CAD feedback help

[dhimer]

They made a ring for me several years ago with a cathedral and no donut. I wanted to stack with no gap as well. Sorry for the dark terrible photos. Rushing.

I LOVE your ring! Stunning!
Did you find that having an engraved band limited your choice of wedding bands ?

 

[Lookinagain]

I LOVE your ring! Stunning!
Did you find that having an engraved band limited your choice of wedding bands ?

No, not really. But the band it is seen with it what I usually would stack it with. Mainly I would stack it with bands that are flat and not with stones set up higher, but that has nothing to do with the engraving.

 

[dhimer]

I feel frustrated. Here is the new cad...better than before but I wonder if I’m being too picky or not explaining myself well enough. Does this cad reflect what I had asked for as far as the shank (maybe I just can’t read them)? Would this version of the cad satisfy my need to have 1 cohesive piece? I know he still needs to elongate the head still.


Here is what I had asked him

 

[Lookinagain]

No it doesn’t. It seems like a communication issue. They didn’t incorporate the rise in the shank at the basket. Perhaps just send that photo again and ask if there was a reason.
Do you want the donut? I know you asked for it with this version of the CAD but it will create at least a small gap.

 

[dhimer]

Thank you for validating I’m not crazy!
I kept the donut because he said he can make it be oval and this still ensure a flush fit with the WB.
But there appears to be a communication disconnect. I thought adding the pictures would help.
I don’t know how to find the perfect words to convey my request so it’s clear enough.

 

[Lookinagain]

Show Amy or David this and tell him/her to look at the red on the left side and you want the shank to curve up to reach the basket. I’ve never had this kind of issue communicating with her or him so I’m not sure where there is a disconnect. You want the band to swoop up more and connect to the basket at a higher point.
Maybe give a phone call if you think that could help. I’m stymied as to why it’s not getting across as, again, I’ve never had that issue with them and they have made many pieces for me.

 

[dhimer]

Show Amy or David this and tell him/her to look at the red on the left side and you want the shank to curve up to reach the basket. I’ve never had this kind of issue communicating with her or him so I’m not sure where there is a disconnect. You want the band to swoop up more and connect to the basket at a higher point.
Maybe give a phone call if you think that could help. I’m stymied as to why it’s not getting across as, again, I’ve never had that issue with them and they have made many pieces for me.

Thank you for the advice! Here is the email I drafted for him. Anything else I should add before I drive him crazy

Here are the reference pictures I included

 

[Lookinagain]

I think that is pretty clear. The only thing you could possibly add is to circle the area on the photos

 

[dhimer]

I think that is pretty clear. The only thing you could possibly add is to circle the area on the photos

Done! Fingers crossed this is the final one!thank you for your help

 

[Lookinagain]

Done! Fingers crossed this is the final one!thank you for your help

Keep us posted!

 

[dhimer]

Keep us posted!

I got the revised one. I wonder if the shoulders are raised too high? Otherwise, It looks good to my untrained eyes. Any feedback is much appreciated!

 

[molecule]

I got the revised one. It looks good to my untrained eyes. Any feedback is much appreciated!

I feel fussy for saying this, but the triangle shape of the basket is not overly pleasing to me.

 

[Lookinagain]

I got the revised one. I wonder if the shoulders are raised too high? Otherwise, It looks good to my untrained eyes. Any feedback is much appreciated!

maybe a bit too high. Not sure exactly why she narrowed the basket at the bottom as much as she did. Perhaps that's necessary for a reason I don't know about but I would ask about that too. But I do think that it looks much more integrated so you are getting there. maybe if the basket were still wider at the bottom the shoulders wouldn't look as high but I still think I'd want them a bit lower. I'm trying to draw with a mouse so can't do much but I'm trying here.

 

[Rfisher]

Without comparing shots in front of my face to be sure
It looks to me the cathedral shoulders and integration of basket was used from a larger stone and not scaled (or not enough) to your stone.

 

[dhimer]

I got a revised version Ladies ! Seems like we are slowly getting there. His newer version looks better but it presents a small gap with the wedding band. I’m not sure if there is a way to have it sit flush or if I should just be ok with it. Anything else that looks off or I should have modified ? Thank you all for all your feedback

 

[Lookinagain]

I guess I don't understand why you have the donut? Do you want that for the design or is it needed? I never really knew why you added it. I may be missing something but if it isn't necessary, I'd get rid of it if you want a flush fit. the rest looks much better as far as the shoulders and the integration. But if you want the flush fit and the donut isn't necessary for one reason or another, then get rid of it to have your flush fit. Isn't this what you were looking for? Just more integration at the shoulder? Maybe some of the earlier photos confused things because the rings with the rise in the shoulders also had donuts. Or maybe you want the donut, but then you will give up a flush fit.

 

[dhimer]

I approved the final CAD on Monday. Now I’m not sure how long it takes for DK to make and ship the ring. Hopefully no LONGER than 4 weeks. Anyways, here is the final CAD. I want to thank you all from the bottom of my heart for all your help!

 

[dhimer]

I got pictures from DK of the finished product. It looks great....but he accidentally made he head in platinum vs the unplated white gold I had requested. I had asked for wg because I generally don’t like the grey patina of platinum. But now I don’t know if I should just get him to ship me the beauty or ask him to remake the head (is that an option)? What would you do ?
Meanwhile here are some of the glamour shots.

 

[elizat]

I would just leave it. I don't think it will get as much patina just being the head. However, I do prefer platinum because I think it's a more luxe feeling metal.

 

[dhimer]

I got pictures from DK of the finished product. It looks great....but he accidentally made he head in platinum vs the unplated white gold I had requested. I had asked for wg because I generally don’t like the grey patina of platinum. But now I don’t know if I should just get him to ship me the beauty or ask him to remake the head (is that an option)? What would you do ?
Meanwhile here are some of the glamour shots.

Also, someone plz tell me I’m not crazy...but do the prongs seem too far out from the diamond (almost look bulky). I’m not sure how to explain it. I market it in the picture and attached the picture of @D&t’s ring after which it was modeled.it seems that the prongs in her version are a bit longer and closer to the diamond (not sure what the correct terminology would be ).

 

[tyty333]

You dont need to worry about the plat/unplated white gold IMO. Same care and the plat you have is thin and milgrained. It will not
get the same kind of wear and tear that the shank gets. Lots of settings that are yellow gold are made with platinum heads.

On the prongs...these pictures are so blow up that they really give you a distorted view of the prongs. I, again my opinion, think
the prongs are just fine.

Its a beautiful design BTW!

 

[dhimer]

I would just leave it. I don't think it will get as much patina just being the head. However, I do prefer platinum because I think it's a more luxe feeling metal.

Thank you for the reply. You don’t think it will turn to the grey patina it normally develops ? I tend to like the warmth of white gold (vs icyness of platinum)

 

[Gone_]

I think you should get what you want instead of taking what he made by mistake.
If you take platinum you might later wonder about the WG look... I don't think it's worth it.

additionally I do see your prong concern, I don't think it's overlapping the diamond in the same way as it does in your inspiration picture.

If I were you I'd tell him I want it in WG as originally discussed and point out the prong issue.

 

[Gone_]

one more thing... unplated white gold looks yellowish-grey, you won't have such a contrasting look as you do now with platinum. It will be yellow + lighter yellow.

Your white gold example picture has rhodium plating over it

 

[dhimer]

one more thing... unplated white gold looks yellowish-grey, you won't have such a contrasting look as you do now with platinum. It will be yellow + lighter yellow.

Your white gold example picture has rhodium plating over it

Thank you for your reply. I know unplated will look warmer/ivory like. I thought this may suit my k color stone better. I was worried that doing platinum or plated wg would emphasize the tint more. Here is a picture of my stone...

And here is the color I think in my head that Dks unplated white gold would look like

 

[dhimer]

I think you should get what you want instead of taking what he made by mistake.
If you take platinum you might later wonder about the WG look... I don't think it's worth it.

additionally I do see your prong concern, I don't think it's overlapping the diamond in the same way as it does in your inspiration picture.

If I were you I'd tell him I want it in WG as originally discussed and point out the prong issue.

Do you think the prong issue can be corrected without him having to remake the whole head ?

 

[Rfisher]

Do you think the prong issue can be corrected without him having to remake the whole head ?

No whom you asked
But I don’t think I’d feel comfortable with reworking prongs to make them longer.
If you aren’t in a rush - find out what entails getting the ring in your hand to see for yourself, with the known possibility it very may well go back to DK for getting done again, the original way you requested.
DK makes the shipping back process very very painless.
On the other hand- If the very first thing you said was that you generally do not like the patina of platinum - I think that should carry some weight.

 

[Gone_]

Thank you for your reply. I know unplated will look warmer/ivory like. I thought this may suit my k color stone better. I was worried that doing platinum or plated wg would emphasize the tint more. Here is a picture of my stone...

And here is the color I think in my head that Dks unplated white gold would look like

From my personal experience I notice that warmer metals make the stones look warmer.... whiter metals make the stones look a bit brighter.

 

[Gone_]

Do you think the prong issue can be corrected without him having to remake the whole head ?

Agree with @Rfisher... I would ask to see the ring in its current state and then ship it back with the specific requests if you don't love it

 

[yssie]

As the Dahlia is Caysie van Bebber’s custom design, I would not call this ring - made by a different vendor - a “modified Dahlia” as this implicitly gives the wrong jeweller credit for the original design.

May I recommend reaching out to the original designer to discuss your modifications? I missed this thread previously - had I seen it I would have suggested going this route from the beginning. As the artist behind the concept (and she actually is an artist who works in multiple media) she is the absolute best person to modify it to suit your wants whilst preserving the original aesthetic. Multi-page PS CAD help threads won’t ever yield as fluid a product as a designer’s vision.

Caysie is responsive via IG, and she includes her email and phone number in her contact info.
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