BIGGEST piece of POOP EVER!

[Sapphire_Cutie]

Date: 4/10/2008 7:07:36 PM
Author: CrookedRock
Sapphire~ In all honesty this has happened with Holly before and after pointing out to her that she was slightly out of line she came back and made some very helpful points. She was condescending, and has been in the past. And I will say that I took it that way. I was not saying that you were doubting her at all. I just wanted to point out to her that she wasn''t exactly being nice, and with any luck she will rethink what she was saying and word it better.

No Problem...I get that. Thanks

 

[Sapphire_Cutie]

Date: 4/10/2008 7:22:37 PM
Author: Smurfysmiles
boy have i missed a lot not being around ps
hmmm *makes some popcorn and settles down for what may be a long thread*

Smurfy: LOL you are deffinatly full of fire sometimes and REALLY funny. I like reading your posts and you seem really sweet and helpful

 

[Smurfysmiles]

Date: 4/10/2008 7:41:58 PM
Author: Sapphire_Cutie

Date: 4/10/2008 7:22:37 PM

Smurfy: LOL you are deffinatly full of fire sometimes and REALLY funny. I like reading your posts and you seem really sweet and helpful

awww thanks just for that i''ll share my popcorn with you

 

[Sapphire_Cutie]

Date: 4/10/2008 7:51:57 PM
Author: Smurfysmiles

Date: 4/10/2008 7:41:58 PM
Author: Sapphire_Cutie

Date: 4/10/2008 7:22:37 PM

Smurfy: LOL you are deffinatly full of fire sometimes and REALLY funny. I like reading your posts and you seem really sweet and helpful

awww thanks just for that i''ll share my popcorn with you

LMAO! does it have butter or is it salted even? I mean hell if imma sit here and watch this with ya at what could very well be at MY expence LOL it BETTER be DAMN good popcorn! LOL

 

[Dee*Jay]

Date: 4/10/2008 8:02:18 PM
Author: Sapphire_Cutie

Date: 4/10/2008 7:51:57 PM
Author: Smurfysmiles

Date: 4/10/2008 7:41:58 PM
Author: Sapphire_Cutie

Date: 4/10/2008 7:22:37 PM

Smurfy: LOL you are deffinatly full of fire sometimes and REALLY funny. I like reading your posts and you seem really sweet and helpful

awww thanks just for that i''ll share my popcorn with you

LMAO! does it have butter or is it salted even? I mean hell if imma sit here and watch this with ya at what could very well be at MY expence LOL it BETTER be DAMN good popcorn! LOL

Popcorn is fine and all... but I''m going to open a bottle of wine! Who wants a glass?

 

[LaraOnline]

Hey Sapphire

I know I''m weighing in late, and that you''re probably already laughing about it now, but you should really try not to be so hard on yourself. It''s a lovely, funny story, it''s rather sweet actually. So don''t be down anymore! If you still are, that is! The shop keeper conspired as well, I see!

Well, both those boys (was the shop keeper a man?) should have known that you would be upset! I see this story as a classic case of men misunderstanding women! It was a nasty trick to play on you, even if he meant it all in fun. haha, the joke was on both of you, and at least he can be reassured that you really like the ring!

 

[Smurfysmiles]

its low fat with butter but i have the stuff they have at movie theatres to sprinkle on it, im using the carmel flavor on mine, yummmmmmmmmmm
and of course fruit punch crystal light

 

[partgypsy]

Sapphire cutie, if it makes you feel any better it totally sounds like something I imagine I would have done and I''m ahem a little older than you. My husband is very bad at procrastinating on anything that requires planning/scheduling, making phone calls, and (anything other than grocery) shopping. If I ask him to do something in that arena he will agree to do it, but never get around to it. There have been times where I have blown my top when there is something he agreed to do (such as for our daughter''s school) and I find out after the fact he blew it off. Anyways I totally sympathize.

ps- for myself, I realize if it is important to me, I need to save myself the wear and tear do it myself, such as scheduling doctor''s appointments, buying snacks for school, signing field trip slips, making vacation plans, etc.

 

[HollyS]

Date: 4/10/2008 7:07:36 PM
Author: CrookedRock
Sapphire~ In all honesty this has happened with Holly before and after pointing out to her that she was slightly out of line she came back and made some very helpful points. She was condescending, and has been in the past. And I will say that I took it that way. I was not saying that you were doubting her at all. I just wanted to point out to her that she wasn''t exactly being nice, and with any luck she will rethink what she was saying and word it better.

I don''t believe I need to reword my post. I was pointing out -- again -- that sometimes we create our own problems by throwing these hissy fits. It has been a reoccuring theme here in LIW. Then the LIW flogs herself for having been ugly to her BF and has to live down the moment. A moment that could have been avoided had the LIW read any previous similiar posts and learned from someone else''s faux pas. I believe purrfectpear has understood exactly what my post is about.

As for being older -- I am. Lots. I have a different perspective; I very often can see silliness for what it is . . . silliness borne of either immaturity or inexperience. But perhaps you''re right. Maybe you gals just want to come here to be reassured; and then along comes Holly, and she''s at it again. Darn her for pointing out those obvious life lessons that just might help another LIW. Very few people seem to be applying these lessons though, so perhaps I''ll just restrain from motherly advice and be quiet. . .

And, uh, besides . . . I did wish the original poster well and compliment her on what is obvously a beautiful ring. It is a beautiful ring; and I sincerely hope that she enjoys herself when she finally receives it.

CrookedRock, it isn''t your job to critique anyone''s (response) posts. And stop taking umbrage on behalf of others; they can speak for themselves.

 

[ladypirate]

Date: 4/10/2008 8:15:58 PM
Author: Dee*Jay

Date: 4/10/2008 8:02:18 PM

Author: Sapphire_Cutie

Date: 4/10/2008 7:51:57 PM

Author: Smurfysmiles

Date: 4/10/2008 7:41:58 PM

Author: Sapphire_Cutie

Date: 4/10/2008 7:22:37 PM


Smurfy: LOL you are deffinatly full of fire sometimes and REALLY funny. I like reading your posts and you seem really sweet and helpful

awww thanks just for that i''ll share my popcorn with you

LMAO! does it have butter or is it salted even? I mean hell if imma sit here and watch this with ya at what could very well be at MY expence LOL it BETTER be DAMN good popcorn! LOL

Popcorn is fine and all... but I''m going to open a bottle of wine! Who wants a glass?

Oh, I do! I do!

We''re planning on opening a pinot tonight--yum!

 

[CrookedRock]

Date: 4/11/2008 5:26:54 PM
Author: HollyS

Date: 4/10/2008 7:07:36 PM
Author: CrookedRock
Sapphire~ In all honesty this has happened with Holly before and after pointing out to her that she was slightly out of line she came back and made some very helpful points. She was condescending, and has been in the past. And I will say that I took it that way. I was not saying that you were doubting her at all. I just wanted to point out to her that she wasn't exactly being nice, and with any luck she will rethink what she was saying and word it better.

I don't believe I need to reword my post. I was pointing out -- again -- that sometimes we create our own problems by throwing these hissy fits. It has been a reoccuring theme here in LIW. Then the LIW flogs herself for having been ugly to her BF and has to live down the moment. A moment that could have been avoided had the LIW read any previous similiar posts and learned from someone else's faux pas. I believe purrfectpear has understood exactly what my post is about.

As for being older -- I am. Lots. I have a different perspective; I very often can see silliness for what it is . . . silliness borne of either immaturity or inexperience. But perhaps you're right. Maybe you gals just want to come here to be reassured; and then along comes Holly, and she's at it again. Darn her for pointing out those obvious life lessons that just might help another LIW. Very few people seem to be applying these lessons though, so perhaps I'll just restrain from motherly advice and be quiet. . .

And, uh, besides . . . I did wish the original poster well and compliment her on what is obvously a beautiful ring. It is a beautiful ring; and I sincerely hope that she enjoys herself when she finally receives it.

CrookedRock, it isn't your job to critique anyone's (response) posts. And stop taking umbrage on behalf of others; they can speak for themselves.

I was speaking fo rmyself. Thanks though! Unbelievable, but not shocking...

I think this was one of your last posts in another thread...

As for the rest of us PSers, the little minor incoveniences we might have gotten snippy about today seem really small by comparison. Think I'll stop now and count my blessings.

HHMMMM....

 

[CrookedRock]

Sapphire... I just wanted to say that the ring is gorgeous! I love antique-y rings... I even wear one that used to belong to my great great aunt everyday, and I just love the look of them. I actually thought your story was kinda funny... It just proves how anxious we all can get! It will make for a cute story down the road after a few more life milestones have passed. Enjoy the rest of your time as a girlfriend bc it doesn''t sound like it will be much longer! Congrats and keep us posted!!!

 

[FrekeChild]

Date: 4/8/2008 7:38:18 PM
Author: HollyS
Maybe you need to be older to have a little more perspective and more self-control . . . I dunno. But, all the way through your post, I was thinking, ''I''ll bet money he bought the ring and wants to surprise her with it.'' Sho nuff, he did.

This is one of many reasons why you LIWs need to be less aggressive and emotional about rings and proposals. Give your guy a chance to do something nice for you, without all the needless drama. How many times does a scenario like this need to be relayed to everyone here before you all take note?

I sincerely hope the two of you can laugh off that ''proposal'' and not let it be a bad memory of what might have been a lovely moment. It sounds like a beautiful ring, and I''m sure (if you''ll let him

) he will present it at a much more romantic opportunity. So wait patiently like a good girl and don''t ask too many questions, okay?

I almost hate to say it because it seems as though it will be the dissenting opinion, but I agree with Holly''s post. Except for the older part because I''m only 25(for ten more days). But she''s right, the ring doesn''t matter, it''s the relationship with your (the collective your) FF that is what really counts. I thought the same thing that Holly did when I was first reading the OP-"He bought it for her. What a sweet surprise."

I know what it''s like to set your mind to wanting something, but you have to think about it-what if your BF hadn''t managed to buy it before someone else. Yes it would have hurt, but you would have HAD to get over it. I went through this not long ago because I thought Tiffany had stopped selling the Elsa Peretti tsavorite stacking ring-it totally disappeared from their website-JUST after we had been in Vegas and been able to purchase it in real life. Luckily, it''s back-and maybe BF got it for me for my b-day. But if he didn''t, and I couldn''t find it again, I''d just have to get it custom made eventually.

In the end, it''s really not the ring that is important. Yes, I''d love my blue topaz 3ct oval, but I''d be thrilled with a plain 2mm band, or even a piece of string.

Perhaps this perspective has been gained from a week of watching my mom suffer in a hospital room and know fully that she wants me to be engaged or married before something happens to her-and knowing that she never got an e-ring because she didn''t need or truly want one.

Holly and I have certainly had our differences, probably over this same topic, but now I see. And I''d like to give her mad props (hee hee) for continuing to come to the LIW and give her honest opinion time and time again, even amongst the bashing. Because, like it or not, she''s got a point.

In the end it makes a lovely story that you''ll be able to share with your children and grandchildren. And that is wonderful.

 

[Skippy123]

ooooo pretty ring; I love the detail. I would have stressed too once upon a time, honestly. hehee
I think we forgot what it takes to get to where we are today.

DeeJay, I will take some of that wine; Dee serves the good stuff

 

[Sapphire_Cutie]

Date: 4/12/2008 4:47:24 PM
Author: FrekeChild

Date: 4/8/2008 7:38:18 PM
Author: HollyS
Maybe you need to be older to have a little more perspective and more self-control . . . I dunno. But, all the way through your post, I was thinking, ''I''ll bet money he bought the ring and wants to surprise her with it.'' Sho nuff, he did.

This is one of many reasons why you LIWs need to be less aggressive and emotional about rings and proposals. Give your guy a chance to do something nice for you, without all the needless drama. How many times does a scenario like this need to be relayed to everyone here before you all take note?

I sincerely hope the two of you can laugh off that ''proposal'' and not let it be a bad memory of what might have been a lovely moment. It sounds like a beautiful ring, and I''m sure (if you''ll let him

) he will present it at a much more romantic opportunity. So wait patiently like a good girl and don''t ask too many questions, okay?

I almost hate to say it because it seems as though it will be the dissenting opinion, but I agree with Holly''s post. Except for the older part because I''m only 25(for ten more days). But she''s right, the ring doesn''t matter, it''s the relationship with your (the collective your) FF that is what really counts. I thought the same thing that Holly did when I was first reading the OP-''He bought it for her. What a sweet surprise.''

I know what it''s like to set your mind to wanting something, but you have to think about it-what if your BF hadn''t managed to buy it before someone else. Yes it would have hurt, but you would have HAD to get over it. I went through this not long ago because I thought Tiffany had stopped selling the Elsa Peretti tsavorite stacking ring-it totally disappeared from their website-JUST after we had been in Vegas and been able to purchase it in real life. Luckily, it''s back-and maybe BF got it for me for my b-day. But if he didn''t, and I couldn''t find it again, I''d just have to get it custom made eventually.

In the end, it''s really not the ring that is important. Yes, I''d love my blue topaz 3ct oval, but I''d be thrilled with a plain 2mm band, or even a piece of string.

Perhaps this perspective has been gained from a week of watching my mom suffer in a hospital room and know fully that she wants me to be engaged or married before something happens to her-and knowing that she never got an e-ring because she didn''t need or truly want one.

Holly and I have certainly had our differences, probably over this same topic, but now I see. And I''d like to give her mad props (hee hee) for continuing to come to the LIW and give her honest opinion time and time again, even amongst the bashing. Because, like it or not, she''s got a point.

In the end it makes a lovely story that you''ll be able to share with your children and grandchildren. And that is wonderful.

Freke: Thank you for your reply. But as I stated AFTER my original post (didnt have enough time in the original) That when he came home and all that had happened, that it WASNT the ring that I was upset about at that point. He THOUGHT I was upset about the ring even after I had stated to him that thats not what i was upset about and he told me about the ring anyway. It was both of our faults and yes it was a VERY sweet suprise. And even tho it wasnt TOTALLY my fault that he told me about it, i still felt like SHI* after.

 

[CrookedRock]

Date: 4/12/2008 4:47:24 PM
Author: FrekeChild


Holly and I have certainly had our differences, probably over this same topic, but now I see. And I''d like to give her mad props (hee hee) for continuing to come to the LIW and give her honest opinion time and time again, even amongst the bashing. Because, like it or not, she''s got a point.

In the end it makes a lovely story that you''ll be able to share with your children and grandchildren. And that is wonderful.

Freke~ For the record I never said Holly was wrong... I actually said that she has made so great and helpful points... But if they were written in a nicer tone they would probably be read and taken they way they are meant to be... Helpful! Instead of condescending. Holly usually says things that I agree with, I just think they could be written to be more conductive.

I am now backing out of this thread as I hate when threads are overtaken by these issues. I have said how I feel. Period.
Sapphire... Keep us posted!

 

[surfgirl]

I have to give props to Holly and Freke Child for stating the obvious, and it IS indeed sad that most LIWs dont seem to actually READ the archives here or do a search to find that their problem or issue has probably been addressed many times over and there are great suggestions all around for how to control oneself and let one''s SO get on with proposing, etc. without turning the situation into a negative experience.

I would also like to point out that Holly''s right that many LIWs who come here lamenting over something they did that was probably "wrong", dont seem to want to hear real opinions and it is weird and sort of sad that others swoop down to complain over anyone who posts something less than enabling.

Lastly, it is wholly and completely inappropriate to personally attack someone who''s done nothing other than offer what is very sage advice in the spirit of wanting to help. To do so shows a clear lack of understanding of PS and how to behave on a forum like this one. Unnecessary personal attacks are just as rude as constantly making every thread about one''s own issues, or feeling the need to respond to nearly every thread out there...it''s all just bad forum manners. Sometimes it''s best to think more before posting.

 

[Cravin My Emerald cut]

I haven''t posted in a long time, but I wanted to add my 2 cents.

I think it''s much easier for someone from the outside to "read" a situation than it is for someone emotionally attached to the situation. Yes it may be easy for us readers to go "oh, I bet he bought it" than it is for the actual person to realize this......especially when the store owner is in on things.

As for the worrying over a specific ring (I''m currently in a similar situation) it''s not so much the ring or diamond, but the fact that he asked for your input but then doesn''t listen to it.....which is part of why the original poster was upset.

 

[Sapphire_Cutie]

Date: 4/13/2008 7:28:19 PM
Author: Cravin My Emerald cut
I haven''t posted in a long time, but I wanted to add my 2 cents.

I think it''s much easier for someone from the outside to ''read'' a situation than it is for someone emotionally attached to the situation. Yes it may be easy for us readers to go ''oh, I bet he bought it'' than it is for the actual person to realize this......especially when the store owner is in on things.

As for the worrying over a specific ring (I''m currently in a similar situation) it''s not so much the ring or diamond, but the fact that he asked for your input but then doesn''t listen to it.....which is part of why the original poster was upset.

That IS why I got so upset..it wasnt ALL about me thinking the ring had been sold and not getting what i WANTED. I would have been ok with another ring. It was because he involved me in the process and then seemed to be procrastinating and not listening to me in GENERAL...not JUST about the ring. About comming home WAY later then he said he was going to and NOT calling to say so. And other things that had happened durring the day. Originally yes i WAS upset about the ring. But by the time he had come home it was OTHER things that made me mad. He just wouldnt listen to me when i said it WASNT about the ring, and decided to tell me so i wouldnt be upset. He wasnt mad that he told me, and we are fine. And it was also the fact that since the store owner had told me that not only was it SOLD but that he HADNT called, and my SO told me that he DID. So it SEEMED like MAYBE my SO was lying and saying that he HAD called when maybe he HADNT. But like i said AFTER my original post...by the time he came home it WASNT the ring that i was upset about. And the reason for my post in the 1st place was the fact that I FELT BAD that even tho it wasnt ENTIRELY my fault...He still told me and it wa sno longer a suprise. And that I FELT bad that i thought that he hadnt gotten it and in fact he did.

 

[Cravin My Emerald cut]

Well Sapphire_cutie.....I can''t wait to see pics of that ring on your hand.....it''s beautiful and I"m sure the proposal will be perfect.

Perhaps you should start looking for a sapphire RHR

 

[E B]

That ring is gorgeous!

 

[CrookedRock]

Date: 4/13/2008 7:28:19 PM
Author: Cravin My Emerald cut
I haven''t posted in a long time, but I wanted to add my 2 cents.

I think it''s much easier for someone from the outside to ''read'' a situation than it is for someone emotionally attached to the situation. Yes it may be easy for us readers to go ''oh, I bet he bought it'' than it is for the actual person to realize this......especially when the store owner is in on things.

That is such a great point!! We often become blind when we are in the situation. It becomes difficult to look at things from a different angle and see what the other possibilities are. Great point Cravin!!!

Note:
From now on maybe I will just log on and make snarky comments and then follow someone from thread to thread posting anything negative behind them. Now I know how to behave on a forum!

 

[ringster]

can''t wait to see your ring sapphire_cutie. it looks lovely and i love the antique type of rings. i''m glad that things worked out for you.

while i know that in the end all is well but i think this could help to demonstrate to LIWs that it is better to decide with your SO if you are going to be part of the ring buying process and at what point will you bow out and let your guy do his thing. it would be better for both of you cause then it is clearer and no one gets into the same situation which sapphire_cutie and it sounds like others have gotten themselves into. this way it can be a positive experience for both parties which it should be.

Date: 4/13/2008 6:38:42 AM
Author: surfgirl
I have to give props to Holly and Freke Child for stating the obvious, and it IS indeed sad that most LIWs dont seem to actually READ the archives here or do a search to find that their problem or issue has probably been addressed many times over and there are great suggestions all around for how to control oneself and let one''s SO get on with proposing, etc. without turning the situation into a negative experience.


I would also like to point out that Holly''s right that many LIWs who come here lamenting over something they did that was probably ''wrong'', dont seem to want to hear real opinions and it is weird and sort of sad that others swoop down to complain over anyone who posts something less than enabling.


Lastly, it is wholly and completely inappropriate to personally attack someone who''s done nothing other than offer what is very sage advice in the spirit of wanting to help. To do so shows a clear lack of understanding of PS and how to behave on a forum like this one. Unnecessary personal attacks are just as rude as constantly making every thread about one''s own issues, or feeling the need to respond to nearly every thread out there...it''s all just bad forum manners. Sometimes it''s best to think more before posting.

and have to say ditto to what SG said above.

also, i think that thinking a few secs before doing anything would do wonders for the world in general !

 

[cwj]

S C
I can''t wait to see your ring. Any idea when u will be getting it?

 

[Sapphire_Cutie]

Date: 4/16/2008 9:14:44 AM
Author: cwj
S C
I can''t wait to see your ring. Any idea when u will be getting it?

Sadly...no lol. i found out yesterday that it hasnt left the shop yet. He has 2 mos to pay it off and that was 2wks ago. so a month and a half lol. But he could very well have it before then. I honestly dont think he''ll hold onto it for long once he gets it...so hopefully within 6-8wks mAX...im HOPING lol. Altho im RELATIVLY calm about it and been ok waiting...so FAR lol.