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Art Nouveau

Art Nouveau

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Happy Easter Everyone!

My next project is to make a diamond pendant out of a 1.67 carat round brilliant diamond which is curretnly in a ring that I am not wearing anymore. The design that I have in mind requires three briolette diamonds. I am not sure what size, but I am guessing one ~ 0.75 carats, and 2 ~0.5 carats each. The color and clarity do not have to be great, but I want a good cut and the shape to be more like a tear drop. Does anybody have any idea what these costs and a good source to get them? At this point, I just want to find out if the design I have in miind is feasible at a reasonable price. If the briolettes cost too much, I have to think of an alternative design.

Art Nouveau
 
Ever think of using natural gemstone briolettes instead? They would certainly make the project more affordable. White Topaz or Clear Quartz would give you that diamond-like look.
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But gems with some color would be even more beautiful. I think briolette morganites (soft pink color) would be stunning!
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Thanks for the suggestion. Actually, color gemstone briolettes would be my second choice. I don''t like white topaz because they don''t look brilliant enough.
 
I''ve also been trying to find prices for diamond briolettes and haven''t had much luck.

Stuller has them in smaller sizes (.2, 0.25 and 0.33 approx ct weight), the largest they carried was 4x3mm, but the prices aren''t public so you''d have to get a jeweler to call for you.

While I was googling to find sources I came up with these 2 sites, also only wholesale but you could have whoever would be making this for you call and get prices.
http://www.antiquediamond.com/main.htm
http://www.manakjewels.com/about_us.php

Please post and let me know what you find out since I''m looking too! Sounds like a gorgeous project btw!
 
Thank you for the links. I can call Manak tomorrow to see what they have. I have asked some diamond dealers that I know about the briolettes and nobody seems anxious to help me. I was told the briolettes are mostly cut in India and quality is not good. I spoke to a designer last week and she told me the shape that I want is hard to come by. Most diamond briolettes are cut kind of roundish to retain weight.
 
Would rose cut diamonds come in tear drop shapes? This might also reduce the cost as they tend to face up a bit larger than other cutting styles.

They might look briolette-like, but I guess you''d need to think about how you''d attach them!
 
Second the bit about shape - you may end up with the usual ''barrel'' shaped diamond drops, but those aren''t bad either.

It may be easier to find a jewelry designer who already works with diamond briolettes and has the right supply at hand. You may want to consider Karen Belifer''s shop (LINK).

Colored briolettes would likely be allot easier to come by finely cut (and IMO, that makes more difference for them than for diamond briolettes). One source could be THIS, and... who knows, maybe one of the cutters posting here could help as well.

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How will the pendant look like?
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Thanks for the suggestions. Attached is a rough sketch that I drew of the pendant design that I have in mind. Haven''t had time to find photos for the parts necessary to make a Photoshop ''mock up'' yet. I am open to suggestiions. Thanks.

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Wowee, AN....that would be BEAUTIFUL!!!

I wouldn''t give up on the briolette search if I were you...

If you don''t have any luck, maybe "collet" set pears would be a possibility???? Here''s a picture of a rose cut pear on an old pendant...it doesn''t flip or anything...

GREAT PROJECT!!!! Keep us posted!
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Date: 4/17/2006 11:18:49 AM
Author: Art Nouveau

Haven''t had time to find photos for the parts necessary to make a Photoshop ''mock up'' yet. I am open to suggestiions.
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I am quite curious about how this one will be put together... so that the center piece (large diamond & frame) doesn''t look overly heavy relative to the dainty drops and diamond chain.
 
Beautifully shaped, rather tear-drop long and slender diamond briolettes are difficult to find. I imagine some exist on old items of fine quality, but loose ones, from new sources will be very scarce. These are mostly cut in rounded beads to keep their weight maximized and few are really attractive on their own. You might have one of the sources make you graduated sets of three to replace the concept of each long individual briolette. A small top, a medium middle and a slightly larger bottom stone for each set. Then you could use the typical round shapes that you can find.

Good hunting!
 
I saw a new necklace in the diamond district with briolettes. I love them. The woman said they could get loose ones in different sizes. I don''t remember where, but if your in the diamond district it''s worth a look.
 
forgive my ignorance, but would it be possible to buy rough and have someone cut them for you?
 
Date: 4/18/2006 8:55:06 PM
Author: rainbowtrout
forgive my ignorance, but would it be possible to buy rough and have someone cut them for you?
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''Guess so (for ''have them cut'' - buying diamond rough... not really, that remains the cutter''s duty), but it isn''t nearly as often done with diamonds as with colored gems. I don''t think I know anyone who had a diamond cut on order, although... perhaps it is feasible after all. What puts folks off is the requirement to trust the result and take up the risk that the process yields diamond dust only, or some variation on the grades and size hoped for. Perhaps there isn''t so much uncertainty involved, but not 0 either.

Another thing... the drawing seems to indicate peg set briolettes... and the vast majority of diamonds come with a horisontal hole, like these below. I wonder if having such stones set with a cap would not create the desired drop shape look.

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Thanks for everyone''s input. I called Manak about the diamond briolettes. They do carry them. I do not know what weight I need, so I asked for prices of 6 mm and 8 mm length. I was told 6 mm would be around 0.75 carats and 8 mm would be around 1.5 carats. The prices for H/VS stones are 1600 per carat for 6 mm and 3100 per carat for 8 mm stones. At those prices, the cost of the briolettes will be more than the value of the center diamond. and way more than what I would consider spending for this prooject. It is possible, if I can find tear-drop shaped ones, the weight can be lower. I also asked about how they are drilled and I was told they are drilled horizontal, just like the ones posted by Ana. I am not sure if this would work for the design I have in mind. I have a pair of earrings with briolettes, and they are set with a triangular shaped wire and a ring. Attached is a photo. The tear drop shape that I have drawn is probably too idealized. I will not be able to find diamond briolettes that look like that. I guess, before I give up the idea of using diamond briolettes, I will pay Manak a visit to see if they have anything suitable at an affordable price. Otherwise, I will go with pink sapphires. It would be great if the drops can be removable, so I can have several sets made in different colors to match my clothes. The Hillsborough Antique Show is coming up. I can also look for old ones and also rose-cuts

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Date: 4/17/2006 11:18:49 AM
Author: Art Nouveau

Haven't had time to find photos for the parts necessary to make a Photoshop 'mock up' yet. I am open to suggestioins.
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I gave it a (little) try and met a couple of problems - one: how could the 'dangles' be constructed so that they are not too flexible and tend to fly away long as they are, and two - how to make a squarish frame around a round diamond. Your earrings and a recent pair of earrings made by David Keeling solved the first problem ('knife edge' set drops, articulated) and the way some vintage rings are constructed with a larger stone encircled by small ones all set i bezels gave some potential solution for the other - using small side-stones of different sizes around the center. Some pictures from FayCullen.com helped.

The drops were inspired by the same earrings mentioned above, which also provided some encouragement that the vintage bits and pieces might actually be feasible here and now.

Sorry for the strange colors...
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Ana,

Thank you for taking the time to make the Photoshop creation. The way you made the frame around the center round diamond does give it a lighter look than the typical halo. This design goes well with the necklace that I intend to use with the pendant. It reminds me of vintage Victorian jewelry. I will go to the antique show next weekend to get more ideas.

Art Nouveau
 
Trying to find these unique shapes can be so frustrating! Your design will be beautiful, whether you end up finding the diamond or using sapphires. The colour might be nice in any case.

If you talk to Manak again could I possibly impose on you to ask for some prices for me?
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The jeweler I usually use wanted me to pretty much commit to buying them before he would even call to get prices for me
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I''m looking for 4 or 5 mm long briolettes and 3mm rose cuts. I would be so grateful! If not, I''ll just keep looking for a new jeweler.
 
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