Buying a spess garnet.....

[megeve]

Date: 6/14/2009 8:36:58 PM
Author: tsavvy
The color on that EC looks great to me. I just got a similar smaller EC from the same vendor and posted pix here. Based on the videos and online photos, the color in the one you are looking at appears a bit deeper -- I eyed that one, but it was out of my budget! Good luck

Wow, tsavvy, thats an awesome looking EC!

Thanks for weighing in!

 

[megeve]

Date: 6/15/2009 12:05:28 AM
Author: Harriet
Yes.

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[megeve]

I have also found one which is supposed to be vivid in saturation. What do you guys think?

 

[megeve]

Oooops! Thats a wrong one! Will give it a try again, hope the pic comes out bigger!

 

[DiamondFlame]

Somehow the photo looks unnatural to me, and doesn''t reveal much about the stone''s character. I find it difficult to judge, really.

 

[T L]

Look on youtube for AJS videos of spessartites. The colors are more muddy on the video of stones that he thinks are "vivid." I'm really getting sick and tired of various dealers not sticking to the GIA gemset system and coming up with their own grading system, and calling everything "vivid."

True vivid color is exceptionately rare in nature.

 

[megeve]

Date: 6/17/2009 3:39:14 PM
Author: tourmaline_lover
Look on youtube for AJS videos of spessartites. The colors are more muddy on the video of stones that he thinks are ''vivid.'' I''m really getting sick and tired of various dealers not sticking to the GIA gemset system and coming up with their own grading system, and calling everything ''vivid.''

True vivid color is exceptionately rare in nature.

Yah, you are right the colors on the video of stones will not win any awards!

However, having said that, this stone was recommended by Elvis from you know where, many moons ago! Can he be wrong?

 

[T L]

Date: 6/17/2009 3:55:39 PM
Author: megeve

Yah, you are right the colors on the video of stones will not win any awards!

However, having said that, this stone was recommended by Elvis from you know where, many moons ago! Can he be wrong?

Anyone, even yours truly, can be wrong.

Did I just say that!!?? I thought I was a "know it all." LOL!!

 

[megeve]

Ha Ha, LOL TL!!! But I must say you do have a good eye for color & saturation! So, do you think I can consider this one? I am just not too confident with their description, whether it would be exactly that also IRL!!!

 

[chrono]

If interested, I would request additional pictures from AJS. My experience with them has been quite good. Ask for a side view and pavilion picture which they will usually be quick to supply.

 

[T L]

Date: 6/17/2009 6:11:45 PM
Author: megeve
Ha Ha, LOL TL!!! But I must say you do have a good eye for color & saturation! So, do you think I can consider this one? I am just not too confident with their description, whether it would be exactly that also IRL!!!

Thanks for the kind words. I would do what Chrono recommends since she has had a good experience with them, and that''s saying a lot. Chrono has a very very discerning eye for color.

 

[chrono]

Thank you, TL. You are too kind.

I am very easily embarrased.

 

[PrecisionGem]

Date: 5/21/2009 11:28:40 PM
Author: Chrono
If the colour is truly great, I can forgive minor cutting issues. Colour always comes first in my book. If the window is small, it can always be ''closed'' in the right setting.

I see a lot of loose stones, but very few set stones. Could someone explain to me how setting a stone can close a window. I hear this a lot here, but have never experienced it. I''m wondering is this like a car dealer telling you that after the car is broken in it will ride better?

 

[megeve]

Date: 6/17/2009 8:14:58 PM
Author: tourmaline_lover

Date: 6/17/2009 6:11:45 PM
Author: megeve
Ha Ha, LOL TL!!! But I must say you do have a good eye for color & saturation! So, do you think I can consider this one? I am just not too confident with their description, whether it would be exactly that also IRL!!!

Thanks for the kind words. I would do what Chrono recommends since she has had a good experience with them, and that''s saying a lot. Chrono has a very very discerning eye for color.

Ditto, totally! I have also noticed that you & Chrono has always been helpful and patient with newbies like me asking for advices, opinions etc. Much appreciated!!

 

[movie zombie]

Date: 6/18/2009 2:52:54 PM
Author: PrecisionGem

Date: 5/21/2009 11:28:40 PM
Author: Chrono
If the colour is truly great, I can forgive minor cutting issues. Colour always comes first in my book. If the window is small, it can always be ''closed'' in the right setting.

I see a lot of loose stones, but very few set stones. Could someone explain to me how setting a stone can close a window. I hear this a lot here, but have never experienced it. I''m wondering is this like a car dealer telling you that after the car is broken in it will ride better?

i was wondering that myself...............

mz

 

[T L]

Date: 6/18/2009 5:06:22 PM
Author: movie zombie

Date: 6/18/2009 2:52:54 PM
Author: PrecisionGem

Date: 5/21/2009 11:28:40 PM
Author: Chrono
If the colour is truly great, I can forgive minor cutting issues. Colour always comes first in my book. If the window is small, it can always be ''closed'' in the right setting.

I see a lot of loose stones, but very few set stones. Could someone explain to me how setting a stone can close a window. I hear this a lot here, but have never experienced it. I''m wondering is this like a car dealer telling you that after the car is broken in it will ride better?

i was wondering that myself...............

mz

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/how-to-make-a-window-disappear-in-logr-setting.107888/

 

[T L]

Date: 6/18/2009 4:51:27 PM
Author: megeve

Date: 6/17/2009 8:14:58 PM
Author: tourmaline_lover


Thanks for the kind words. I would do what Chrono recommends since she has had a good experience with them, and that''s saying a lot. Chrono has a very very discerning eye for color.

Ditto, totally! I have also noticed that you & Chrono has always been helpful and patient with newbies like me asking for advices, opinions etc. Much appreciated!!

You''re very welcome.

 

[chrono]

Date: 6/18/2009 5:40:54 PM
Author: tourmaline_lover
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/how-to-make-a-window-disappear-in-logr-setting.107888/

TL,
Thank you for the Houdini link. I know there are other examples on PS showing how the setting minimizes the small window in the gemstone but this one is the best.

 

[chrono]

Date: 6/18/2009 4:51:27 PM
Author: megeve

Ditto, totally! I have also noticed that you & Chrono has always been helpful and patient with newbies like me asking for advices, opinions etc. Much appreciated!!

Megeve,
You are welcome. I may not know everything but I am more than happy to share what little I know.

 

[PrecisionGem]

Ok, I had a look at the "closing window thread" , I think what is going on, is you are still looking right through the stone''s window, but instead of seeing a finger, you are looking at the mounting in the stone, which looks much more like the stone. There can''t be any magical way that the window closes. It''s still there, the angles on the pavilion are still wrong, you just are not seeing flesh tones, but in this case silver color.

 

[chrono]

Gene,
Your assessment is correct. The setting gives the illusion of closing the window although it does not really make the window disappear magically or anything like that. The only way to truly close the window is to correct the pavilon angles but short of recutting and losing carat weight and having the added cost of a recut, setting the gemstone in an enclosed setting does double duty - the gem can be worn and the window is less obvious.

 

[T L]

That window might close up. If you notice with my spess, it clearly has a small window on the vendor's picture (far right) because it appears to be standing up, and not lying on top of anything. However, in my two pictures (bottom and left), while lying on top of a background, the window closes up. I suspect the same thing would happen in a mount. I placed my spess on top of a semi-mount and the window closed up as well.