Engagement Ring - Diamond - New Diamond with IdealScope pics

[hondaf17]

Hello again, everyone.

I originally posted this thread, here:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/need-help-advice-first-diamond-purchase-engagement-ring.188577/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/need-help-advice-first-diamond-purchase-engagement-ring.188577/[/URL]

In that thread there were 3 stones that were labeled "sub par" and people thought I could do better. I have been in contact with my jeweler and now have a fourth stone that is in consideration. This one scores a .9 on the HCA. It is a 1.545 carat AGS 000, H color and VS2 clarity.

I've included the specs and images and appreciate any feedback/criticism this community can provide. It is obviously a big purchase so I want to make sure I'm getting it right.

TYIA,

 

[hondaf17]

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Here are the final two images...

 

[JulieN]

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It is a Crafted by Infinity, which is going to be drop dead flippin' gorgeous.

 

[ecf8503]

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It's perfection!

 

[MissGotRocks]

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Will be stunning!

 

[diamondloveaffair]

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I hope you are not paying the premium of a Hearts And Arrows diamond for this stone. Hearts patterning is sub par for a H&A diamond.

For a normal round brilliant, the ASET looks great.

 

[04diamond<3]

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YUM!!!

 

[MissGotRocks]

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I hope you are not paying the premium of a Hearts And Arrows diamond for this stone. Hearts patterning is sub par for a H&A diamond.

For a normal round brilliant, the ASET looks great.

This is a super ideal cut stone - where is your reasoning for this?

 

[ecf8503]

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I hope you are not paying the premium of a Hearts And Arrows diamond for this stone. Hearts patterning is sub par for a H&A diamond.

Uh... what? You're kidding, right?

 

[diamondloveaffair]

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I never said the stone wasn't good. I just pointed out that there are some issues that might or might not matter to the person posting this thread. He wants advice, he's getting constructive advice here. The images speak for themselves. Use your eyes and look at the hearts patterning. If I am expected to pay a premium for these stones, it had better be premium in all aspects of cut quality.

Combing through the entire page here http://www.highperformancediamonds.com/index.php?page=diamond-search,, i have difficulties finding a single stone with great optical symmetry for a comparison.

It's so much easier to look through vendors like whiteflash, gog or brian gavin to find for you guys to compare.

Here's the example i found within 30 seconds at GOG. http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/7153/

What's the difference between the hearts image?

 

[04diamond<3]

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I never said the stone wasn't good. I just pointed out that there are some issues that might or might not matter to the person posting this thread. He wants advice, he's getting constructive advice here. The images speak for themselves. Use your eyes and look at the hearts patterning. If I am expected to pay a premium for these stones, it had better be premium in all aspects of cut quality.

Combing through the entire page here http://www.highperformancediamonds.com/index.php?page=diamond-search,,, i have difficulties finding a single stone with great optical symmetry for a comparison.

It's so much easier to look through vendors like whiteflash, gog or brian gavin to find for you guys to compare.

Here's the example i found within 30 seconds at GOG. http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/7153/

What's the difference between the hearts image?

You're still not making sense. The hearts pattern of the stone he's interested in looks perfect (not to mention HPD are cut to perfection), it's just a bit darker than others such as the GOG one you posted. The stone is beyond gorgeous and it IS an H&A stone.

 

[hondaf17]

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Any other feedback from others? This is a huge purchase (sentimental and $) for me so I want to make sure I'm getting it right.

Seems like the consensus is it is an ideal cut, with one person saying room for improvments on hearts and arrows.

Is an HCA score of .9 "too low"?

Anyone have any problems buying an H color in this type of cut?

Does the price of $16,900 look reasonable?

Thank you for the continued advice, everything helps me!

 

[JulieN]

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No, HCA is not too low.

I assume you want to buy from the jeweler you are working with because I posted two promising E and F in your last thread, they are cheaper but a little smaller.

Price is about comparable to BGD.

 

[hondaf17]

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Wow. Today I viewed this diamond at the store through the hearts and arrows viewer, along with the ASET image, and all I can say is WOW. The hearts image is PERFECT. It does not look like the image I posted (from the internet) with the small variations in symmetry, etc. It is absolutely perfectly aligned. I can see how it would be very difficult to take an accurate picture, as small variations in my eye resulted in different images, but when I had the proper alignment the hearts and arrows were absolutely perfect. Everything looked very good to my eye, and I am excited to be strongly considering this diamond.

 

[new4diamond]

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Wow. Today I viewed this diamond at the store through the hearts and arrows viewer, along with the ASET image, and all I can say is WOW. The hearts image is PERFECT. It does not look like the image I posted (from the internet) with the small variations in symmetry, etc. It is absolutely perfectly aligned. I can see how it would be very difficult to take an accurate picture, as small variations in my eye resulted in different images, but when I had the proper alignment the hearts and arrows were absolutely perfect. Everything looked very good to my eye, and I am excited to be strongly considering this diamond.

I think this diamond is fantastic !!..

I don't know if there is an exact industry 'Standard' for an Ideal cut Hearts & Arrows, but it appears as those vendors who are selling these stones (WF, GOG, Infinity, BGD, J Allen, etc) labeled as such is accepted.

There have been articles written on Hearts & Arrows that give much more information that may be worth reading.

 

[Dancing Fire]

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Wow. Today I viewed this diamond at the store through the hearts and arrows viewer, along with the ASET image, and all I can say is WOW. The hearts image is PERFECT. It does not look like the image I posted (from the internet) with the small variations in symmetry, etc. It is absolutely perfectly aligned. I can see how it would be very difficult to take an accurate picture, as small variations in my eye resulted in different images, but when I had the proper alignment the hearts and arrows were absolutely perfect. Everything looked very good to my eye, and I am excited to be strongly considering this diamond.

Yup, sometime it is hard to take a good pic.

 

[hondaf17]

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Purchased! It is already mounted and it's absolutely stunning. Asking the question on Saturday! Very exciting. Thanks to all for your help.

 

[c-k]

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Purchased! It is already mounted and it's absolutely stunning. Asking the question on Saturday! Very exciting. Thanks to all for your help.

....She will love it...the Best of Luck

 

[04diamond<3]

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YAY!!!! Come back with lots of pics for us!!!

 

[Lula]

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I never said the stone wasn't good. I just pointed out that there are some issues that might or might not matter to the person posting this thread. He wants advice, he's getting constructive advice here. The images speak for themselves. Use your eyes and look at the hearts patterning. If I am expected to pay a premium for these stones, it had better be premium in all aspects of cut quality.

Combing through the entire page here http://www.highperformancediamonds.com/index.php?page=diamond-search,,,,, i have difficulties finding a single stone with great optical symmetry for a comparison.

It's so much easier to look through vendors like whiteflash, gog or brian gavin to find for you guys to compare.

Here's the example i found within 30 seconds at GOG. http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/7153/

What's the difference between the hearts image?

What's the difference between the hearts image? Photography. And Photoshop, I suspect, in some cases -- not because the diamonds don't have perfect H&A, but because it's tough to get a perfect photo of the H&A.

I've owned four Crafted by Infinity diamonds. I received an H&A scope with my first purchase, and I viewed each of the diamonds under the scope; the H&A are perfect. In fact, CBI and GOG are the only two companies that provide Arrows images, to my knowledge, and, from my understanding, it is the Arrows image that provides more information about the precision of the cut.

honda -- congratulations. Please come back with photos.

 

[blackprophet]

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If diamondloveaffair checks back in this thread...

Would you mind photoshopping the original H&A photo to show where the imperfections are? I've been staring at it since this thread started and I can't see them. Just would like to know for future reference what I am looking for. These are the best H&A and IS I have ever seen in my short time on PS and want to learn more and more. Or you could post up another better H&A I can compare. Thanks.

 

[04diamond<3]

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If diamondloveaffair checks back in this thread...

Would you mind photoshopping the original H&A photo to show where the imperfections are? I've been staring at it since this thread started and I can't see them. Just would like to know for future reference what I am looking for. These are the best H&A and IS I have ever seen in my short time on PS and want to learn more and more. Or you could post up another better H&A I can compare. Thanks.

She wasn't talking about clarity. Not sure what she was talking about because Crafted by Infinity is one of the best diamond cutters ever.

Lula - JA also has hearts images for their True H&A collection.

 

[Lula]

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If diamondloveaffair checks back in this thread...

Would you mind photoshopping the original H&A photo to show where the imperfections are? I've been staring at it since this thread started and I can't see them. Just would like to know for future reference what I am looking for. These are the best H&A and IS I have ever seen in my short time on PS and want to learn more and more. Or you could post up another better H&A I can compare. Thanks.

She wasn't talking about clarity. Not sure what she was talking about because Crafted by Infinity is one of the best diamond cutters ever.

Lula - JA also has hearts images for their True H&A collection.

Thanks for catching that 04diamond<3! I meant to say Arrows images. I'll try to edit my post.

 

[blackprophet]

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If diamondloveaffair checks back in this thread...

Would you mind photoshopping the original H&A photo to show where the imperfections are? I've been staring at it since this thread started and I can't see them. Just would like to know for future reference what I am looking for. These are the best H&A and IS I have ever seen in my short time on PS and want to learn more and more. Or you could post up another better H&A I can compare. Thanks.

She wasn't talking about clarity. Not sure what she was talking about because Crafted by Infinity is one of the best diamond cutters ever.

Lula - JA also has hearts images for their True H&A collection.

Sorry I wasn't refering to clarity either. I wanted to see where the flaws in the Hearts image, because it looks perefct to me. She said it looked not perfect. So I wanted to know where she sees the imperfections so I can improve my eye for these things. If anyone else sees it, then feel free to do the job. Thanks.

 

[AprilBaby]

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Beautiful choice! Good luck with the proposal!

 

[hondaf17]

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If diamondloveaffair checks back in this thread...

Would you mind photoshopping the original H&A photo to show where the imperfections are? I've been staring at it since this thread started and I can't see them. Just would like to know for future reference what I am looking for. These are the best H&A and IS I have ever seen in my short time on PS and want to learn more and more. Or you could post up another better H&A I can compare. Thanks.

She wasn't talking about clarity. Not sure what she was talking about because Crafted by Infinity is one of the best diamond cutters ever.

Lula - JA also has hearts images for their True H&A collection.

Sorry I wasn't refering to clarity either. I wanted to see where the flaws in the Hearts image, because it looks perefct to me. She said it looked not perfect. So I wanted to know where she sees the imperfections so I can improve my eye for these things. If anyone else sees it, then feel free to do the job. Thanks.

Thanks everyone! I am very excited, and will definitely come back with photos!

What they were talking about is the hearts image at the top of the thread. See how the "V's" below the hearts are a little squiggly, not perfectly symmetrical? I learned that is becase of photography, as it can be difficult to take a good hearts photo. And if you are looking at stones like this, I can't stress enough to view them with your own eyes. I viewed this diamond, in person, in an ASET and hearts and arrow viewer, and the hearts image is absolutely perfect, flawless.

 

[hondaf17]

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I never said the stone wasn't good. I just pointed out that there are some issues that might or might not matter to the person posting this thread. He wants advice, he's getting constructive advice here. The images speak for themselves. Use your eyes and look at the hearts patterning. If I am expected to pay a premium for these stones, it had better be premium in all aspects of cut quality.

Combing through the entire page here http://www.highperformancediamonds.com/index.php?page=diamond-search,,,,,, i have difficulties finding a single stone with great optical symmetry for a comparison.

It's so much easier to look through vendors like whiteflash, gog or brian gavin to find for you guys to compare.

Here's the example i found within 30 seconds at GOG. http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/7153/

What's the difference between the hearts image?

I've owned four Crafted by Infinity diamonds. I received an H&A scope with my first purchase, and I viewed each of the diamonds under the scope; the H&A are perfect. In fact, CBI and GOG are the only two companies that provide Arrows images, to my knowledge, and, from my understanding, it is the Arrows image that provides more information about the precision of the cut.

honda -- congratulations. Please come back with photos.

Thanks for sharing your experience. This reiterates that I think I made a good decision.

 

[blackprophet]

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If diamondloveaffair checks back in this thread...

Would you mind photoshopping the original H&A photo to show where the imperfections are? I've been staring at it since this thread started and I can't see them. Just would like to know for future reference what I am looking for. These are the best H&A and IS I have ever seen in my short time on PS and want to learn more and more. Or you could post up another better H&A I can compare. Thanks.

She wasn't talking about clarity. Not sure what she was talking about because Crafted by Infinity is one of the best diamond cutters ever.

Lula - JA also has hearts images for their True H&A collection.

Sorry I wasn't refering to clarity either. I wanted to see where the flaws in the Hearts image, because it looks perefct to me. She said it looked not perfect. So I wanted to know where she sees the imperfections so I can improve my eye for these things. If anyone else sees it, then feel free to do the job. Thanks.

Thanks everyone! I am very excited, and will definitely come back with photos!

What they were talking about is the hearts image at the top of the thread. See how the "V's" below the hearts are a little squiggly, not perfectly symmetrical? I learned that is becase of photography, as it can be difficult to take a good hearts photo. And if you are looking at stones like this, I can't stress enough to view them with your own eyes. I viewed this diamond, in person, in an ASET and hearts and arrow viewer, and the hearts image is absolutely perfect, flawless.

So when you looked at it in person those Vs were perfectly symetrical? I've never seen them ever be symetircal on any hearts picture I've seen on here. Like I said, I'm trying to learn.

Seems small reason to discount the H&A tag. Always thought the H&A reffered to just that, the hearts and the arrows.

 

[hondaf17]

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If diamondloveaffair checks back in this thread...

Would you mind photoshopping the original H&A photo to show where the imperfections are? I've been staring at it since this thread started and I can't see them. Just would like to know for future reference what I am looking for. These are the best H&A and IS I have ever seen in my short time on PS and want to learn more and more. Or you could post up another better H&A I can compare. Thanks.

She wasn't talking about clarity. Not sure what she was talking about because Crafted by Infinity is one of the best diamond cutters ever.

Lula - JA also has hearts images for their True H&A collection.

Sorry I wasn't refering to clarity either. I wanted to see where the flaws in the Hearts image, because it looks perefct to me. She said it looked not perfect. So I wanted to know where she sees the imperfections so I can improve my eye for these things. If anyone else sees it, then feel free to do the job. Thanks.

Thanks everyone! I am very excited, and will definitely come back with photos!

What they were talking about is the hearts image at the top of the thread. See how the "V's" below the hearts are a little squiggly, not perfectly symmetrical? I learned that is becase of photography, as it can be difficult to take a good hearts photo. And if you are looking at stones like this, I can't stress enough to view them with your own eyes. I viewed this diamond, in person, in an ASET and hearts and arrow viewer, and the hearts image is absolutely perfect, flawless.

So when you looked at it in person those Vs were perfectly symetrical? I've never seen them ever be symetircal on any hearts picture I've seen on here. Like I said, I'm trying to learn.

Seems small reason to discount the H&A tag. Always thought the H&A reffered to just that, the hearts and the arrows.

Yes, when I looked at it in person the Vs were perfectly symmetrical. Perhaps calling a jeweler, asking them to see their best H&A stone, and viewing it through a scope with your own eyes will help you.

 

[hondaf17]

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[quote="04diamondquote]

I made a new thread in the "show me the bling" forum with some photos! Here it is:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/were-engaged-photos-of-1-54-crafted-by-infinity-rb.190066/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/were-engaged-photos-of-1-54-crafted-by-infinity-rb.190066/[/URL]

Thanks to everyone for your help. It's greatly appreciated. We're very happily engaged and she LOVES the diamond. Her friends are always complimenting her. Last night one of her friends said, "quit waving your hand, your diamond is blinding me!" Haha.

The pictures aren't the best but post in that thread if you want to see any other photos or have suggestions on photo taking abilities.

Cheers!