Crushed ice cushion brilliance (contrast)

[Ibrakeforpossums]

Oic…yah I put it in stonealgo. It looks like 0.58 carat.

the way I see it is that the other 4.9mm diamonds ain’t cheaper so I’m ok with that. Unless small spread has other issue than face up size

What is a stonealgo?
BTW, you have beautiful hands.

 

[smallricey]

The spread = 0.51ct round equivalent.

Yah 0.5 carat of the round diamond. I think stonealgo has better algo to compare against other cushion. It would be comparable to an avg 0.58 cushion diamond. Gotta compare Apple to Apple. Else pear would win all the time yah?

 

[smallricey]

What is a stonealgo?
BTW, you have beautiful hands.

Stonealgo.com
I think it uses its own existing database as an avg to compare against each other with the same shape.

that’s my wife, indeed she does! Thank you

 

[Tourmaline]

I didn’t want a cushion stone that resemble the round brilliant cut and didn’t rly care for the antique look. Let’s be honest, antique cut is out of my price range anyway. I had $3-4k all in budget, obviously lower the better.

Not liking the look of an old cut is a reason not to get one, but you could have gotten an incredibly beautiful one weighing more than what you got, for your budget.

 

[smallricey]

Not liking the look of an old cut is a reason not to get one, but you could have gotten an incredibly beautiful one weighing more than what you got, for your budget.

I still could till end of month. Appreciate if y’all throw some top end crashes Ice cut my way.

 

[Ibrakeforpossums]

I just realize these posts are from the male counterpart of the lovely hands in the video. Do we have any idea what she prefers? Does she have any say in the budget?
Tourmaline, I think you were brushed off, as was I.
I could say more.

 

[smallricey]

I just realize these posts are from the male counterpart of the lovely hands in the video. Do we have any idea what she prefers? Does she have any say in the budget?
Tourmaline, I think you were brushed off, as was I.
I could say more.

We decide the ring together, u could see post#31 for preference. I think the top end of the crushed ice appearance is in white flash’s cushion guide, no? I don’t think think the previous recommendation resemble the look. Also it cost 70-80% mor

the preferred diamond has to be square not elongated. She likes halo for the square cushion and solitaire for round brilliant. h color/ Vs2 or above.

do you absolutely need aset image to know if it’s great crushed ice cut or not?

 

[Tourmaline]

I still could till end of month. Appreciate if y’all throw some top end crashes Ice cut my way.

Crushed ice diamonds are ugly. They are badly cut. We don’t recommend them.

 

[smallricey]

Crushed ice diamonds are ugly. They are badly cut. We don’t recommend them.

I mean you don't have to like them lol.

 

[Tourmaline]

I mean you don't have to like them lol.

People on Pricescope do not like them.

Here is a fantastic round brilliant:

Diamond | 0.703 ct H VS1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4278328

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 0.703 carat H color VS1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4278328

www.whiteflash.com

 

[smallricey]

People on Pricescope do not like them.

Here is a fantastic round brilliant:

Diamond | 0.703 ct H VS1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4278328

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 0.703 carat H color VS1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4278328

www.whiteflash.com

I have seen some appreciation thread for it in pricescope, but it's fine if you don't like them. Apparently there are still a variant of crushed ice like someone point out here in this thread or in Whiteflash and GOG, and that's the reason for this thread. In order to find out what exactly is a top end crushed ice should look like.

I usually wouldn't respond, but I'm not brushing anyone off. The stone here is $3500. When I said $3-4k all in meaning including the setting. I think going to solitaire would require 6-6.5mm round to match the current halo overall size. That's another reason that we choose the cushion. Honestly it's just a different look.

Thanks tho

 

[Lookinagain]

Crushed ice diamonds are ugly. They are badly cut. We don’t recommend them.

But the OP and his wife like them. So that's what counts. I think he just wants to know if he can get a better "crushed ice" cushion. He's not looking for an MRB. So recommending them isn't going to help him out. They want crushed ice. Up to them.

 

[Tourmaline]

But the OP and his wife like them. So that's what counts. I think he just wants to know if he can get a better "crushed ice" cushion. He's not looking for an MRB. So recommending them isn't going to help him out. They want crushed ice. Up to them.

As far as I know, there is no such thing as a top end crushed ice cut diamond. The very term “crushed ice” is considered to mean poorly cut. If you’d like to recommend something you think would fit the bill here, go right ahead.

OP, you had said you wanted either a crushed ice cushion halo or a round brilliant solitaire. There are many places to get a simple solitaire for less than $500, setting included. As people here don’t recommend crushed ice diamonds, you may not find the help you are seeking. Good luck to you and your wife with whatever you end up buying and/or keeping. I’m bowing out now.

 

[smallricey]

maybe I struck a nerve with the comment on antique cut or tourmaline just rly hate crushed ice lol. Who knows.

 

[Karl_K]

If I may,
When people think of crushed ice as very bad they are thinking of mushy stones that have many small areas incapable of returning light at a reasonable level. Yea they suck badly.

On the other hand you have some fairly rare stones who show a whole lot, even into the thousands of small points of light when they are in the right lighting. That is good crushed ice. Now even then in diffused soft lighting they are not that great but given the right lighting. wow
There are people that love that effect.
What makes for good crushed ice? uniform small areas of intense light return evenly distributed over the stone in strong lighting.

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

Crushed ice diamonds are ugly. They are badly cut. We don’t recommend them.

Crushed ice is a personal preference. It is a nice interesting look for people with great close up vision.
We = PriceScope and 'we' like to help people get what they like.
We could possibly help find diamonds cut the way fancy yellow diamonds are cut that also show crushed ice around the crown facets?

 

[Lookinagain]

As far as I know, there is no such thing as a top end crushed ice cut diamond. The very term “crushed ice” is considered to mean poorly cut. If you’d like to recommend something you think would fit the bill here, go right ahead.

I didn't say that there was. I said he wanted to know if he could get a better "crushed ice". I didn't say if they existed or if they didn't. But I did say that if he wants a crushed ice cushion and he's already said he doesn't want an MRB at this point, then they have made up their mind as to what they want. No reason to say that I thought there were "top end" crushed ice. I didn't. However, there may be better ones than the ones he has.

 

[APlaceForEverything]

Today I learned I have a crushed ice cushion

 

[smallricey]

If I may,
When people think of crushed ice as very bad they are thinking of mushy stones that have many small areas incapable of returning light at a reasonable level. Yea they suck badly.

On the other hand you have some fairly rare stones who show a whole lot, even into the thousands of small points of light when they are in the right lighting. That is good crushed ice. Now even then in diffused soft lighting they are not that great but given the right lighting. wow
There are people that love that effect.
What makes for good crushed ice? uniform small areas of intense light return evenly distributed over the stone in strong lighting.

Thanks for the help Karl.
Yah gog always has 1 rly bad slushy and watery diamond that pretty much has no fire at the center.
Good explaination

 

[smallricey]

Crushed ice is a personal preference. It is a nice interesting look for people with great close up vision.
We = PriceScope and 'we' like to help people get what they like.
We could possibly help find diamonds cut the way fancy yellow diamonds are cut that also show crushed ice around the crown facets?

Interestingly, I thought the crushed ice yellow physically looks fantastic with the watery see through facets.

The fancy yellow topic actually came up. Since I read laurenB or someone here is rly gd at finding gd xyz yellow. But she doesn’t want yellow diamond. So that’s that.

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

Interestingly, I thought the crushed ice yellow physically looks fantastic with the watery see through facets.

The fancy yellow topic actually came up. Since I read laurenB or someone here is rly gd at finding gd xyz yellow. But she doesn’t want yellow diamond. So that’s that.

I am not suggesting a colored diamond - just that this is how the best colored diamonds are faceted. You might like one like this in colorless?

 

[smallricey]

I am not suggesting a colored diamond - just that this is how the best colored diamonds are faceted. You might like one like this in colorless?

Got it, I believe they have similar if not the same facet patterns. Thx for the example.

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

Got it, I believe they have similar if not the same facet patterns. Thx for the example.

No. And it is not simply facet pattern - it is also proportion based.
Take this stone for example - if it were colorless it would appear more like yours - notice the crown facets are paler

0.70 Carat cushion modified diamond

This cushion modified cut 0.7 carat Fancy Light Yellow color vs2 clarity has a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

 

[smallricey]

No. And it is not simply facet pattern - it is also proportion based.
Take this stone for example - if it were colorless it would appear more like yours - notice the crown facets are paler

0.70 Carat cushion modified diamond

This cushion modified cut 0.7 carat Fancy Light Yellow color vs2 clarity has a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

yes, does that mean it holds less yellow light hence light leakage?

so this would be worse than the first one you posted. Correct? I would’ve thought the second one is better since the cut is more symmetric looking.

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

yes, does that mean it holds less yellow light hence light leakage?

Not quite - does this help?

 

[smallricey]

Not quite - does this help?

So the in fancy diamond the cut I have is whiter, since the light does not bounce around as much, which should be better if we want to see some light return, yes? It should return more light than long ray bouncing around inside the diamond.

 

[lovedogs]

I don't think crushed ice diamonds are ugly at all. Some are nice. Others are mushy and leaky. It just depends on the stone

 

[Texas Leaguer]

However I don’t think it has any contrast at all
Is it because crushed ice r all like that?

Crushed ice is a different "flavor" of light performance characterized by myriad small virtual facets. The designed-in contrast seen in brilliant styles or "chunky" cushions is present only to a limited extent in crushed ice and usually scattered throughout the stone. You therefore don't notice it in the overall appearance of the stone.

As others have said the best crushed ice specimens have a balanced distribution of high angle and low angle light return and leakage. It is counter intuitive but scattered small leakages adjacent to virtual facets returning light creates some dynamic contrast which contributes to the subtle twinkle which gives crushed ice its unique appeal.