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Are GIA Certs from different countries not as strict as US GIA Cert?

If they were a private corporation paying taxes that would be fair Bryan.
Have not checked if they are half or more billion dollars lately but they have a business not unlike Google, FB etc and are an essential monopoly who don't pay taxes

Very good point! As a consumer, I only care about accuracy no matter how it is achieved.

I understand from your post that you work for Whiteflash. I was deciding between Whiteflash and BG when ordering my wedding band and ultimately chose BG because I liked their settings more. I paid extra for colorless diamonds and was expecting Van Cleef color melee (I own a few pieces of Van Cleef with gorgeous colorless melee and wanted melee of the same quality. BG promised that quality but I was disappointed.

I also want a .20 pointer diamond tennis bracelet in colorless diamonds eventually. I love a handmade setting that BG has for an extra cost but afraid to order the piece from them because I was not happy with my wedding band. I wish that Whiteflash had custom handmade settings for more expensive pieces but that is not the case. Hopefully one day the company will reconsider having more bespoke settings.
 
Only Clarity is done by people at GIA these days. Does not matter for Cut, Carat, Color, Fluoro etc
With all do respect, I spent a lot of money and time studying how to evaluate cut, carat, color, fluorescence, etc at GIA. Can you please elaborate?
 
Thanks Garry H! I never realized that only clarity is done by people at GIA. It would be nice if these agencies were more transparent.

No pun intended?
 
With all do respect, I spent a lot of money and time studying how to evaluate cut, carat, color, fluorescence, etc at GIA. Can you please elaborate?

GIA are currently working on a digital clarity system too with IBM - google it
 
GIA are currently working on a digital clarity system too with IBM - google it

Thanks for the info. I just read it. Glad to see humans will still have a place in the grading process.
 
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Thanks for the info. I just read it. Glad to see humans will still have a place in the grading process.
For now - but its a hard problem because at the low end its about what % of the diamond is included, independent of the diamonds size.
At the upper end its the size of the inclusion.
In the middle is a conundrum.

Have you had a guess at the clarity Quizz DG?
 
For now - but its a hard problem because at the low end its about what % of the diamond is included, independent of the diamonds size.
At the upper end its the size of the inclusion.
In the middle is a conundrum.

Have you had a guess at the clarity Quizz DG?

Ah yes, it will be interesting to see how this plays out.

I personally would have called it a GIA I1, but then again, I often graded clarity too harshly. SI1 or SI2 perhaps?
 
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With all do respect, I spent a lot of money and time studying how to evaluate cut, carat, color, fluorescence, etc at GIA. Can you please elaborate?

Me too. What they do in the GIA lab is not the same as what they teach in the GIA school.
 
Me too. What they do in the GIA lab is not the same as what they teach in the GIA school.

I wish I could sneak into the lab and have a peek at the whole process. Thanks for sharing.
 
They occasionally offer tours. I did one in conjunction with an advanced gemology course I took on the Carlsbad campus a few years ago. I think if you take on-campus courses from them you get this opportunity. They won't show you everything, but they'll show you quite a bit. I don't think you'll get the whole tour even if you work there.
 
They occasionally offer tours. I did one in conjunction with an advanced gemology course I took on the Carlsbad campus a few years ago. I think if you take on-campus courses from them you get this opportunity. They won't show you everything, but they'll show you quite a bit. I don't think you'll get the whole tour even if you work there.

Thanks for the info. The security was crazy when I took the lab classes. I can't imagine what it's like to get into the actual labs.
 
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