Can a diamond "fall" out of a setting??

[blushingnude]

i'm in the process of custom-making my ring but the jeweler insists on making the setting with a metal housing (ex of pic attached). i really don't like it at all b/c i want to show off my diamond (of course!!). my mom got her ring made in the 70's (pic attached and please excuse the high setting lol) and her diamond hasn't budged at all...

have you heard of diamonds falling out of rings??

 

[Rockdiamond]

Hi blushingnude ( now I'm blushing)

The three stone setting you're considering really needs the ring under the diamonds.
It is possible to design a setting without- but it's going to nee dot be hand forged- and likely cost much more.
About your mom's setting- in general folks nowadays would not really want a setting that high.

In general- micro pave stones are far more likely to fall out as compared to prong set stones such as either of the pics you posted- it's certainly not unheard of, but rare. The reason is that you need to pull at least two prongs off the center to get the stone to fall out- and generally, a person notices that

 

[kenny]

Since you 'want to show off your diamond have you considered a tension setting?
We've worn them for 7 years and IMHO they are much safer than prongs.
Prongs can bend when just putting on a sweater or reaching in your purse.
I've seen many threads here on PS where a gal looked down and her diamond was gone, but he had no idea how she bent her prongs.

The beefy thick metal of a tension setting embraces the diamond over MUCH more of its diameter than a prong setting.
Plus if you smash your finger hard enough to knock the diamond out of a tension setting you'll KNOW it as you will probably need to go to the hospital.

There are four vendors I trust since tension setting require special alloys and processes to apply the correct forced to keep the diamond in place.
Steven Kretchmer
Niessing
Gelin Abaci
Boonerings

Here is one of ours from Boonerings in titanium.
Much more light can get into and out of the diamond compared to many prong or bezel settings.



Here's a Gelin Abaci:

 

[momhappy]

Yes, of course diamonds can fall out of settings. I've lost diamonds and other precious stones (like emeralds) that way. I don't think it's common, but it can happen.

 

[ecf8503]

Have you looked into trellis settings?

 

[VRBeauty]

Prongs can caught on something and bend, or they can just break. My mother had a solitaire withTiffany-style prongs similar to your mother's, and her 2 ct the diamond "fell out of" that setting on two different occasions. She was very lucky and found the diamond, unharmed, both times. She's since had it set in a sturdier setting.

 

[blushingnude]

thanks for the reply!

the ring i wanted to get made is a round stone with marquise side stones. i hate that metal "housing" (don't know what to call it) as it covers the diamond on the sides.

my jeweler is telling me it will be more secure with the housing but i don't see how or if a prong gets loose, how that housing will help keep the diamond from falling out

does my jeweler have a point??

 

[LibbyLA]

That metal "housing" will probably stabilize the prongs and make the whole setting sturdier. It won't prevent the top of a prong from moving, but it will reduce how much the entire prong can move. Maybe those horizontal rings don't need to be quite so thick.

The bottom part of the head of your mother's setting is pretty thick and sturdy. That's not what you have with the three-stone.

 

[blushingnude]

thank you all for the replies!! it was my first post and i was intimated by how much knowledge is on here and here i am shopping for my e-ring without knowing much lol

 

[TheGeckoLady]

That style of setting is usually called a basket setting because it looks like the diamond is sitting in a little basket. A trellis is similar but it the wires on the sides of the setting cross over each other instead of going straight down the side. It’s going to be difficult to eliminate the little basket bar completely but some settings hide them better than others. Would you consider doing pear side stones instead of marquise? Then you might have more options. It seems like most of the round 3 stone setting designs could be modified fairly easily to accommodate a round and pears. Here are a few that seem to show off the diamond a little more than the one you posted.

W prong
http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/three-stone/w-prong-3-stone-diamond-engagement-ring-914.htm
6 prong
http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/three-stone/3-stone-butterflies-diamond-engagement-ring-230.htm

More delicate basket -
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/open-gallery-accented-18k-white-gold-5448w18
Trellis -
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/three-stone/crossed-trellis-18k-white-gold-5460w18
Half Bezel -
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/three-stone/3-stone-half-bezel-18k-white-gold-5504w18
V shaped basket bar -
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/three-stone/truth-x-3-18k-white-gold-5450w18

 

[DSilverberg]

Diamonds can certainly fall out of a setting. My sister in law's beautiful 2.00 ct. diamond fell out of her ring while she was in middle of a job interview! Lucky for her, it fell into her lap. Unlucky for her, she couldn't focus on anything else!
If you don't like the basket setting, perhaps see if they'll put pave diamonds on the basket. That adds a little "camouflage" to the basket. Good luck!

 

[WinkHPD]

thanks for the reply!

the ring i wanted to get made is a round stone with marquise side stones. i hate that metal "housing" (don't know what to call it) as it covers the diamond on the sides.

my jeweler is telling me it will be more secure with the housing but i don't see how or if a prong gets loose, how that housing will help keep the diamond from falling out

does my jeweler have a point??

He does. If you want to use a peg setting like the one you want and two more peg settings for the marquise diamonds, you can do so, but it will look way weird and sit way high. The base and the prongs are thicker than the basket settings that you show and thus do not require the gallery to lend stabilization of the smaller diameter prongs in the basket settings. Think of the gallery like trusses on a bridge. Without them the bridge might last for a short time, but with them the bridge can last for generations.

If you build a basket style mounting without the gallery work and with thin prongs, you may like the look for a while, but eventually you will end up with a few prongs and no diamond. I am guessing you will not like that look much at all. The gallery might well be designed thinner, but at some point it will become too weak to do the job.

Just my thoughts.

Wink

 

[Ally T]

My pear diamond fell out of its setting after 8 weeks. It didn't have the girdle part underneath that held & supported the claws. The front v-prong had taken a slight snag whilst fastening my daughter into her car seat. Luckily I found it. I would definitely get the stronger support!