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Diamonds for my 5 stone. Greater than .5ct

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YayTacori|1356857278|3342719 said:
[Thank you so much Phoenix for your kind words and helpful comments! It's hard tho, trying on bands. I think I have been to every jeweler here and those pictures of the 2ctw bands were the biggest anyone had and I can't even expect anyone to have ideal cut diamonds in their settings. Maybe DH will take me to a trip to Seattle and I can go take a look there. Because you are right, I don't wanna make a rash decision and mess this up.

Have you ever thought about doing another band but with smaller diamonds? And when are you getting your studs!
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You're very welcome, sweetie. I really wanna see you get the band of your dream!

If it's not too costly for you guys to go to Seattle or if it's part of your travel plan anyway, I'd def do it. It's worth exploring around.

I do have a full eternity of 25 pt's. I love it but it's really not blingy enough for me. I *might* do another full eternity with larger stones later but it's not a priority, at least not at the moment. A 5-stone band is not really for me, I don't think, due to my smaller hands.

Ugh, my studs? It's a bit frustrating at the moment. I've taken to wearing fake studs (GASP - God forbid!! :o ) purely b/c I really don't like seeing my ears nikked, and it's kind of weird being blinged out with Holly, my bracelet, band and yet no stud! I think I may've mentioned in another thread that BGD has tried to source me a stone to match the 2.374ct G "blue" but it turned out to be a Sign H, so that's like 3 shades lower. I've asked them to source me another one or even a larger one to match the 2.656ct H, whichever comes first; but I haven't heard anything back yet - I guess they've been rushed off their feet with the Christmas orders.

Now am thinking maybe I'll just go to 3ct each if I can. But my dilemma remains to sell or trade in some of my existing stones first. I really don't wish to spend fresh funds (at least not entirely) on another pair of studs. So who knows?! We'll see...
 
Enerchi said:
YayTacori|1356838405|3342625 said:
Enerchi|1356836728|3342604 said:
OMG!!! you guys are HILARIOUS!!

YayTacori said:
Mayk|1356832833|3342562 said:
You have to watch that Enerchi.... She's a bad bad influence. Very dangerous! :devil:
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Oh yes, I know how Enerchi can be. Don't worry tho. When she starts a thread about a new project I'm gonna make sure I am all over the place with different ideas. I have many many torturous idea brewing for dear Enerchi. :naughty: :naughty:
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm just CHEAP! that's all!! If you were hoping to find 5 x $1400 avg RB BGD H&A (H/I VS1-2 as an example) @ .50ishct = $7000 + setting, if instead you were to look for 7 x $900 avg RB BGD H&A @ .40ishct = $6300 + setting. Ok, not a HUGE saving and probably not enough to sway the jury, so to speak, but if you liked the way the .35's looked on your hand when you tried on the 7 stone before... you could save even more. AND... if Brian is heading to the cutter to select stones in January --- he could look specifically for 7 matched stones in your range! See - just being practical. :halo:

I am really loving the look of the 7 stone - but that's just me and I would rank finger width/cost/diamond size in that order - but we are all different. My IDJ band is 8 x .12 stones in a size 8, and it is NO WHERE NEAR the bling factor you are craving, nor is it trellis, but it is U mounted and I really love it. Not enough to wear on its own and impress a fussy SIL, mind you, but I could just imagine the power of the .30's - .40s you are considering and how BLINDING that would be - whether you stick with your original 5 stone plan or go to a 7. Sleep on it, mull it over, plan... don't rush into something ... and don't let my tangent throw you off your target!! (see, I can be practical too!)



But too funny!!! I'm going to have to watch what I ask advice about, what with you two on my tail and ready to 'enable' ME!!! :naughty:
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I don't think I need to sleep on it Enerchi. The 7-stone with 40ish pointers seems right. I have a really good feeling about it. I was starting to feel nervous, anxious and overwhelmed with how the 5-stone was going. But this 7-stone seems more doable and I would have more finger coverage. Plus, I'm probably gonna have about a 3ctw ring and that makes me happy :) And I was thinking that if I am going to go less than 50 pointers I may just go U prong. I like the big swoops of the trellis, and don't really care for the small swoops.

Would you happen to have any new pictures of your IDJ band? I think I have looked at every single one you have on PS. Some perspective shots to give me an idea of how a bigger ctw might look on me. This may be a silly question... but there is no way I can get claw prongs with U prongs huh? Can I get claw prongs with a trellis design? I see that you have claw prongs on your BGD princess. I think I can look past the small swoops if I could get claws...
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Here are a few I took this morning, just after getting up and checking on PS first (priorities, right??) so my hands are swollen to what feels like TWICE their normal size... ya, I'm a real stunner first thing in the morning... NOT!

So here are some shots of it on my hand, as well as closer shots and I also put the two together - U + Trellis, just as a comparison shot for you. Remember tho, mine are TEENY TINY in comparison to what you are looking at. These are .12's and you are looking for a 7(if that's still the last I remember...) of .30 - .40 range, so it would have MUCH more impact than this one does. But alone, and when my hand looks normal, it really is very beautiful! I think even if I'd had more money, for how I want to wear this particular ring, this is the right size for me. If it were to be a stand alone RHR, not one that I wear with my 3 stone or with my OEC, then I would have gone with larger stones but even for me, a band of 7 x .25's would have given ME the top of my finger coverage that I would have wanted.

My finger is a 7.75 (LH) and 8 (RH) so we are similar. Coverage with my fingers closed, at the base of my hand/finger, is 24mm pinky - middle finger. Here are more formula's:
7 x .20's (@ 3.8mm) = 26.6 mm + prong work.
7 x .25"s (@ 4mm) = 28mm + prongs
7 x .30's (@4.2mm) = 29.4mm + prongs
7 x .35's (@ 4.5mm) = 31.5mm + prongs
7 x .40's (@4.8mm) = 33.6mm + prongs

This is the chart I googled, if you are interested:
http://www.walshbrothers.co.uk/Update/dia04.htm

Info on the mm of prongs came up blank... I tried googling several permutations of that question and came up with nothing. I *THINK* I recall a PS thread at one point that said to allow for approx 1mm / prong... I THINK.

Hope that helps you in your planning... onto the pics! (I can only up load 4 @ a time... and I hope these are useful for you)
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Awww you are the sweetest Enerchi! And your hands look beautiful in the morning!!! Thanks for the chart and your pictures comparing the trellis and the U prong helped a lot! I think for the 7-stone I definitely want the U prong. It would be too many swoops and I think the diamonds would get lost. If I got a 5-stone, trellis is definitely the way to go. Your ring is so beautiful Enerchi! And it looks amazing on your hand!

I slept on my decisions and all I dreamt about was what decision I needed to make. People pressuring me to make a decision. I wish I had a peaceful night!

When you decided to go your 15 pointers, how did you come to that decision? How did you know that those diamonds were the right size?
 
Enerchi|1356877871|3342794 said:
My finger is a 7.75 (LH) and 8 (RH) so we are similar. Coverage with my fingers closed, at the base of my hand/finger, is 24mm pinky - middle finger. Here are more formula's:
7 x .20's (@ 3.8mm) = 26.6 mm + prong work.
7 x .25"s (@ 4mm) = 28mm + prongs
7 x .30's (@4.2mm) = 29.4mm + prongs
7 x .35's (@ 4.5mm) = 31.5mm + prongs
7 x .40's (@4.8mm) = 33.6mm + prongs

This is the chart I googled, if you are interested:
http://www.walshbrothers.co.uk/Update/dia04.htm

Info on the mm of prongs came up blank... I tried googling several permutations of that question and came up with nothing. I *THINK* I recall a PS thread at one point that said to allow for approx 1mm / prong... I THINK.

Hope that helps you in your planning... onto the pics! (I can only up load 4 @ a time... and I hope these are useful for you)
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Thanks for the formulas! We are close to the same size so, it's nice to see perspective on what rings would look good on similarly sized fingers!

YayTacori: It's way fun reading about what you are doing and living vicariously! :D If it were me I'd do a graduated 5 stone, in YG. :D BUT, I think whatever you go with will be BEAUTIFUL!
 
Phoenix|1356878467|3342803 said:
YayTacori|1356857278|3342719 said:
[Thank you so much Phoenix for your kind words and helpful comments! It's hard tho, trying on bands. I think I have been to every jeweler here and those pictures of the 2ctw bands were the biggest anyone had and I can't even expect anyone to have ideal cut diamonds in their settings. Maybe DH will take me to a trip to Seattle and I can go take a look there. Because you are right, I don't wanna make a rash decision and mess this up.

Have you ever thought about doing another band but with smaller diamonds? And when are you getting your studs!
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You're very welcome, sweetie. I really wanna see you get the band of your dream!

If it's not too costly for you guys to go to Seattle or if it's part of your travel plan anyway, I'd def do it. It's worth exploring around.

I do have a full eternity of 25 pt's. I love it but it's really not blingy enough for me. I *might* do another full eternity with larger stones later but it's not a priority, at least not at the moment. A 5-stone band is not really for me, I don't think, due to my smaller hands.

Ugh, my studs? It's a bit frustrating at the moment. I've taken to wearing fake studs (GASP - God forbid!! :o ) purely b/c I really don't like seeing my ears nikked, and it's kind of weird being blinged out with Holly, my bracelet, band and yet no stud! I think I may've mentioned in another thread that BGD has tried to source me a stone to match the 2.374ct G "blue" but it turned out to be a Sign H, so that's like 3 shades lower. I've asked them to source me another one or even a larger one to match the 2.656ct H, whichever comes first; but I haven't heard anything back yet - I guess they've been rushed off their feet with the Christmas orders.

Now am thinking maybe I'll just go to 3ct each if I can. But my dilemma remains to sell or trade in some of my existing stones first. I really don't wish to spend fresh funds (at least not entirely) on another pair of studs. So who knows?! We'll see...
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Your poor poor naked ears! They must be so cold! And the fakies don't do the same job of keeping them warm as the real stuff would.

I do know about BGD trying to source a stone to match your 2.374 G Blue... it's frustrating trying to find a specific diamond. The 3ct sounds like a good idea. Do they have matching 3cts more readily available than the 2ishct?

I think BGD is very busy because the last time I got an email from Jamie was early morning on Friday. She usually gets back to me within 24 hours. She even emailed me on Christmas Eve and Christmas. Maybe they are taking a little break or they are super duper busy :)

I saw a 2.472 H Blue. Is this the H that you thought was a Blue but ended up being a sig by mistake?
 
I think it depends on the look you want--with 5 larger stones, the diamonds will be bigger/blingier and you will be able to see each individual diamond more clearly. With 7 slightly smaller stones, you will get more horizontal coverage. It might look like all of the diamonds blend together more, but the coverage will go all the way across your finger and the sides of your finger won't be nekkid.
 
I'm a bit slow so maybe I missed it ::) but why not AVR's?? There are a few available in the .5x j-k color right now, around $1400. I think they would complement your ering wonderfully (LOVE the tacori!!)

Can't wait to see what you come up with!

Ok, I'll admit, I'm enabling because my next project will likely be an AVR five stone in a trellis!! DOOOOO IIIIIITTTTTT!!!!!! :naughty:


ETA: Check out the Vatche five stone trellis too!

:love: :love: :love: :love: :love: https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/its-here-avr-band.166019/?hilit=vatche august vintage :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:
 
VS2 clarity is a good bit more than SI1, for one thing. Even on BG, a half carat H VS2 is $400 more than an H SI1.

Infinity is mainly marketed through jewelry stores and the prices are higher across the board. Good Old Old is also a brick and mortar store and they also offer some extra services so their prices can be a little higher at times. But you can't compare VS2 prices to SI1, and the GOG stone was VS. The Infinity stone was .48 so it would be more because of size, partially.
 
diamondseeker2006|1356899296|3342966 said:
VS2 clarity is a good bit more than SI1, for one thing. Even on BG, a half carat H VS2 is $400 more than an H SI1.

Infinity is mainly marketed through jewelry stores and the prices are higher across the board. Good Old Old is also a brick and mortar store and they also offer some extra services so their prices can be a little higher at times. But you can't compare VS2 prices to SI1, and the GOG stone was VS. The Infinity stone was .48 so it would be more because of size, partially.
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Thanks DS. I feel like mind has shriveled up these past few days and numbers and letters seem to be a blur :errrr:
 
shimmer|1356899079|3342961 said:
I'm a bit slow so maybe I missed it ::) but why not AVR's?? There are a few available in the .5x j-k color right now, around $1400. I think they would complement your ering wonderfully (LOVE the tacori!!)

Can't wait to see what you come up with!

Ok, I'll admit, I'm enabling because my next project will likely be an AVR five stone in a trellis!! DOOOOO IIIIIITTTTTT!!!!!! :naughty:


ETA: Check out the Vatche five stone trellis too!

:love: :love: :love: :love: :love: https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/its-here-avr-band.166019/?hilit=vatche august vintage :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:
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I can't wait for your next project shimmer!!! AVR 5-stone trellis sounds divine!!! But, for myself, I am pretty set on MRBs. It was either actual OECs or MRBs for me. I did consider AVRS, but as much as they are amazingly beautiful, I loved their old cut and it seems most of them are the new cuts now. I believe DS is having an issue with that too.

But that thread was super super helpful Shimmer! There was a picture comparison of AVR and MRB 5-stone and those pictures were so fun and educational to look at!
 
YayTacori|1356899974|3342975 said:
diamondseeker2006|1356899296|3342966 said:
VS2 clarity is a good bit more than SI1, for one thing. Even on BG, a half carat H VS2 is $400 more than an H SI1.

Infinity is mainly marketed through jewelry stores and the prices are higher across the board. Good Old Old is also a brick and mortar store and they also offer some extra services so their prices can be a little higher at times. But you can't compare VS2 prices to SI1, and the GOG stone was VS. The Infinity stone was .48 so it would be more because of size, partially.
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Thanks DS. I feel like mind has shriveled up these past few days and numbers and letters seem to be a blur :errrr:
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I will tell you, I have almost driven myself crazy trying to match 5 AVR's. The only way I could do it is to match 3 different colors and I am far too afraid to do that! Plus I really need to hold out for a large one. But I understand. I do think you need to measure the finger area you want to cover because according to Enerchi's measurements, I think 7 40 pointers still might be too wide for your finger.

(Jut saw your last post..all of the small AVR's were the old style, I believe.)
 
diamondseeker2006|1356900686|3342993 said:
YayTacori|1356899974|3342975 said:
diamondseeker2006|1356899296|3342966 said:
VS2 clarity is a good bit more than SI1, for one thing. Even on BG, a half carat H VS2 is $400 more than an H SI1.

Infinity is mainly marketed through jewelry stores and the prices are higher across the board. Good Old Old is also a brick and mortar store and they also offer some extra services so their prices can be a little higher at times. But you can't compare VS2 prices to SI1, and the GOG stone was VS. The Infinity stone was .48 so it would be more because of size, partially.
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Thanks DS. I feel like mind has shriveled up these past few days and numbers and letters seem to be a blur :errrr:
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I will tell you, I have almost driven myself crazy trying to match 5 AVR's. The only way I could do it is to match 3 different colors and I am far too afraid to do that! Plus I really need to hold out for a large one. But I understand. I do think you need to measure the finger area you want to cover because according to Enerchi's measurements, I think 7 40 pointers still might be too wide for your finger.

(Jut saw your last post..all of the small AVR's were the old style, I believe.)
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Oh good, because for some reason some looked the same but other's looked different than I remember.

As for the 7 40 pointers still being too wide, did you take a look at the link that Hoover posted? http://jewelsbyericagrace.smugmug.c...stone/26945891_x9XG6d#!i=2258549648&k=zmM8BkQ
It has 50 pointers and 3.5ctw...
It's a size 9 which is pretty much my size... but do you think it has a bling factor? Like Phoenix's old ring had? Funny, the rings only have .35 or so mm difference but the 5-stone looks sooooo much bigger. Is it because of the setting or because it is on Grace's pinky and a size 4.5?

In case you didn't know, on occasion, I want to wear this band with my Ering. I'm concerned if I get the 5-stone, it will be too overwhelming with mt Ering. And the 7-stone might be better. But would the 7-stone be blingy enough as a stand alone ring...

I am SERIOUSLY driving myself mad with these details!
 
The 5 stone will be impossible with an e-ring, and seriously why would you ever do that when you have a perfect wedding set already??? I would not consider that. I am thinking about what would look most balanced with your wedding set if you wore this ring on your RH. How many mm wide are your e-ring and w-band? Both rings will sit too high to wear with your e-ring anyway.

I looked at that JBEG ring again and I see the stones are 4.85-4.99 which indicates to me that they are likely not ideal cut because I think they should be about 5.1mm if .50 and ideal cut.
 
diamondseeker2006|1356902379|3343014 said:
The 5 stone will be impossible with an e-ring, and seriously why would you ever do that when you have a perfect wedding set already??? I would not consider that. I am thinking about what would look most balanced with your wedding set if you wore this ring on your RH. How many mm wide are your e-ring and w-band? Both rings will sit too high to wear with your e-ring anyway.

I looked at that JBEG ring again and I see the stones are 4.85-4.99 which indicates to me that they are likely not ideal cut because I think they should be about 5.1mm if .50 and ideal cut.
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Oh, I'm not considering buying the ring. I was just looking at it for size reference only. I can tell those diamonds are not likely ideal cut.

I know I have a wedding set already, but I guess I just wanted the option of being able so switch it up. I sometimes get a little bored looking at the same thing and DSS kicks in often.

My ering and wedding band is the same mm. It's about 23mm.
 
And DS, could I mention again how much I appreciate your help and everything you are doing for me. It really means a lot. And I know I must be driving you crazy! I'm driving myself crazy and it's my ring! So, I just wanted to say thank you so so so much! :appl: :appl: :love: :love:
 
Oh, you are very sweet to say that, but it is fun for me to attempt to help! But as always, the advice is always influenced by the preferences of the advisor!!! :lol:

I actually meant the width of the bands the other way. I would guess they are maybe 4mm wide? I am thinking you might should get 5 half carat stones for a RHR. Neither one would work with your e-ring because the height would not match.
 
diamondseeker2006|1356904390|3343045 said:
Oh, you are very sweet to say that, but it is fun for me to attempt to help! But as always, the advice is always influenced by the preferences of the advisor!!! :lol:

I actually meant the width of the bands the other way. I would guess they are maybe 4mm wide? I am thinking you might should get 5 half carat stones for a RHR. Neither one would work with your e-ring because the height would not match.
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Yes about 4 or 5mm.

I talked to DH and he loves the 7-stone look for me. But he also told to get whatever makes me happy cuz I'm gonna be the one wearing it. But he likes the idea that 7-stone will give me more horizontal coverage.

He says buy whatever diamond. :appl: But oh... now its given me another window getting the go ahead for whatever I want.... :errrr: :angryfire:
 
I just think five 5.2mm stones is going to really cover as much as a 5 stone ring should on your size finger. I think you might have to go under .40 if you want 7 stones. Five .30's would cover the top of my finger, so I am sure seven .30's would work for you! But that is a different look than 5 larger stones. Both will cover the top and upper side of your finger, but it just depends on which look you prefer.

Glad to hear your hubby is on board with either one! :appl:
 
Thanks DS. I know I just need to make a firm decision and stick with it. I'm sure if I find the right diamond, it'll speak to me. I feel like the available 40 pointers and 50 pointers are not right for me...

Phoenix, do you happen to still have any saved pictures of your 5-stone that you haven't posted? And what trellis design was it? I saw on BGD there is an A and B. Or was your's totally different. Please indulge a crazy woman with new pictures :)
 
YT,

Unfortunately, I don't have any other pics of the 5-stone band other than those posted on the relevant thread. Is there anything in particular you'd like to know? I can try and recall from memory.

The band I chose was this (I can't believe how much it's gone up by! :o ): I wish I'd kept it; could be giving it to you instead (I think I got a measly $100 or so credit for it!!)
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/wedding-and-anniversary-bands/eternity-bands/five-stone-trellis-band-ii-platinum-5400p""""

That H "blue" you posted is a "blue" and it doesn't match my 2.374ct G or the 2.656ct H size wise unfortunately. The one they sourced for me was supposed to be a match (don't know if they thought it was a "blue" or whether just a regular G), but it ended up being graded a regular H. I'd have taken a regular G but a regular H is too low down the scale compared to my "blue" G, which because of the fluor, looks more like an F.

Non-BGD 3ct's, as with other sizes, are in plentiful supply. I'd be great if I could get BGD stones but I can't really afford (or rather would not want to pay) for their 3ct stones - not in G and H colours anyway due to the higher cost involved. And the other 3ct's they have are J, K and L. So for me, it's either two matching BGD stones (blue or otherwise) in the 2ct category or 3ct's non-BGD.

That is unless, Brian is willing to cut me two 3ct's I Si1. I'd def go for those, preferably wt blue fluor.
 
I just noticed you changed your "name" to YT! That is a little easier to write (although everyone calls me DS since mine is too long, too!).
 
I WANT MY RING NOW!!!
 
Can't wait to see your finished ring! I am dying for a 5-stone!
 
purplesparklies|1356999160|3344168 said:
Can't wait to see your finished ring! I am dying for a 5-stone!
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Let's all get one!!!
 
YT|1357000245|3344255 said:
purplesparklies|1356999160|3344168 said:
Can't wait to see your finished ring! I am dying for a 5-stone!
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Let's all get one!!!
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Yes! Think my hubby will agree? But, Mr.Cozystitches, Yt and PurpleSparklies and just EVERYONE on PS has one!!! Where's the pitiful smilie????
 
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