Email about Our Pres

[MissAva]

I have gotten this email from several people in the last week...anyone else get this?
WOULDN''T IT BE GREAT TO TURN ON THE TV AND HEAR ANY U.S. PRESIDENT,
>DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN GIVE THE FOLLOWING SPEECH?
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>My Fellow Americans: As you all know, the defeat of Iraq regime has been
>completed.
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>Since congress does not want to spend any more money on this war, our
>mission in Iraq is complete.
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>This morning I gave the order for a complete removal of all American forces
>from Iraq. This action will be complete within 30 days. It is now to begin
>the reckoning.
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>Before me, I have two lists. One list contains the names of countries which
>have stood by our side during the Iraq conflict. This list is short. The
>United Kingdom, Spain, Bulgaria, Australia, and Poland are some of the
>countries listed there.
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>The other list contains everyone not on the first list. Most of the world''s
>nations are on that list. My press secretary will be distributing copies of
>both lists later this evening.
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>Let me start by saying that effective immediately, foreign aid to those
>nations on List 2 ceases immediately and indefinitely. The money saved
>during the first year alone will pretty much pay for the costs of the Iraqi
>war.
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>The American people are no longer going to pour money into third world
>Hell-holes and watch those government leaders grow fat on corruption.
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>Need help with a famine? Wrestling with an epidemic? Call France.
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>In the future, together with Congress, I will work to redirect this money
>toward solving the vexing social problems we still have at home. On that
>note, a word to terrorist organizations. Screw with us and we will hunt you
>down and eliminate you and all your friends from the face of the earth.
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>Thirsting for a gutsy country to terrorize? Try France, or maybe China. I
>am ordering the immediate severing of diplomatic relations with France,
>Germany, and Russia. Thanks for all your help, comrades. We are retiring
>from NATO as well. Bon chance, mes amis.
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>I have instructed the Mayor of New York City to begin towing the many UN
>diplomatic vehicles located in Manhattan with more than two unpaid parking
>tickets to sites where those vehicles will be stripped, shredded and
>crushed I don''t care about whatever treaty pertains to this. You creeps
>have tens of thousands of unpaid tickets. Pay those tickets tomorrow or
>watch your precious Benzes, Beamers and limos be turned over to some of the
>finest chop shops in the world. I love New York .
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>A special note to our neighbors. Canada is on List 2. Since we are likely
>to be seeing a lot more of each other, you folks might want to try not
>pissing us off for a change.
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>Mexico is also on List 2. President Fox and his entire corrupt government
>really need an attitude adjustment. I will have a couple extra tank and
>infantry divisions sitting around. Guess where I am going to put em? Yep,
>border security. So start doing something with your oil.
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>Oh, by the way, the United States is abrogating the NAFTA treaty - starting
>now.
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>We are tired of the one-way highway. Immediately, we''ll be drilling for oil
>in Alaska - which will take care of this country''s oil needs for decades to
>come. If you''re an environmentalist who opposes this decision, I refer you
>to List 2 above: pick a country and move there. They care.
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>It is time for America to focus on its own welfare and its own citizens.
>Some will accuse us of isolationism. I answer them by saying,
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>"Darn Tootin."
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>Nearly a century of trying to help folks live a decent life around the
>world has only earned us the undying enmity of just about everyone on the
>planet. It is time to eliminate hunger in America. It is time to eliminate
>homelessness in America. It is time to eliminate World Cup Soccer from
>America. To the nations on List 1, a final thought. Thanks guys. We owe you
>and we won''t forget.
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>To the nations on List 2, a final thought: You might want to learn to
>speak Arabic.
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>God bless America. Thank you and good night.
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>If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English,
>thank a soldier.

 

[ammayernyc]

I thankfully have never received it.

 

[cinnabar]

I agree with the bit about towing diplomats'' cars if they have unpaid parking tickets.

 

[MINE!!]

LOL.. I think that is friggin AWESOME!!

 

[tanuki]

I had the experience of getting a few of these e-mails from someone who had me on their list (possibly my cousin) and only sent one reply
- a polite reply in which I just forwarded them a copy of Michael Moore''s "A day in the life of Joe Conservative".
What happened was I was just deleted from the list. Never got another one.

 

[movie zombie]

like your style, tanuki! i just considered it another piece of trash and deleted it [eta: when i rec'd it a month ago].

peace, movie zombie

 

[hlmr]

I actually felt sick to my stomach after reading this. It is very disturbing to think people actually value this type of talk.

Heather

 

[fire&ice]

So, nobody gets tired of the US giving aid & we just get sh*t on?

No good deed goes unpunished. No good deed is remembered.

Edited to add: I find it odd that no one seems to grasp that France, Germany & Russia isn't being altruistic. It was all about money with Iraq. We killed their golden goose.

 

[tanuki]

It''s just that (assuming the war costs 5 Billion dollars a month) what we spend on a year''s worth of Foreign Aid is equal to less than three months payment for the cost for the war.

It''s more upsetting to me that we are borrowing the money to pay for the war from other countries.

We are the world''s largest debtor nation.
Seven Trillion dollars in debt (and counting).
How come America is borrowing so much money?

If you look at what happened to the foreign aid that we gave to those corrupt dictators - they wasted the money and the country was left with no improvement in their infrastructure and saddled with generations of debt.

Kinda makes you go "Hmmmmm"

 

[MINE!!]

Personally, I love it. Maybe a few more people should squirm over the thought that they would have to fend for themselves.

 

[movie zombie]

Date: 12/6/2005 6:56:18 PM
Author: tanuki
It''s just that (assuming the war costs 5 Billion dollars a month) what we spend on a year''s worth of Foreign Aid is equal to less than three months payment for the cost for the war.

It''s more upsetting to me that we are borrowing the money to pay for the war from other countries.

We are the world''s largest debtor nation.
Seven Trillion dollars in debt (and counting).
How come America is borrowing so much money?

If you look at what happened to the foreign aid that we gave to those corrupt dictators - they wasted the money and the country was left with no improvement in their infrastructure and saddled with generations of debt.

Kinda makes you go ''Hmmmmm''

makes a thinking person go "HMMMMMM".


peace, movie zombie

 

[fire&ice]

Date: 12/6/2005 11:19:46 PM
Author: movie zombie

Date: 12/6/2005 6:56:18 PM
Author: tanuki
It''s just that (assuming the war costs 5 Billion dollars a month) what we spend on a year''s worth of Foreign Aid is equal to less than three months payment for the cost for the war.

It''s more upsetting to me that we are borrowing the money to pay for the war from other countries.

We are the world''s largest debtor nation.
Seven Trillion dollars in debt (and counting).
How come America is borrowing so much money?

If you look at what happened to the foreign aid that we gave to those corrupt dictators - they wasted the money and the country was left with no improvement in their infrastructure and saddled with generations of debt.

Kinda makes you go ''Hmmmmm''

makes a thinking person go ''HMMMMMM''.


peace, movie zombie

No, it makes a *negative* thinking person go "HMMMMM"

And, makes good case to the original post.

 

[AGBF]

The letter is silly. The tragic part is that President Bush actually acts as if such a stance would be possible and good. How smart to pull all aid from the countries with starving masses in Africa to punish them for failing to muster an army to join us in invading Iraq! Oh, yes, and let's sever ties with the countries upon whom we rely for trade.

This is designed to appeal to the simpleminded; those who are slow to think but quick to act; those who are angry and are looking for easy targets onto which to pin their anger (the Other, the foreigner).

This is not a subject about which serious people would even debate.

Deborah

 

[movie zombie]

f&i, what''s negative about being concerned about the huge trade deficit, the reliance on loans for our economy, etc? those used to be republican values. and they certainly are personal values: if each of us lived this way, we''d all be bankrupt.

peace, movie zombie

 

[fire&ice]

The negative was the thought that all foreign aide ends up doing bad. That anything we do isn''t right.

I think the piece *does* provoke thought. Makes me realize we are damned if we do. Damned if we don''t. That''s the simple part.

And, I have to say - I earned much respect for the Aussies for being there when we need them. They were one of the first countries to help w/ money for Katrina.

Let me pose this question. Would you be friendly, kindly, generous with your time and money with a friend who sticks by you when you are in need? Or invest the same amount of energy for a friend who is constantly criticizing you, never recipercating, has quite their own agenda in the forefront & has a very short term memory as to when you indeed did help?

Deb, no one is refering to denying aide to Africa because they didn''t help with the Iraq was effort. They didn''t have an alternate back stabbing agenda.

 

[AGBF]

Date: 12/7/2005 5:43:47 PM
Author: fire&ice
Deb, no one is refering to denying aide to Africa because they didn''t help with the Iraq was effort. They didn''t have an alternate back stabbing agenda.

Perhaps you do not think the US should withdraw money from the starving masses in Africa or in the countries bordering the Indian Ocean after a tidal wave, but the person who wrote the letter sure seemed to want to do that!

How else do you interpret this:

"The American people are no longer going to pour money into third world
hell-holes....

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Need help with a famine? Wrestling with an epidemic? Call France."


Deb

 

[movie zombie]

f&i, its not simple. it was in our best interest for the capitalists here that we helped to rebuild japan and europe. we didn''t do it out of the goodness of our heart: there was economic gain in it for us.

australia will always be there for us no matter what we do: during WWII Prime Minister Churchill wrote off Australia as the Japanese neared saying ''we can always get it back later''. we, America, however, refused to let it go that way. the aussies are eternally grateful and will follow us to hell and back.

btw, traveling in France to the WWI and WWII burial grounds 3 years ago i was moved to tears by notes written in the visitor ''guest'' books by the French people thanking us for coming in and helping them. don''t confuse the French people with the French government and don''t confuse the American people with the American government.

and just because people are thankful for assistance doesn''t mean they have to condone our pre-emptive strikes or torture of captives.

peace, movie zombie