but are not visible once set. If possible, request an Idealscope report from vendors before making your purchase and come back on here to have others take a look at it to ensure that your diamond has optimal light return. These are some of the basics I picked up reading other threads, and here are two suggestions for you, an H and I you might be interested in. I chose Ritani because I like their in store preview options, their settings are very well made, and I have found them very pleasant to deal with, but there are many other vendors out there to try (James Allen, Whiteflash, Brian Galvin, etc.). Ritani will also offer a 1.5% wire discount.

H:
http://www.ritani.com/diamonds/round-diamond-1-32-Carat-H-color-GIA-certified/D-3FW517
1.32 H VS2 $7692, HCA 1.5

I:
http://www.ritani.com/diamonds/round-diamond-1-50-Carat-I-color-GIA-certified/D-3H9PJY
1.50 I VS2 $8077, HCA 1.8
Note that this diamond has a large table at 61% and a depth of 58.9%so it'd be a 60-60 style diamond, they can appear larger than their carat weight.

If you like any of these diamonds, or any you see on other sites, I suggest you put them on hold before posting links because a lot of people read threads and recommendations and might get to the diamond beforehand. If you're interested, put them on hold, request additional imaging and videos, and request idealscope.

Goodluck! :)
 
deisy|1412716216|3763864 said:
Hi! Welcome & congrats on ur upcoming engagement :)
I'm pretty new to PriceScope, as a poster, and while I don't consider myself a diamond expert I think I could help you out a bit. Both of the stones you posted have HCA above 2.0 which is not good. The HCA is a rejection tool not a selection tool, meaning you want a diamond with an HCA below 2, but a diamond with an HCA of 0.7 is not necessarily better than one with an HCA of 1.4. In addition, both of the diamonds you posted are "60-60 diamonds", you can search threads and read up on this and make your own opinions about whether this is something you'd like or not. I would start by running all the diamonds you are considering through the HCA tool and making sure it's less than 2. Here's the link to the HCA tool:

https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca

As for the color, it's a very personal choice because people differ in their color sensitivity. Some people are completely fine with a J diamond and other notice the color in an H, so I'll leave the color choice up to you. Clarity is much harder to distinguish, so as long as the diamond is "eye-clean" you should be fine. Always ask vendors about this and ask specifically about their definition of eye clean (i.e. at what distance). Also, some inclusions will be covered by the prongs once set so diamonds with them make a great deal because they have lower clarity but are not visible once set. If possible, request an Idealscope report from vendors before making your purchase and come back on here to have others take a look at it to ensure that your diamond has optimal light return. These are some of the basics I picked up reading other threads, and here are two suggestions for you, an H and I you might be interested in. I chose Ritani because I like their in store preview options, their settings are very well made, and I have found them very pleasant to deal with, but there are many other vendors out there to try (James Allen, Whiteflash, Brian Galvin, etc.). Ritani will also offer a 1.5% wire discount.

H:
http://www.ritani.com/diamonds/round-diamond-1-32-Carat-H-color-GIA-certified/D-3FW517
1.32 H VS2 $7692, HCA 1.5

I:
http://www.ritani.com/diamonds/round-diamond-1-50-Carat-I-color-GIA-certified/D-3H9PJY
1.50 I VS2 $8077, HCA 1.8
Note that this diamond has a large table at 61% and a depth of 58.9%so it'd be a 60-60 style diamond, they can appear larger than their carat weight.

If you like any of these diamonds, or any you see on other sites, I suggest you put them on hold before posting links because a lot of people read threads and recommendations and might get to the diamond beforehand. If you're interested, put them on hold, request additional imaging and videos, and request idealscope.

Goodluck! :)
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Thank you! This is very helpful. I have read about HCA and used the Pricescope finder and sorted diamonds by HCA rating - but I've read a few conflicting things about the HCA value. For Bluenile and other drop ship retailers, I can't ask for an Idealscope, right?

As for color vs clarity, it seems like VS2 vs SI1 will be harder to distinguish than H vs I.

What are your thoughts on going with fluorescence to make the diamond appear even whiter?
 
I love fluoro! I have a J colored with med/strong blue fluoro and it does help the color when uv is present. I'd also keep on the lookout for a well cut 60/60 stone as they face up bigger than Tolk cuts and seem brighter, but maybe not as fiery (which also helps the color too). If you haven't seen many diamonds in person, I'd go look and see if you have color/clarity sensitivities. An eye clean Si1 or Si2 is very budget friendly. As for color, staying with I color is still conservative so look at some Js too. Many people here, including myself, have Js to get our dream size (but everyone is different and it's a personal choice). All this advice is given assuming that cut is king and that is not compromised, corroborated by HCA and reflector images (IS or ASET). You have a nice budget and should be able to get near 7.5mm diameter, which is a very nice size (around 1.5 ct). Good luck and keep us posted.
 
The entire purpose of faceting a diamond is to reflect light.
How well or how poorly a diamond does this determines how beautiful it is.
How well a diamond performs is determined by the angles and cutting. This is why we say cut is king.
No other factor: not color, not clarity has as much of an impact on the appearance of a diamond as its cut. An ideal H will out white a poorly cut F. And GIA Ex is not enough. And you must stick to GIA and AGS only. EGL is a bad option: [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/egl-certification-are-any-of-them-ok.142863/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/egl-certification-are-any-of-them-ok.142863/[/URL]
So how to we ensure that we have the right angles and cutting to get the light performance we want?
https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/diamond-cut
Well one method is to start with a GIA Ex, and then apply the HCA to it. YOU DO NOT USE HCA for AGS0 stones.
https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/holloway-cut-advisor
The HCA is a rejection tool. Not a selection tool. It uses 4 data points to make a rudimentary call on how the diamond may perform.
If the diamond passes then you know that you are in the right zone in terms of angles for light performance. Under 2 is a pass. Under 2.5-2.1 is a maybe. 2.6 and over is a no. No score 2 and under is better than any other.
Is that enough? Not really.
So what you need is a way to check actual light performance of your actual stone.
That's what an idealscope image does. https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/firescope-idealscope
It shows you how and wear your diamond is reflecting light, how well it is going at it, and where you are losing light return. That is why you won't see us recommending Blue Nile, as they do not provide idealscope images for their diamonds. BGD, James Allen, GOG, HPD, ERD and WF do.

The Idealscope is the 'selection tool'. Not the HCA.
So yes, with a GIA stone you need the idealscope images. Or you can buy an idealscope yourself and take it in to the jeweler you are working with to check the stones yourself. Or if you have a good return policy (full refund minimum 7 days) then you can buy the idealscope, buy the stone, and do it at home.


Now if you want to skip all that... stick to AGS0 stones and then all you have to do is pick color and clarity and you know you have a great performing diamond. Because AGS has already done the checking for you. That's why they trade at a premium.
 
Thanks Gypsy. Very thorough explanation. This is why AGS0 cost more, right? But it doesn't mean that the AGS0 stones are better than GIA excellent - I could potentially find a GIA excellent that will be comparable - I just need to check the HCA score and the idealscope images?

Will local jewelers have an ideascope? And be willing to analyze my diamond for me? I don't look forward to buying and idealscope and doing my own analysis, based on my limited knowledge.

Could you let me know what sites these are? "BGD, GOG, HPD, ERD and WF"
 
Depends on which jewelers are near you. Where are you located? Most stores don't but if you are near a PS dealer, then it is possible.

Brian Gavin Diamond BGD
Whiteflash WF
Enagement Rings Direct is now known as Brilliantly Engaged (ERD/BE)
Good Old Gold GOG
James Allen JA
High Performance Diamonds HPD.

Yes, that's why AGS0's cost more. And no there is nothing intrinsically better about AGS stones over GIA ones.

This will expect the rest: [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/likelihood-of-finding-a-signature-super-ideal-diamond.174235/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/likelihood-of-finding-a-signature-super-ideal-diamond.174235/[/URL]
 
I am in Southern California...

So, to those on the board, would you prefer a BG Blue (which I have read is a great value to those on the board):

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.501-k-si1-round-diamond-ags-bl-104072305016#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/1/

This is something with a much lower color than I was originally considering, but since I now know cut is king, and AGS0 is like greatly desired, would this be better than a GIA Excellent, with better clarity and color and an HCA score lower than 2? I have a feeling that you guys are going to tell me that I need an idealscope image to make the determination...

How about vs another AGS0 diamond that is smaller, but with better clarity and color? Ex: http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.208-h-si1-round-diamond-ags-bl-104072305011

My girlfriend wants this on a yellow gold setting, if it matters. Apparently Lauren Conrad has a yellow gold setting...
 
deisy|1412716216|3763864 said:
Hi! Welcome & congrats on ur upcoming engagement :)
I'm pretty new to PriceScope, as a poster, and while I don't consider myself a diamond expert I think I could help you out a bit. Both of the stones you posted have HCA above 2.0 which is not good. The HCA is a rejection tool not a selection tool, meaning you want a diamond with an HCA below 2, but a diamond with an HCA of 0.7 is not necessarily better than one with an HCA of 1.4. In addition, both of the diamonds you posted are "60-60 diamonds", you can search threads and read up on this and make your own opinions about whether this is something you'd like or not. I would start by running all the diamonds you are considering through the HCA tool and making sure it's less than 2. Here's the link to the HCA tool:

https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca

As for the color, it's a very personal choice because people differ in their color sensitivity. Some people are completely fine with a J diamond and other notice the color in an H, so I'll leave the color choice up to you. Clarity is much harder to distinguish, so as long as the diamond is "eye-clean" you should be fine. Always ask vendors about this and ask specifically about their definition of eye clean (i.e. at what distance). Also, some inclusions will be covered by the prongs once set so diamonds with them make a great deal because they have lower clarity but are not visible once set. If possible, request an Idealscope report from vendors before making your purchase and come back on here to have others take a look at it to ensure that your diamond has optimal light return. These are some of the basics I picked up reading other threads, and here are two suggestions for you, an H and I you might be interested in. I chose Ritani because I like their in store preview options, their settings are very well made, and I have found them very pleasant to deal with, but there are many other vendors out there to try (James Allen, Whiteflash, Brian Galvin, etc.). Ritani will also offer a 1.5% wire discount.

H:
http://www.ritani.com/diamonds/round-diamond-1-32-Carat-H-color-GIA-certified/D-3FW517
1.32 H VS2 $7692, HCA 1.5

I:
http://www.ritani.com/diamonds/round-diamond-1-50-Carat-I-color-GIA-certified/D-3H9PJY
1.50 I VS2 $8077, HCA 1.8
Note that this diamond has a large table at 61% and a depth of 58.9%so it'd be a 60-60 style diamond, they can appear larger than their carat weight.

If you like any of these diamonds, or any you see on other sites, I suggest you put them on hold before posting links because a lot of people read threads and recommendations and might get to the diamond beforehand. If you're interested, put them on hold, request additional imaging and videos, and request idealscope.

Goodluck! :)
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Hi Deisy... question for you on Ritani. I'm unable to search their diamonds using the Pricescope search function. Did you just punch in the #s into the HCA tool? Or is there another way to look up Ritani diamonds by HCA? Thanks!
 
Unfortunately, the only way I've found to do it is to input the values into the HCA calculator per diamond.

Edit:

To answer your previous question, although I would love a BG Diamod , I am not willing to spend the extra money on it when I know there are other diamonds out there that I can search for, run through HCA, and get an idealscope on which will also be incredibly well cut and high performers and I won't have to pay such a premium for it. But again, that is a very personal choice and it's just my way of thinking. I don't really care about having something that is branded, I just care about the quality. If the quality is there and if I can get it for a better price, that's the purchase I'm going to want to make. But others are different, otherwise businesses like Tiffany's that are selling a brand would be out of business. Now this is just my 2 cents, but I would prefer an ideal cut I color diamond that's a bit bigger than a branded diamond that I'll have to go down to K color to get the same price (or more!). To me, it's worth it to put in the extra work and time to find a diamond that is an "ideal" cut but is not a branded stone. If your girlfriend wants to go a la Lauren Conrad (lol) you could probably be looking into J color (are complimented by yellow gold) as well and that will save you a bunch too :)
 
potatowned|1412728226|3763980 said:
I am in Southern California...

So, to those on the board, would you prefer a BG Blue (which I have read is a great value to those on the board):

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.501-k-si1-round-diamond-ags-bl-104072305016#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/1/

This is something with a much lower color than I was originally considering, but since I now know cut is king, and AGS0 is like greatly desired, would this be better than a GIA Excellent, with better clarity and color and an HCA score lower than 2? I have a feeling that you guys are going to tell me that I need an idealscope image to make the determination...

How about vs another AGS0 diamond that is smaller, but with better clarity and color? Ex: http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.208-h-si1-round-diamond-ags-bl-104072305011

My girlfriend wants this on a yellow gold setting, if it matters. Apparently Lauren Conrad has a yellow gold setting...
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First off, awesome username!

Regarding the color, there is no amount of sparkle that will make a K face-up like an H. You should read this thread: [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/a-k-facing-up-a-k.206795/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/a-k-facing-up-a-k.206795/[/URL]

There are some people who are just fine with an I-J-K, but to be conservative, people usually recommend not going lower than an H in color. You could also have your GF look at diamonds in person at a B&M store to see if she is color sensitive or not. Of course, you'd have to be comparing stones with comparable cuts.

Also, people usually recommend only buying online if they provide an i-scope or ASET image for you.
 
Hi, thanks for your response.

I was initially not going lower than an H, but as I read the forum, it seems like many give up color and clarity for size and an ideal cut. (HCA < 2)

My GF and I have looked at diamonds before and I hate to say it, but she is not color-sensitive, or anything sensitive but size-sensitive. (When friends get engaged, she is most impressed by the big rocks, even though I tell her a 2c can be bought relatively cheaply!) So while my initial inclination was go to with H, VS2, around a 1.3, I am now leaning towards I/J, SI1 at a 1.5. Particularly because the setting will be yellow gold.

I've reached out to a few of the online retailers asking for idealscope or ASET images. I am now also only looking at diamonds with HCA score below 2.

I am struggling with the color - but I think I am trying to get as near colorless as possible at 1.5, as long as it is eye-clean.

I hope this is a good strategy. Hopefully some of you guys can chime in, based on what I've told you about my GF's preferences!
 
That sounds like a good plan! With your budget you'll definitely be able to find what you want, there are many 1.5ct Js at that price point (and a J is still very white! Especially if she isn't color sensitive and it's set in yellow gold), now you just have to screen out the bad ones! Keep us updated! Btw - was that you that put the 1.5 I color diamond I posted on request? Hope it was! Things can get snatched pretty quickly if you don't reserve them.

You can also look through pricescope for "show me your Js set in platinum" and there's probably one for yellow gold too. It can help you get an idea of what it'll look like, most pictures don't do a diamon justice they're much more beautiful in person :love:

Lastly, don't judge size based on carat weight alone, look at the millimeter dimensions of the diamond, they're listed on the GIA report because diamonds can be the same carat weight but different sizes because of the way that weight is spread. The difference won't be huge but it's there.
 
It was :) Thank you for finding it! I hope it wasn't something you were planning to buy?

The Ritani rep is working on getting pictures for me. I'll post and get your guys' opinion!

Also, based on the info you provided, I started reading and I have been looking more at 60/60 diamonds due to the larger table and the greater overall diameter vs Tolk. I know that there are pros and cons of each, but I think the larger appearance of a 60/60 will be more what my GF is looking for. I am shooting for 7.5mm in size. Lots of the Tolk diamonds I see are 1.5c+ but only 7.3-7.4 in size!
 
potatowned|1412786339|3764326 said:
It was :) Thank you for finding it! I hope it wasn't something you were planning to buy?

The Ritani rep is working on getting pictures for me. I'll post and get your guys' opinion!

Also, based on the info you provided, I started reading and I have been looking more at 60/60 diamonds due to the larger table and the greater overall diameter vs Tolk. I know that there are pros and cons of each, but I think the larger appearance of a 60/60 will be more what my GF is looking for. I am shooting for 7.5mm in size. Lots of the Tolk diamonds I see are 1.5c+ but only 7.3-7.4 in size!
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Glad you were the one that reserved it! I already have my ring that diamond was all for you :)
The photos and videos that Ritani uses look nothing like the diamond in real life, the diamond is MUCH brighter and has much more fire in real life, it really does look 1000x better. I think they must do it with awful lightings or something I honestly don't know how they do it but I use their photos and videos to assess clarity more than anything. Their in store preview is really where you get to appreciate the diamond. My advice to you is to request the idealscope now, if they don't have the diamond in house and you decide you want to preview it in store ask them to run it through the idealscope when they receive the diamond and send you the images because they can't run a diamond through idealscope if it's set. II believe you can only use two store previews in total without purchasing the diamond. Also, a .1mm difference is not really noticeable to the naked eye so I don't think you'll necessarily be able to see the difference between a 7.5 and 7.4 especially at that size, but maybe someone else can also chime in on this. I really hope that "I" turns out to be a stunner, it's a great price, can't wait to see ur pics!
 
potatowned|1412725569|3763958 said:
Thanks Gypsy. Very thorough explanation. This is why AGS0 cost more, right? But it doesn't mean that the AGS0 stones are better than GIA excellent - I could potentially find a GIA excellent that will be comparable - I just need to check the HCA score and the idealscope images?

Will local jewelers have an ideascope? And be willing to analyze my diamond for me? I don't look forward to buying and idealscope and doing my own analysis, based on my limited knowledge.

Could you let me know what sites these are? "BGD, GOG, HPD, ERD and WF"
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Conceivably you can, but rarely can you. Most diamonds in that size range that will qualify for the AGS 0 cut grade will, in fact, have that AGS 0 cut grade. It sells for a premium over the same graded diamond from GIA with an Excellent cut grade because, unlike the GIA cut grade it actually means something.

Sadly, most will not, and even sadder, the majority of them will not even know what it is, let alone how to analyze their way out of a wet paper bag. It is one of the saddest things about my profession that so few of the "professionals' in the trade are actually professionals.

Most of the prosumers that you will converse with here actually know more about diamonds, and diamond cutting that 95% of the "sales associates" working in stores where they claim to be knowledgeable. I apologize for sounding so cranky. Just had to unlearn a client about some bold faced lies told to her at a local jewelers. (Having to do with older cut diamonds being worthless and sold for pennies on the dollar compared to a modern cut. It may have been true twenty years ago, but long since ceased to be true as the older cuts are now treasured by many.)

There are so many wonderful people in this trade. Too bad there are also way too many people who were selling ladies shoes last week that now call themselves knowledgeable jewelers.

Sigh.

Wink
 
But how would they know it could qualify for AGS0 until they grade it? Do they take GIA graded diamonds and then grade against AGS as well?

I thought that some diamonds are graded by GIA and some are graded by AGS and some are graded by the other labs. AGS0 is valuable because it has a set of standards that the diamond must adhere to in order to achieve the AGS0 rating. GIA excellents are not held to the same scale, so it becomes hit or miss whether or not it would qualify for AGS0. I could be totally wrong. This is just what I put together on my own.
 
I am currently looking at 4 diamonds. I have pictures on 2 and am hoping to get a pictures next week on the others. Please let me know your opinions as I really don't know much about how to analyze idealscope or ASET.

1. 1.6c, GIA XXX, J, SI1, no fluorescence, HCA of 1.7, 57% table, 62% depth, 35 degree crown, 40.8 pavilion $8270

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2. 1.49c, GIA XXX, J, VVS1, no fluorescence, HCA of 1.8, 59% table, 59.8% depth, 33.5 crown, 40.8 pavilion $7560

The jeweler pushed this diamond over option 1. He says both are eye clean, but this one is the better choice.
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this one also had idealscope:
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3. 1.54c, GIA XXX, J, VS1, strong blue fluorescence, HCA of 1.2, 59% table, 60.6% depth, 33.5 crown, 40.6 pavilion $8570

Images pending, but the lady on the phone pushed this one hard, saying that the proportions are very close to ideal. They are going to get images and a Sarin Report for me.
Link to diamond and GIA report: http://www.ritani.com/diamonds/round-diamond-1-54-Carat-J-color-GIA-certified/D-3SM7F3?search_key=D-3SM7F3

4. 1.5c, GIA XXX, I, VS2, strong blue fluorescence, HCA of 1.8, 61% table, 58.9% depth, 32.5 crown, 40.8 pavilion $8100

They won't provide ASET or IS on this one, but they did take a video for me. It's at the link below.
Link: http://www.ritani.com/diamonds/round-diamond-1-50-Carat-I-color-GIA-certified/D-3H9PJY?cvosrc=email.sgrid.em-vg-ir&utm_campaign=em-vg-ir&utm_medium=email&utm_source=sgrid

Could I narrow these down? I know it's a matter of personal preference but I would be interested to hear opinions and what you guys think! This will be going into a yellow gold solitaire setting.

THANKS!!!!!!
 
Any feedback? I would like to make a decision tomorrow... my holds are only good for 24 hours!! (And I need the diamond by next weekend. It's our 6 year anniversary and we have a trip planned!)

Sorry to be a pest.
 
I wouldn't touch #4 with a 10ft pole. A large table with a flat top 12.5% crown height.. :knockout:
 
Yikes! Ok, thanks. I didn't even know that was a bad thing!

Is 12.5% in crown height too shallow? I should look for something with a greater percentage?

What do you think about the other choices?
 
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