Another Tiffany and co post.....

[Izbiz24]

Hi guys! I’m new to this forum so I’m sorry if a post like this has been made.
So..my partner and I recently started talking engagement rings, I told him we could look at some local jewellers to get an idea and maybe look into custom? Which we did

However he was and still is adamant on Tiffany and Co.

iv seen a lot, ALOT of controversy on Tiffany, comments from you can get a bigger diamond elsewhere for half the price, to “I think people who buy engagement rings from Tiffany are idiots”.
Bringing up rings again my partner ended up getting upset with me saying he’s been into Tiffany without me and picked a ring which is currently on hold. Apart of me feels special that a man would actually want to spend that money on me, but another part of me is unsure and doesn’t want to seem bratty pushing him into a custom to get a bigger stone for less.
A ring we saw when we went to Tiffany together was a 1.30 carat Tiffany setting, The stats that I remember was a colour H and a VVS2 clarity

I’m not sure if he’s chosen a ring bigger or less carat then that as we were just getting ideas.

I don’t actually know what I’m asking? Maybe to see others Tiffany engagement rings? Maybe hearing the pros and cons?

Any info on the upgrade you can apparently do?

I feel terrible that I have to second guess an engagement ring my partner wants to buy, but since researching etc I’m really on the fence now with Tiffany

Any advice or info would be greatly appreciative! Thanks for taking the time to read

 

[twosanguinehearts]

Hi guys! I’m new to this forum so I’m sorry if a post like this has been made.
So..my partner and I recently started talking engagement rings, I told him we could look at some local jewellers to get an idea and maybe look into custom? Which we did

However he was and still is adamant on Tiffany and Co.

iv seen a lot, ALOT of controversy on Tiffany, comments from you can get a bigger diamond elsewhere for half the price, to “I think people who buy engagement rings from Tiffany are idiots”.
Bringing up rings again my partner ended up getting upset with me saying he’s been into Tiffany without me and picked a ring which is currently on hold. Apart of me feels special that a man would actually want to spend that money on me, but another part of me is unsure and doesn’t want to seem bratty pushing him into a custom to get a bigger stone for less.
A ring we saw when we went to Tiffany together was a 1.30 carat Tiffany setting, The stats that I remember was a colour H and a VVS2 clarity

I’m not sure if he’s chosen a ring bigger or less carat then that as we were just getting ideas.

I don’t actually know what I’m asking? Maybe to see others Tiffany engagement rings? Maybe hearing the pros and cons?

Any info on the upgrade you can apparently do?

I feel terrible that I have to second guess an engagement ring my partner wants to buy, but since researching etc I’m really on the fence now with Tiffany

Any advice or info would be greatly appreciative! Thanks for taking the time to read

Hi! First of all congratulations on your upcoming engagement!

Do you know why your bf is so set on Tiffany? He will 100% be paying a significant markup to buy from them. He can absolutely find a diamond that’s better (all around) for much less!

Would he be open to buying from a widely trusted diamond vendor recommended by this Pricescope community? Whiteflash has super ideal cut diamonds that are considered to be among the very best available, and they also have a lifetime upgrade program should you ever feel the need to do so for an anniversary, etc. They also have a setting that is just like the classic Tiffany 6-prong so it would be the best of both worlds!

 

[Snowdrop13]

We’ve had a few posts where the person who is going to be wearing the ring is the one dead set on Tiffany, in that case I’d say go for it! However, I would tend to agree that you could likely find a bigger, superideal cut diamond for less money. Do some research into the cut of diamonds. Maybe you’d be able to persuade your very lovely partner if you could show him what great diamonds are out there?

I can’t see an exact comparison diamond but here’s a close one for a bit of price reference.

Diamond | 1.340 ct G VS1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4187456

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.340 carat G color VS1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4187456

www.whiteflash.com

 

[LilAlex]

However he was and still is adamant on Tiffany and Co.

Congrats!

I get it if this were a surprise and someone other than you could not talk him out of Tiffany. But if you two are actively talking about your engagement ring, I think at that point you get a vote.

Speaking from experience -- I bought one of these once.

EDIT: Best possible spin: someone spent two hours with him going over the ins and outs of diamonds and why this one is the best and this is the ring she must have, etc. I have felt a lot of pressure in jewelry stores in my younger days. It's kinda like walking into VS -- it seemed like a good idea but then...

 

[Izbiz24]

Hi! First of all congratulations on your upcoming engagement!

Do you know why your bf is so set on Tiffany? He will 100% be paying a significant markup to buy from them. He can absolutely find a diamond that’s better (all around) for much less!

Would he be open to buying from a widely trusted diamond vendor recommended by this Pricescope community? Whiteflash has super ideal cut diamonds that are considered to be among the very best available, and they also have a lifetime upgrade program should you ever feel the need to do so for an anniversary, etc. They also have a setting that is just like the classic Tiffany 6-prong so it would be the best of both worlds!

Thankyou so much

Hi! First of all congratulations on your upcoming engagement!

Do you know why your bf is so set on Tiffany? He will 100% be paying a significant markup to buy from them. He can absolutely find a diamond that’s better (all around) for much less!

Would he be open to buying from a widely trusted diamond vendor recommended by this Pricescope community? Whiteflash has super ideal cut diamonds that are considered to be among the very best available, and they also have a lifetime upgrade program should you ever feel the need to do so for an anniversary, etc. They also have a setting that is just like the classic Tiffany 6-prong so it would be the best of both worlds!

thank you so much
I honestly have no idea, I think it could be sentimental? I told him randomly when we first started dating that my dream was the Tiffany and co toggle necklace, he ended up buying it for me at Christmas. Also the sales representative has grown on him well us because I met him when we first looked, and now his heart is just set on this ring!
I don’t want to see ungrateful at all But from what iv seen people are turning me off the brand

Just had a look at Whiteflash and wow! I love the clips showing the diamonds performance! I think I’ll be sending this page to my boyfriend

 

[Izbiz24]

We’ve had a few posts where the person who is going to be wearing the ring is the one dead set on Tiffany, in that case I’d say go for it! However, I would tend to agree that you could likely find a bigger, superideal cut diamond for less money. Do some research into the cut of diamonds. Maybe you’d be able to persuade your very lovely partner if you could show him what great diamonds are out there?

I can’t see an exact comparison diamond but here’s a close one for a bit of price reference.

Diamond | 1.340 ct G VS1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4187456

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.340 carat G color VS1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4187456

www.whiteflash.com

The price is very different ! The rings we looked at ranged between 20k-35k Aus !
It’s a lot of money and it honestly makes me feel a little uncomfortable! So if he is going to do that I want it to be worth it.
I think I might find some bigger carat ones for half the price and just send them so he can see the price difference because it is insane! Thanks for the comparison! Definitely have a lot to think about

 

[Izbiz24]

Congrats!

I get it if this were a surprise and someone other than you could not talk him out of Tiffany. But if you two are actively talking about your engagement ring, I think at that point you get a vote.

Speaking from experience -- I bought one of these once.

EDIT: Best possible spin: someone spent two hours with him going over the ins and outs of diamonds and why this one is the best and this is the ring she must have, etc. I have felt a lot of pressure in jewelry stores in my younger days. It's kinda like walking into VS -- it seemed like a good idea but then...

Thankyou
I have to agree with you! If he had surprised me I’d have loved it and not questioned! But because he’s involving me and I’m starting to do research too it’s giving me a headache with the price and all the other size comparisons etc I didn’t think looking at diamonds would get so exhausting haha

I feel like we get that when we walk into certain stores, we are both almost 28 but have such baby faces so I feel like we get dumbed down a bit or take advantage of because they don’t immediately know our age. If Tiffany is what he wants I just really want it to be completely worth it

 

[FL_runner]

Tiffany has some beautiful workmanship, but I agree you will get a lot more bang for your buck if you look elsewhere- Whiteflash is a great choice and they have a great upgrade program. Especially if you want a simple solitaire I think it makes a lot of financial sense to go elsewhere for your engagement ring. Since you are not the one set of Tiffany and you are the one who will be wearing the ring, I’d consider shopping around. You and your husband could always pick out wedding bands at Tiffany! Those tend to be more “reasonable” on the price scale and you would have the fun of looking together.

 

[twosanguinehearts]

Tiffany has some beautiful workmanship, but I agree you will get a lot more bang for your buck if you look elsewhere- Whiteflash is a great choice and they have a great upgrade program. Especially if you want a simple solitaire I think it makes a lot of financial sense to go elsewhere for your engagement ring. Since you are not the one set of Tiffany and you are the one who will be wearing the ring, I’d consider shopping around. You and your husband could always pick out wedding bands at Tiffany! Those tend to be more “reasonable” on the price scale and you would have the fun of looking together.

I love this idea! Get your wedding band from Tiffany and you have the perfect compromise!!

 

[twosanguinehearts]

Thankyou so much


thank you so much
I honestly have no idea, I think it could be sentimental? I told him randomly when we first started dating that my dream was the Tiffany and co toggle necklace, he ended up buying it for me at Christmas. Also the sales representative has grown on him well us because I met him when we first looked, and now his heart is just set on this ring!
I don’t want to see ungrateful at all But from what iv seen people are turning me off the brand

Just had a look at Whiteflash and wow! I love the clips showing the diamonds performance! I think I’ll be sending this page to my boyfriend

One other thing re: Whiteflash - make sure you’re checking “in house” when you search, as those are the diamonds they carry onsite and are eligible for lifetime upgrades. You can’t go wrong with their A Cut Above line!!

 

[yyc_la_signa]

Congratulations @Izbiz24! How exciting.

I actually like Tiffany because of the added prestige and brand name factor. That being said with our 12K USD budget I couldn't afford the ring I wanted at Tiffany. I ended up getting a custom made Tiffany inspired ring which is in my avatar. Tiffany has beautiful engagement rings but I think you're paying for the name, experience and brand not actual product. For many the experience of picking their ring from Tiffany and going in to have it serviced it special. And I think that's okay if its important to you but it sounds like it's not.

Like many here will say you will get a more stunning diamond with vendors like Whiteflash.

I would try to understand why he's so adamant? Does he want to be able to say he got you a Tiffany? Or is the the style?

I think you need to tell him that bigger carat is more important than the brand for you and since you're wearing it forever you should have a vote.

I do like the compromise of getting Tiffany wedding bands.

@LilAlex had a great suggestion on helping your boyfriend understand diamonds. That might sway him...

Good luck!!! Very exciting.

 

[Txborn79]

I think you need to tell him that bigger carat is more important than the brand for you and since you're wearing it forever you should have a vote.

This and also you will most likely get a better cut by going with WF, VC, HPD, or BGD which to me is the most important thing in a diamond as that’s what determines the sparkle.

 

[AnastasiaBeaverhausen]

I get that a Tiffany & Co. ring might not be the most bang for your buck. But if it's financially feasible for you guys and it's a beautiful ring, it's not a terrible choice either.

Guess my question is, what exactly bothers you about having a ring from Tiffany & Co? Is it you'd rather save the $ for something else? Get a bigger stone? I'd have a conversation around that. Might be easier for your partner to understand and he'll probably feel less defensive about his choice?

 

[ringo865]

Congratulations on your upcoming engagement. I’m probably going to be too blunt, but I have also fallen for the “roll over and let my man take charge of things when I have my own (opposite) opinions” scenario. It’s bad precedent.

Anyway, if he ”must have” Tiffany, then explain that by all means, he should pick out his own ring from there. But, you should get what YOU want. If you want a bigger, better cut, less expensive, whiter, or whatever, ring from WF, HPD, etc., (with a better trade up policy... just sayin’), then you should let him know that those things are more important to YOU than having a Tiffany brand. If you/he love the style of setting of a Tiffany, many, probably all, major retailers offer a Tiffany-style setting. You can always add a beautiful band from T&C (if you want),

Basically, you need to have conversations about things, even things that seem disagreeable, if you are going to hitch up to each other for the next 70 years. Compromise and all that.

 

[yyc_la_signa]

Anyway, if he ”must have” Tiffany, then explain that by all means, he should pick out his own ring from there. But, you should get what YOU want.

OMG! I love this @ringo865 - 100% agree!

 

[Vogue]

Congratulations on your upcoming engagement. I’m probably going to be too blunt, but I have also fallen for the “roll over and let my man take charge of things when I have my own (opposite) opinions” scenario. It’s bad precedent.

Anyway, if he ”must have” Tiffany, then explain that by all means, he should pick out his own ring from there. But, you should get what YOU want. If you want a bigger, better cut, less expensive, whiter, or whatever, ring from WF, HPD, etc., (with a better trade up policy... just sayin’), then you should let him know that those things are more important to YOU than having a Tiffany brand. If you/he love the style of setting of a Tiffany, many, probably all, major retailers offer a Tiffany-style setting. You can always add a beautiful band from T&C (if you want),

Basically, you need to have conversations about things, even things that seem disagreeable, if you are going to hitch up to each other for the next 70 years. Compromise and all that.

100% co-signed, especially since this also seems to be a matter of finances. I know that engagement rings are emotional purchases, and he might want to be able to tell the world that he got you a Tiffany ring. However, that doesn't seem to be what you care about, and if you're nervous about spending that much money, you should listen to those feelings. If you're both on the same page about spending money on a ring, then hopefully you'll be on the same page about buying a car, a house, retirement, or a college education for your potential kid(s).

Anyway, that got way more serious than you might have been looking for! For real, congratulations on your upcoming engagement, and I think that Tiffany wedding band is a great idea

 

[AprilBaby]

Make sure he understands the upgrade policy at WF and Tiffany.

 

[Iwanttosparkle]

I live in a small town in the south. I have never been to a Tiffany's nor is there one around where I live so I don't have the connotations that others have with the store itself. All I know is that I enjoy the aesthetic of their solitaire from photos I have seen in magazines and here and online in other places. It seems very classic to me. After much research I ended up getting a 1.22 carat ACA (A Cut Above is the name of their ideal cut branded diamonds) from Whiteflash and had it put in the Vatche U-113 solitaire setting which they carry. I saved money, got the look I wanted, and got an ideal cut diamond. It is the ring in my avatar.

I don't know what setting you and your boyfriend are considering, but if it is the solitaire, there are several Vatche U-113 threads here on pricescope if you want to do a search for them in the search box. I relied a lot on the information in those threads when choosing my setting. At that time, when I was doing my research, the consensus seemed to be that the Vatche U-113 offered the closest look to the Tiffany. There's a story somewhere on here about a lady who wore this ring into a Tiffany's and the SA offered to clean her ring. The lady declined but made the point that even the Tiffany SA thought it was a Tiffany. But it is just one of several Tiffany-esque settings at Whiteflash and other places. I think no matter which vendor you go with, you will be able to find something very, very close in appearance to the Tiffany brand.

And I just have to say that I totally get it about the diamond videos. I am an introverted person by nature and was always intimidated by my local jewelry store associates. I greatly enjoyed the online experience of being able to see in the enlarged videos exactly what I was buying without the pressure of subconsciously trying to please or having to agree with a sales associate staring at me while I try to make a decision. I never found anyone at Whiteflash to be pushy, which I apprecisted, because major purchases like this are stressful enough already.

 

[munchee]

I’m sorry I have a different perspective with other ladies here.
For me, ER is for me, but its my DH money and before we got married its his own money, not our money. So I’m not entitled of whatever he spend before we got married. If he ended up getting my dream ring, perfect! If he doesn’t, oh well, he’s not obligated to gave me a diamond ring anyway. He did a lot of research to make me happy, if it didn’t ended up as I wished, I’ll still appreciate his effort and be thankful of whatever it is. If I want to get my dream ring, I’ll get it myself My DH thoughtfulness when he thought I’ll be happy with what he was getting me and how happy he was whenever I told him that I’m happy about the ER that he got me is priceless.

 

[Redwoods-hiker-girl]

I share the same perspective, @munchee. I'd rather it be a surprise, honestly.

 

[123ducklings]

I get that a Tiffany & Co. ring might not be the most bang for your buck. But if it's financially feasible for you guys and it's a beautiful ring, it's not a terrible choice either.

Guess my question is, what exactly bothers you about having a ring from Tiffany & Co? Is it you'd rather save the $ for something else? Get a bigger stone? I'd have a conversation around that. Might be easier for your partner to understand and he'll probably feel less defensive about his choice?

I totally agree with the above.

Congrats! Sounds like an exciting time in your life and relationship!

The impression that I got from your post was that you are unsure, rather than that you don’t want a Tiffany ring. To that I say: My husband has bought me jewelry from Tiffany before. I love it; it’s beautiful and well made. He enjoyed giving it to me. It’s true that he might have spent the money on something bigger/different/also wonderful, but can’t we say that about any purchase?

 

[flyingpig]

You certainly can get an objectively better diamond for 1/2 the price of Tiffany. This is a fact
Question is how would you be willing to pay for the brand, setting, customer service, experience? That is different for each person.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I will say that Whiteflash is a far better choice. Higher quality diamonds for the most part, you can get a diamond twice the size for the same amount of money, they have Tiffany repro settings, and the upgrade policy is far better than Tiffany which requires you spend double! At WF you can upgrade to any stone that costs any amount more than the original and get full credit for the first diamond minus shipping costs. You can do that multiple times if you want!

I have been wearing a Tiffany repro engagement ring for several years, and I have a real Tiffany wedding band. I'd save the Tiffany experience for wedding band shopping, personally. Their bands are high, but not nearly as much as the diamond engagement rings.

I very much feel that a man should want to do whatever he can to give the woman exactly what she'd love the most. It is somewhat self centered for the guy to have an idea of what HE thinks she should have without her having any input (if she wishes to have input). In a marriage, I certainly wouldn't go out and surprise my husband with a car that I really love without regard for what he'd really love! This is a ring you hopefully will wear a very long time, so he should be listening to your desires. I'd personally try sending him some links so he can see the price difference. WF does plenty of international sales.

Here's a selection you could show him:

Round Cut Diamonds: Discover Our Brilliant Selection

View our wide selection of Round Cut Diamonds. Choose your ideal diamond combining quality, price, 4cs and more.

www.whiteflash.com

 

[yyc_la_signa]

You certainly can get an objectively better diamond for 1/2 the price of Tiffany. This is a fact
Question is how would you be willing to pay for the brand, setting, customer service, experience? That is different for each person.

Agreed! And that is not to say you can't get that customer service and experience elsewhere...I think its the prestige factor as well for Tiffany.

I had my recent upgrade set by David Klass, the experience and customer service was so amazing. Also having that personal relationship with my jeweler is very special to me. I look forward to visiting them again to have my rings cleaned!

 

[Bron357]

congratulations on your upcoming engagement.
You are getting married, now is not the time to be silent when you have reservations. It’s not about you being a brat or picky, it’s about him spending many many thousands on a ring for you and you wanting to make sure it represents good value for money. That’s sensible.
Tiffany rings are lovely and the whole experience can be marvellous BUT you are paying a significant premium for the Tiffany brand.
Diamonds from Tiffany will be good, but not necessarily great. If you look at the HCA tool and various threads on cut % figures you begin to appreciate that colour and clarity are only part of the equation when it comes to diamonds.
Diamonds sparkle, that’s why we love them.
Diamonds cut ok sparkle ok while Diamonds cut very well sparkle very well. And it’s noticable.
Many will say, compromise a bit on the colour, compromise a bit on the clarity but don’t compromise on cut. And certainly anyone admiring your ring from polite viewing distance won’t be able to tell a G from an H or 1, a VVS2 from an Si2 but a great sparkle is never not seen or appreciated.