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AnnArbor_707

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I''ve officially started looking for engagement rings. I''ve been to numerous jewelery stores and was amazed at the prices I''d found on Blue Nile. They absolutely kill anything I''ve ever seen in an actual store. I had a couple friends use Blue Nile and they seem to be a reputable company based on the comments and reviews I''ve seen online.
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Then I found this forum and caught wind of "White Flash".... they''ve got in some instances better deals when compared to Blue Nile. Any comments from anyone as far as which place to use ? I don''t know anyone that''s used White Flash, but based on the deals I can get it''s very tempting. I''m looking for opinions - can anyone help me out ??

Here''s what I would get if I am buying through White Flash
Diamond: 1.25ct. $7400 http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2297503.htm
Setting: .4ct. $1500 http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/diamond-braid-diamond-engagement-ring_1349.htm

Here''s what I would get if I am buying through Blue Nile (Much less of a diamond, less of a setting)
Diamond: 1.25ct. $8100 (Search for LD01738782 at http://www.bluenile.com - it''s the same diamond as above from WF)
Setting: 0.5ct. $2000 http://www.bluenile.com/diamond-engagement-ring-platinum_15178

The second option from blue nile is a "custom" ring that they are making a price for by Wednesday. It''s same as the other Nile option but with a little more diamonds in the setting. For that option I am thinking to go Princess cut in order to be able to afford to bump the carat weight up to 1.5ct. Any opinions on Halo settings with Princess vs. Round ? I don''t want to ask my girlfriend because she''ll know I''m looking for a ring
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Kind of frustrating.... Please any opinions are welcomed!!!!!


Please diamond experts, women, forum moderators, please offer your opinions! I am a guy who needs to hear opinions and don''t want to ask people I know because it''ll blow the surprise!
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I think WF or Brian Gavin Diamonds are a much better choice personally. BN''s settings are WAY overpriced and you get very little info and no images on the diamond at BN.
 
I would go with WF over BN because they are giving you better prices on the same diamond and they give you more information about the diamonds. (Brian Gavin which someone posted is also a good option, there was recently a post about recommended vendors...not sure where that is...)

If you go with WF stick with their ACA or Expert Selection diamonds because they provide actual photos of the diamonds as well as AGS/GIA reports, ASET images, idealscope images, H&A images.
 
Hi,

I''d go with Whiteflash because they have beautiful stones, provide ALL the info, and their stones are upgradable. My earrings are ACAs and my pendant is an Expert Selection and they''re impeccable.

I don''t think there is anything wrong with BN, it''s just that they don''t give all the details about their diamond and regardless of how much a person is spending, they should have as many images of the stone as possible!

Oh, and I just wanted to add that both vendors have excellent return policies. WF is 10-day (or at least it was when I worked with them) and BN has a smooth return policy too. I bought an amethyst pendant from them that I returned and they made the process a breeze.

Best of luck!
 
I'll let the (more knowledgeable) others comment on ths stones, but as far as companies go I'd go with WF hands down. There's nothing wrong with BN but as others have said, they give you little info on the stone.

I recently saw a stone on Blue Nile I liked. The info was very sparse. I would have potentially bought in from Blue Nile if they could have told me more about it. So I got the GIA number andsked Whiteflash to source it, at which point they gave me a LOT of info on the stone, and after I received and discussed the images with them, I bought it from WF (at the same price to boot). They really went out of their way and gave me excellent service and advice on that stone. They can't get EVERY stone you see on BN (probably), but keep in mind that is an option for stones you see on BN but not on WF.
 
Date: 5/4/2010 3:40:58 PM
Author: TotalNewbie
I'll let the (more knowledgeable) others comment on ths stones, but as far as companies go I'd go with WF hands down. There's nothing wrong with BN but as others have said, they give you little info on the stone.

I recently saw a stone on Blue Nile I liked. The info was very sparse. I would have potentially bought in from Blue Nile if they could have told me more about it. So I got the GIA number andsked Whiteflash to source it, at which point they gave me a LOT of info on the stone, and after I received and discussed the images with them, I bought it from WF (at the same price to boot). They really went out of their way and gave me excellent service and advice on that stone. They can't get EVERY stone you see on BN (probably), but keep in mind that is an option for stones you see on BN but not on WF.
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I have also done this, and though WF will not always match BN's price I'm happy to pay an extra few hundred for the images, sarin, personal inspection, and return/trade-in/upgrade policies (depends on the virtual stone in question).


There's nothing wrong with BN or their diamonds, it's just that WF (and other PS vendors) go so much further to get you what you want and keep you happy.
 
Stone-cold11: WOW, you clearly know a lot more of what to look for that I do. I was in the mindset to check the 4C''s, but the other numbers wasn''t sure how to judge those. I have a HUGE request: Can you school me a little on how you are able to identify the stones I mentioned as being "too steep" or likely to have "leakage" ??? What things should I look for besides the 4C''s ? If you have 5 minutes it would make the WORLD to me. I''ve realized what I can find online and for the price I just can''t justify spending thousands of dollars to talk to a jeweler....

CharmyPoo: Have you used "Brian Gavin Diamonds" ?? I had never heard of them. Would you also be willing to give me any insight to why you chose the two stones ? I very much appreciate your willingness to spend the time to help me out. You guys really have no idea how amazing it is to get some advice on this... the last 2 months I''ve just been reading stuff online and now I feel like I am only at the tip of the iceberg. Anything criteria you would use is HUGE for my understanding - if you can share anything it is greatly appreciated.

slg47: Is there a more general description for why I should stick w/ the "ACA" or "Expert" diamonds being a guy who really has no clue what to look for other than the 4C''s ? Have you seen or bought from WF before ? The things that you mentioned (ASET, Idealscope, H&A, etc) are all a little over my head and I wouldn''t be sure what to even look for...

Lorelei: Is there a depth or proportion you would recommend ? As stated above I am looking to soak up any and all of everyone''s advice

TotalNewbie: I had no idea you could send a stone number to WF that you found on the blue nile page.... that''s crazy. Is there any other info sneaky type moves you could suggest ?

Everyone: Does anyone have any comments on going with a 1.3ct Round vs going with a 1.5ct Princess Halo ??? I''ve heard the princess cuts don''t "shine" as much but I''m looking to hear some opinions.

You guys have been GREAT!!!!!!!
 
Date: 5/3/2010 9:23:55 PM
Author: HappyNewLife
I think WF or Brian Gavin Diamonds are a much better choice personally. BN''s settings are WAY overpriced and you get very little info and no images on the diamond at BN.
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This is my understanding as well
 
What ASET/Idealscope(IS) is and what it shows.

http://www.highperformancediamonds.com/index.php?page=education-performance

For cut performance rejection, a simple way is to use the cut adviser. https://www.pricescope.com/cutadviser.asp Keep the score below 2 and within the green and white outline, will be relatively safe as a first rejection. If idealscope image is available, you can ignore the numbers, just keep table within reasonable size, if you know how to read the image.

If you have more time, read up the knowledge/advance tutorial tag above.
 
Ann Arbor,

Another "move" is to google the AGS or GIA certificate number of a stone you're interedted in. IF another vendor happens to be selling it at a lower price, you can always ask if your vendor can match it. Though, be aware that most of the recommended Pricescope vendors are selling at a pretty low margin already, are well-priced and there isn't much wiggle room.

For example, I was at one point looking at this stone at James Allen with a Pricescope price of $4910 for a pendant: http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-SI1-Premium-Cut-Round-Diamond-1132400.asp

I see from the James Allen site that the GIA certificate number is 16439259. So I then google "gia 16439259" (without the quotes) and I see that it is offered for $5600-$5700 elsewhere. So the James Allen price is pretty good, no matching request needed. You get the idea :) Sometimes you get global results too, and it's interesting to see what the same stone is being priced at in Europe, Australia, etc

I don't consider it sneaky, it's just sensible to shop around.
 
I looked at those two places I thought there mark up was too high.
When we first got engaged my fiance'' told me to just pick any ring I wanted out because he wanted me to be happy. Well we went from store to store to store. I was so tired at looking at rings! When I was in college I worked in jewelry, so buying at super high end retail was something I was hestiant to do. Finally after a couple months I decided to have a ring designed . We found a diamond buyer through Costco yes I said costco ( 10% mark up) who hand picked two stones one emerald cut and knock out 1.90 carat radiant cut. I decided on the radiant cut and we purchased a setting at a jewwlry show that was all baguettes 1.60 ct . My ring was not over $10,000. very reasonable. In fact my fiance paid 1/2 of what he had expected to pay. However, it looks like a very expensive ring I have people complimenting me on it all the time. Someone ask me if it cost over $ 100,000? So think about all your options before you take the fianacial plunge. I picked up matching diamond earrings at a liquation sale, sometimes you can get a real deal sometimes. If can find your way to PDX there is only one jeweler here on Broadway that has a highest rating I''ve ever seen for a jeweler and he is true artist, perfectionist, and his cost is beyond reasonable. Apparently he carries over the cost of saving to you because he has no overhead is my understaning. So do your homework
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Kung pa...think you need to compare apples to apples.
 
Thank you all for SO much help. Prior to coming to this site I was 100% for sure going to use Blue Nile for both the diamond and setting, however now I feel so much more aware and now have more online merchants to choose from (BGD and WhiteFlash)

That said I am starting to narrow down my search. I feel a little selfish using everyone''s time to help me, but if there is anyone that would like to continue to offer opinions / advice I would GREATLY appreciate it.

Setting:

White Flash:
This setting looks great, but I''m concerned what it looks like in real life. I''ve asked for a picture with the ring on a finger, but aparantly it''s too "new" and they don''t have one. Also, ct weight is quite small - 0.37. This ring is also a factory ring so my concern is the round diamond would not be fit to the halo. Any comments ?
http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/diamond-braid-diamond-engagement-ring_1349.htm

Blue Nile:
This setting looks great, but big concern is what it''d look like in person. Same basic idea as the white flash one above, however the ct. size is much greater at 0.6. I like that diamonds are on 2 faces of the halo - seems like it''d have more bling. any comments ??
http://www.bluenile.com/diamond-engagement-ring-setting-platinum_15179

Brian Gavin Diamonds:
This setting is really nice and best of all it has 1ct. of diamonds in the setting. It''s hard for me to understand how the size looks the same as the other 2, but it has so much more ct. weight. I heard from a woman at Brian Gavin that using one of their settings vs. at Blue Nile or White Flash is that the diamonds in the setting are higher quality and will sparkle much more - anyone have any opinions on that ??
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/home/ring-details/?product_id=5358
http://blog.brianthecutter.com/2009/08/13/customer-raves-about-her-%E2%80%9Ckristin%E2%80%9D-custom-split-shank-halo-diamond-engagement-ring-with-a-brian-gavin-signature-hearts-and-arrows-center-stone%E2%80%A6/

This setting is kind of a dream because it''s $4,150. If my budget is roughly $10,000 any opinions on if it''d be worth sacrificing on the center stone a little ? Ohh and for some reason they don''t list the ct. weight, but I saw in someone else''s post that this setting had 1.25ct weight.
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/home/ring-details/?product_id=5497




Loose Diamonds: I want the diamond to sparkle and as a result want the best "bang for buck" cut I can find. I''m willing to sacrifice on color and cut as long as it''s "eye clean" (I think thats the term everyone is using on here). I''ve been in jewelery stores and some stones that are "I" are actually a little yellow so because of that reason I''m thinking H might be my bottom end ? That said, I spoke with a woman at Brian Gavin and she told me an "I" color and "SI" clarity would be eye clean. She said I could buy an "I / SI" from her and if I don''t like it just ship it back.... Just looking for opinions - since I want to maximize cut and size.

White Flash

$8,764 Cut:1.5ct, Clarity:VS2, Color:I, Cut:Excellent - This diamond allows for a big size (part of me wants to get her a 1.5ct and I think part of that is for bragging rights (being honest)
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2306034.htm

$7,051 Cut:1.28ct, Clarity:SI, Color:I, Cut:Ideal / ACA - I''ve heard good things about "ACA" so Was thinking if the cut really makes it sparkle that much more, maybe this is a good way to go - reduce the ct size, but overall more bling ?
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2199905.htm

Blue Nile:
$7,089 Cut:1.5ct, Clarity:SI2, Color:H, Cut:Very Good
http://www.bluenile.com/diamond-search?track=bbt#diamonds_pid=LD01785645

$6,990 Cut:1.4ct, Clarity:SI2, Color:I, Cut:Ideal
http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-1-carat-ideal-cut-i-color-si2-clarity_LD01764277

$7,620 Cut:1.23ct, Clarity:SI1, Color:H, Cut:Signature Ideal (I am assuming this signature ideal is similar to an "ACA" at white flash or a hearts and arrow at Brian Gavin??)
http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-1-carat-signature-ideal-cut-h-color-si1-clarity_LD01755817

Brian Gavin:
$7,306 Cut:1.206ct, Clarity:SI1, Color:H, Cut:Ideal - Brian Gavin Signature
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamond/diamond-detail/?product_id=AGS-1040397620017

$6,907 Cut:1.37ct, Clarity:SI1, Color:H, Cut:Excellent
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamond/diamond-details/?product_id=22457077

For the BGDiamonds, anyone have any comments on the Signature Select vs. Signature Ideal ? Could a person detect the difference ?


For some reason even after looking at all of the above diamonds something in the back of my head is telling me another option might be to use a HUGE princess cut solitare. The reason is my gf saw a girl at the gym with a princess cut ROCK on a solitare and she made a comment how big it was. I don''t really understand why, but you can get a much bigger princess cut diamond than you can a round stone w/ the exact same cut/color/clarity. I know the round stones "sparkle" more, but sometimes size is important. Any comments on that ? I don''t want to talk to my gf about it because it needs to be a surprise. She''s told me anything I get is perfect and she actually doesn''t want to make demands. The only thing I''ve ever heard her say (and she felt really rude telling me, ahah) was when a girl has a really small center stone it''s a little embarrising.


OK, that''s all for now. I can''t express in words how helpful this forum has been to me.... thank you to everyone that has commented!!!
 
so a few things...

a round brilliant cut actually will appear larger than a princess of the same carat weight because the princess cut is cut deeper.

also, as far as the settings you picked...they are very different looks! I find the last one that you linked from BGD to be more ''substantial'' than the others and the others are more ''delicate''. Have you considered this one from BGD? I don''t think total carat weight is the most important factor in selecting the setting...it''s getting something that appeals to you.

BGD halo setting

I also really like the WF one if you like that ''braid'' look...just different looks :)

the whiteflash ACA and Brian Gavin Signature lines are cut to a much higher standard than the Blue Nile signature ideal. The main issue with BN is that they do not provide real photos of their diamonds, or idealscope/ASET images that help you assess the light return. Also I don''t think the signature ideals are hearts and arrows, if that matters to you...

For the virtual stone that you selected from WF, look at how it scores on the HCA (see tools) and if it scores well maybe have it brought in for further evaluation? Or you can stick with the WF ACA/BGD signature and know that you are getting a top cut.
 
The BN Signature Ideals are sold as H&A but not back up with hearts image.

The difference between BG's signature ideal and select is signature ideals are their in-house stone, H&A symm, select is a virtual inventory stone, can be good stone or bad since this stone does not even have the GIA report uploaded, they will have to call it in and get the IS images etc.

Princess generally are cheaper per carat but face up smaller area and well cut stones are harder to come by as only AGS grades the cut performance of princess.

EDT:

Check all SI1 stones with the vendor to make sure they are eye-clean, do not automatically assume they are.

The WF virtual stone's proportion is a little iffy.
http://www2.gia.edu/reportcheck/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.showReportVerification&reportno=5106949337&weight=1.50

The WF ACA looks good.

So does the BGD Signature stone, looks good but not enough information on the virtual stone.

Not liking the 2 BN virtual stones' numbers. The BN SI looks good.
 
Give me a sec and I'll be back with comments on the stones you picked below...

White FlashGIA REPOTED NOT LOADED FOR THIS STONE SO NOT ENOUGH INFO - SC might be able to find the GIA report though
$8,764 Cut:1.5ct, Clarity:VS2, Color:I, Cut:Excellent - This diamond allows for a big size (part of me wants to get her a 1.5ct and I think part of that is for bragging rights (being honest)
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2306034.htm

NUMBERS LOOK GOOD ON THIS ONE - need to ask them if it is eye-clean
$7,051 Cut:1.28ct, Clarity:SI, Color:I, Cut:Ideal / ACA - I've heard good things about "ACA" so Was thinking if the cut really makes it sparkle that much more, maybe this is a good way to go - reduce the ct size, but overall more bling ?
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2199905.htm

Blue Nile: NOT GOOD - pass
$7,089 Cut:1.5ct, Clarity:SI2, Color:H, Cut:Very Good
http://www.bluenile.com/diamond-search?track=bbt#diamonds_pid=LD01785645

$6,990 Cut:1.4ct, Clarity:SI2, Color:I, Cut:Ideal GETTING A 4 on the HCA - not so good
http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-1-carat-ideal-cut-i-color-si2-clarity_LD01764277

$7,620 Cut:1.23ct, Clarity:SI1, Color:H, Cut:Signature Ideal (I am assuming this signature ideal is similar to an "ACA" at white flash or a hearts and arrow at Brian Gavin??) Numbers look good - need to ask if its eye-clean
http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-1-carat-signature-ideal-cut-h-color-si1-clarity_LD01755817

Brian Gavin: Beautiful stone - ask about eye-clean but ususally not a problem wtih BGD Signature
$7,306 Cut:1.206ct, Clarity:SI1, Color:H, Cut:Ideal - Brian Gavin Signature
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamond/diamond-detail/?product_id=AGS-1040397620017

$6,907 Cut:1.37ct, Clarity:SI1, Color:H, Cut:Excellent GIA Report not loaded - need to talk to lesley and ask her about this stone.
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamond/diamond-details/?product_id=22457077

 
THANK YOU SO MUCH!

Slg47: As far as the settings go, I feel like the ct. weight is kind of a way to feel like I''m getting my money''s worth. If a setting costs $1500 and only has .37 ct it would be worth it to me to bump up for $1000 more and get a full ct. Also, (please correct me if I''m wrong) but .37 ct (the white flash setting) might come off looking really small and just a big piece of gold instead of having diamonds ON the gold. I want the ring to look "tastefully bling" if there is such a thing. Thank you for your advice on the blue nile diamonds too.... the longer I''m on here shopping around the less likely I am to use blue nile. Can you explain to me what the "HCA" is that you suggest I look at ? Do you mean the HCA on pricescope ? https://www.pricescope.com/cutadviser.asp If so, a lot of times I can''t find enough info to even use the HCA indicator from the diamond''s website. Seems weird...

Stone-cold11: What is a "virtual inventory" stone ? Are you just implying the stone is at a vendor and blue nile is listing it along with (more than likely) many other shops ? Do you know why it''s so tough to get the IS images, etc. for diamonds ? I didn''t even know they existed until reading this forum. When you say the WF stone is a little iffy on proportion - what criteria are you using ? I''m just trying to pick your brain so I can know what to look for (man I have a long way to go). How do you know the blue nile stones are no good ? Thank you for the advice to ask about the "eye clean" of the SI instead of just assuming - makes sense. Anyway, Any info how you''re able to quickly judge stones is greatly appreciated...

tyty333: Same questions for Stone-cold11 go to you. Just wanting to know what specifically would make you "pass" on a diamond and/or qualities that would make you think it''s a good buy.


A couple general questions I''m not sure if anyone has an opinion on: Would a Brian Gavin Signature Ideal be noticeably better than just a "regular" ideal ? The answer to this may come when you tell me how you''re judging the diamond, but I am trying to decide if it''s worth forking over the extra cash for the "top notch" cut. If I sacrifice the cut at Brian Gavin I can go from a 1.2 --> 1.4ct :)
 
I mean, personally I would go with a setting I liked and not worry about the total carat weight. Just depends if you want more of a ''delicate'' or more of a ''chunky'' look. Maybe you can search the forums and see if someone has those settings you are considering? Many PSers have a setting with a delicate pave band and it doesn''t look like a big piece of gold...it looks like diamonds. Personally I think the more delicate settings will really make the center diamond stand out, but it is just a matter of taste/aesthetic.

Yssie just wrote a really good post about H&A vs non-H&A diamonds, as this has been a debated topic. I would say if you can find a non H&A stone with a good idealscope/ASET image then that would be a nice way to go. If you go with one of the ACAs or BGD signatures then you don''t really have to do much looking elsewhere, you are basically guaranteed that it will be a good performer, but you will pay a premium.

Also with regards to ''virtual'' stones, these are not in-house, meaning that the vendor does not physically have them, but they have access to them. So this is why it is hard to get images of these. You would have to check with the vendor on the policies for bringing them in...
 
I agree that you should pick a setting you like and not worry about carat weight.

I have worked with whiteflash and brian gavin (As have many many people on these forums) their diamonds are amazing (I have ACA earrings from AF and a Signature H&A pendant from Brian Gavin) and their customer service is incredible!

Blue Nile can have some nice stones, but if you are not 100% confident in evaluating the stones based on numbers (and there are many things numbers so not tell, namely if a stone is eyeclean) then the service, images, documents, and advice that WF and BGD provide is well worth the premium (and sometimes their stones are even cheaper than Blue Nile:-)
 
Yap, HCA is the cut adviser. The information needed for the input should be on the grading report.

Virtual stone is just stone hold be another vendor and advertised on this vendor's site. Sometimes you can find a virtual stone listed by several vendors with slight different prices. BN has a policy that any stone listed by them will not be listed by other vendors, to give the impression that they are the sole owner of the stone, which they are not.

It is not tough, just that BN's inventory are mostly virtual stones and it is impossible for BN to supply and train all the vendors holding these virtual stones to take Idealscope image of the same consistency. This applies to all drop-shippers.

BN's virtual stones are no good because the numbers when you input in the HCA are bad, will likely show leakage and the lower half is on the smaller side is not helping, unlike the WF virtual stone.

The iffy WF virtual stone scores 3.7 on the HCA. Due to the averaging over 8 or more facets, and rounding of numbers by GIA, 0.5 degrees for the crown angle and 0.2 degrees for the pavilion angle, and also 5% for the lower half size, there is a slight chance that this stone can perform as well as a well cut stone, depending on the direction of rounding if it is complementary or not and how much variation in each facet. So an idealscope image is definitely required if you want to consider that stone.

Also, as mentioned by slg, virtual stone bought in can be subjected to different policy than in-house stones and additional cost so check with the vendors concern.

EDT:
Basically, a vendor's H&A stone is more for the consistency of cut, but if the idealscope image checks out fine and the proportion, angles are within roughly the same range, should have negligible difference.
 
You guys have all been SO helpful. I''ve been guided towards a "signature hearts and arrows" diamond thru Brian Gavin. After talking to a few people I''ve heard different opinions and am unsure which to believe. Jamie at BGD has the opinion that there is a noticeable difference in an ideal cut regular stone and a perfectly symmetric ideal cut hearts and arrow. It''s starting to get overwhelming finding an "ideal" stone that is a good performer and for sure is worth it unless I get a hearts and arrows stone. I''d like to go thru BGD at this point because the people there have been so helpful. The problem with bringing in a virtual stone is that they can''t tell me what the idealscope/ASET images look like until they have it shipped in. At that point if I didn''t want the stone I''d have to pay $50. Not the end of the world, but don''t want to get in a cycle of doing that. Does anyone have a recommendation ?


These are the 3 I''m looking at thru Brian Gavin. (calling him in 40mins to discuss them)

1.225ct Color: I Clarity: SI1 ($6,545)
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamond/diamond-detail/?product_id=AGS-1040375050001

1.208ct Color: H Clarity: SI1 ($7,022)
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamond/diamond-detail/?product_id=AGS-1040397620017

1.29ct Color: H Clarity: VS2 ($8,594)
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamond/diamond-detail/?product_id=AGS-104044686020


Any comments ? Any suggestions on a larger stone that is not quite the "perfect performer" when it comes to cut (but still at BGD) ? My dilemna is that I could get a bigger stone for the money, but am unsure how to pick a "good" ideal (but non-HandA) stone. What do the experts of price scope think ??? You guys have been amazing.....
 
1 & 2 looks good. 3 should be but will need to see the IS and hearts image first.
 
Date: 6/1/2010 8:47:03 PM
Author: AnnArbor_707

Any comments ? Any suggestions on a larger stone that is not quite the 'perfect performer' when it comes to cut (but still at BGD) ? My dilemna is that I could get a bigger stone for the money, but am unsure how to pick a 'good' ideal (but non-HandA) stone. What do the experts of price scope think ??? You guys have been amazing.....
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For non-H&A I would go look work with JA as they have access to a large number of virtual stones as they are near the NYC diamond district. They can take idealscope image and have the gemologist look at most of these virtual stones (ie, eye-clean, fluor, etc.) without incurring additional cost to you.
 
Date: 5/23/2010 2:40:37 PM
Author: Stone-cold11
Some suggestions from JA.

Their H&A line. Ask if eye-clean.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-SI1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1288893.asp

Ask for idealscope image for these and if eye-clean for the SI1 stone.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-SI1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1296709.asp

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1264188.asp
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Previous suggestions still available except the H&A which is already on hold by someone else.
 
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