Cause for hope - they system cranks to life again...

[ksinger]

I nearly cheered when I read this today. The Maher Arar case made me ashamed to be an American. The subsequent refusal of our government to admit wrongdoing made me doubly ashamed. Perhaps now I will begin to raise my head again.

US reopening review of torture charges

 

[MoonWater]

Watch it Karen. Someone may claim you are unpatriotic!

 

[ksinger]

Date: 6/6/2008 10:20:54 AM
Author: MoonWater
Watch it Karen. Someone may claim you are unpatriotic!

Yeah I know, I know...sigh.... I''m a bad person to not recognize that every action of our government (like it isn''t comprised of flawed individuals) is completely beyond reproach.

 

[coatimundi_org]

Cheers to your cheer!

I also got mondo excited when I heard this:

Interview with former US Attorney David Iglesias

 

[iheartscience]

Wow, ksinger/Karen, I think I agree with everything I''ve ever seen you post! First the Duggar thread, then the McCain thread, now this...I think I have a cyber crush on you!

 

[ksinger]

Date: 6/9/2008 12:25:41 AM
Author: thing2of2
Wow, ksinger/Karen, I think I agree with everything I''ve ever seen you post! First the Duggar thread, then the McCain thread, now this...I think I have a cyber crush on you!

LOL! I''m sure that''s a first. I''ll mark it on my calendar.

(Today: Someone agreed totally with me. My quest for complete world domination is off to an auspicious start! Muwahahahahhaa!!)

And on that inevitable day, (oh...about 10 minutes from now, I''m guessing) when you DO disagree feel free to hammer me and point out how horribly flawed my reasons are. I won''t mind.

 

[iheartscience]

Date: 6/9/2008 8:26:31 AM
Author: ksinger

Date: 6/9/2008 12:25:41 AM

Author: thing2of2

Wow, ksinger/Karen, I think I agree with everything I''ve ever seen you post! First the Duggar thread, then the McCain thread, now this...I think I have a cyber crush on you!

LOL! I''m sure that''s a first. I''ll mark it on my calendar.

(Today: Someone agreed totally with me. My quest for complete world domination is off to an auspicious start! Muwahahahahhaa!!)

And on that inevitable day, (oh...about 10 minutes from now, I''m guessing) when you DO disagree feel free to hammer me and point out how horribly flawed my reasons are. I won''t mind.

Hahaha-will do!

 

[sbde]

Did you happen to catch the movie Rendition (Reese Witherspoon, Meryl Streep and Jake Gyllenhaal)? It touched on this very issue, and I thought it was a very powerful movie.

 

[ksinger]

Date: 6/9/2008 10:20:25 AM
Author: sbde
Did you happen to catch the movie Rendition (Reese Witherspoon, Meryl Streep and Jake Gyllenhaal)? It touched on this very issue, and I thought it was a very powerful movie.

No, I didn''t. I saw the trailers for it though, and said no way. I find I cannot watch movies like that without being upset for quite a long time. I didn''t go to see Syriana either, for the same reason. I did see about the first 20 minutes of it not too long ago, and even just that confirmed my initial suspicion that I shouldn''t watch it. Gruesome and brutal. I''m sure Rendition was very good, but I just wasn''t up to it...

And one night I actually watched Monster. Kinda wished I hadn''t watched it either. I certainly wouldn''t see it twice. Great acting, and a vision of reality I could do without. (shudder)

 

[ksinger]

I kind of think of this thread as all things "torture". That said, George F. Will rips McCain a new one in this piece about the Supremes'' ruling on detainees'' habeas rights.

Contempt Of Courts - McCain''s Posturing On Guantanamo