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dmd4ever

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Hi,

I'm just beginning to look at diamonds and engagement ring settings. I haven't really decided when the proposal will happen, but trying to figure out this stuff in advance and get everything lined up over the next several months. This website is absolutely amazing, and I've been spending a lot of time cruising around and learning a lot. Hopefully some of you experts can help me with some initial guidance on a few questions? Thanks in advance for your help!

My gf wants to be surprised by the final ring. I know the wisdom of this is a big debate, and I kinda like the "buy a solitaire setting and let her choose the setting idea," but in my case, the issue is closed. She generally wears modern jewelry and likes fun, unique, statement-type pieces (some expensive, some not), but claims that she want a more antique-style ER setting. She has also very clearly stated that she does not like "circles and squares" by which she means RB and Princess cuts. She has said that she likes Pears although she also mentioned that she liked the cushion cut. Personally, I think the latter would look much better. I don't want to probe her too much on the details because the surprise (of the proposal and the ring) seem important.

I'm thinking about finding my own stone (she doesn't care about "brands") and either buying a Tacori, Beverly K, etc. setting or maybe having something similar vintage-style custom made in platinum. I like the idea of the halo settings, but think they could detract from the main stone. I've also heard her say she doesn't like the 3-stone type setting. I'd be willing to spend up to about $5k or so on the setting, but am flexible based on the center stone. Speaking of which, I'm thinking cushion cut (I like the large faceted style and think she would too--more "flash" or whatever the proper term is) somewhere between 2-3 carats, G-H color, VS1 or 2 clarity. She definitely will care much more about size and the look of the stone in the ring (to the naked eye) rather than any technical specs. Budget not clearly defined, but I'm thinking somewhere up to $30k (but preferably $20-25k). Really depends what I find that I like.

Sorry this has turned into such a long post... My questions are:
1. Am I wrong to ignore the Pear? It just doesn't seem like an ER stone to me...
2. Should I reconsider the idea of surrounding a 2-3 carat cushion with something halo-like?
3. For cushions, it seems that WF, BGD, and GOG are recommended? Anywhere else?
4. Should I go higher in color (D-F) or can I go to an SI1 in clarity for this size cushion?
5. She has slender fingers (not sure of the size). Might more than 2 carats be too big?
6. Is my budget realistic?
7. Any other recommendations for the setting?

Thanks!!!
 
Date: 2/24/2010 4:02:04 PM
Author:dmd4ever

Sorry this has turned into such a long post... My questions are:

1. Am I wrong to ignore the Pear? It just doesn't seem like an ER stone to me...

2. Should I reconsider the idea of surrounding a 2-3 carat cushion with something halo-like?

3. For cushions, it seems that WF, BGD, and GOG are recommended? Anywhere else?

4. Should I go higher in color (D-F) or can I go to an SI1 in clarity for this size cushion?

5. She has slender fingers (not sure of the size). Might more than 2 carats be too big?

6. Is my budget realistic?

7. Any other recommendations for the setting?


Thanks!!!
1. A pear makes a fine E-stone. If you guys both like the cushion, though, I don't see why you wouldn't go with it as a matter of course.
2. See Harry Winston. I'm not really into large halo'ed rounds, but fancy shapes are a different matter.
3. GOG GOG GOG. Engagement Rings Direct is also popular, but once GOG rolled out the August Vintage cushions, they kinda became the first place someone would look for a cushion.
4. Yes.
5.
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There is something ridiculously decadent about a large, halo'ed e-ring that kinda flops to one side on a thin finger.
6. Yes, sounds good
7. Leon Mege.
 
Date: 2/24/2010 4:02:04 PM
Author:dmd4ever
Hi,

I'm just beginning to look at diamonds and engagement ring settings. I haven't really decided when the proposal will happen, but trying to figure out this stuff in advance and get everything lined up over the next several months. This website is absolutely amazing, and I've been spending a lot of time cruising around and learning a lot. Hopefully some of you experts can help me with some initial guidance on a few questions? Thanks in advance for your help!

My gf wants to be surprised by the final ring. I know the wisdom of this is a big debate, and I kinda like the 'buy a solitaire setting and let her choose the setting idea,' but in my case, the issue is closed. She generally wears modern jewelry and likes fun, unique, statement-type pieces (some expensive, some not), but claims that she want a more antique-style ER setting. She has also very clearly stated that she does not like 'circles and squares' by which she means RB and Princess cuts. She has said that she likes Pears although she also mentioned that she liked the cushion cut. Personally, I think the latter would look much better. I don't want to probe her too much on the details because the surprise (of the proposal and the ring) seem important.

I'm thinking about finding my own stone (she doesn't care about 'brands') and either buying a Tacori, Beverly K, etc. setting or maybe having something similar vintage-style custom made in platinum. I like the idea of the halo settings, but think they could detract from the main stone. I've also heard her say she doesn't like the 3-stone type setting. I'd be willing to spend up to about $5k or so on the setting, but am flexible based on the center stone. Speaking of which, I'm thinking cushion cut (I like the large faceted style and think she would too--more 'flash' or whatever the proper term is) somewhere between 2-3 carats, G-H color, VS1 or 2 clarity. She definitely will care much more about size and the look of the stone in the ring (to the naked eye) rather than any technical specs. Budget not clearly defined, but I'm thinking somewhere up to $30k (but preferably $20-25k). Really depends what I find that I like.

Sorry this has turned into such a long post... My questions are:
1. Am I wrong to ignore the Pear? It just doesn't seem like an ER stone to me...Personally I love pears and they can be quite suitable for an engagement ring, especially as they are a traditional shape that can lend themselves well to vintage settings. I would keep them on the list while you look around, once you have spent some time researching I am sure it will become clear whether a pear or cushion is the best way to go.

2. Should I reconsider the idea of surrounding a 2-3 carat cushion with something halo-like? It depends on personal taste, I am not a huge fan of halos as I prefer side stones or to let the stone of that size be the star of the show but you certainly could consider a halo setting should you find a setting that features a halo which appeals to you.

3. For cushions, it seems that WF, BGD, and GOG are recommended? Anywhere else? Also Mark at www.engagementringsdirect.com has an excellent rep for cushions. Take a look at GOG's August Vintage Cushions, these are hugely popular and offer chunky virtual facets and flashes galore. The vendors also offer more of a modern type cushion, I will link some videos below which will help you learn about cushions so you can see the various types.

Consumer's Guide to Purchasing a Cushion Cut Diamond

Bonus Footage for above video

Chunky Cushion Comparison

8 Main Cushions Versus 4 Mains


4. Should I go higher in color (D-F) or can I go to an SI1 in clarity for this size cushion? You can definitely consider SI clarities if verified eyeclean by your vendor. Colour again it depends, I personally love a hint of warmth in a cushion as to me this gives a lovely ' antique whiteness' to the stone. Pears I prefer to be more colourless, also watch the tips in pears as any warmth can be concentrated in this area.

5. She has slender fingers (not sure of the size). Might more than 2 carats be too big? I don't think so.

6. Is my budget realistic? Looking around at available stones I believe your budget is realistic.

7. Any other recommendations for the setting?

Thanks!!!
 
If she wants size then a pear may be a better bet than a cushion, which tends to face up smaller per carat weight. On the other hand, the optics of a cushion are better.

Ditto everything the others said.
 
5.
33.gif
There is something ridiculously decadent about a large, halo''ed e-ring that kinda flops to one side on a thin finger.
Oh I agree, or a headlight honker round flopping around on a dainty paw but I digress.....
30.gif
 
Date: 2/24/2010 4:30:16 PM
Author: Lorelei

5.
33.gif
There is something ridiculously decadent about a large, halo''ed e-ring that kinda flops to one side on a thin finger.
Oh I agree, or a headlight honker round flopping around on a dainty paw but I digress.....
30.gif
It is my favourite look.
 
Pear strikes me as right for a more modern e-ring - well I haven''t seen so many pears in antique-style settings! Plus maybe I just like cushions better, but if your gf likes cushions and put you in charge, seems OK to use your preferences a bit in this choice. Also have you considered asschers?

I''d start shopping settings before nailing down the specs of the stone... If you are going to halo a 2-3 ct cushion, I think a delicate halo is key to make it look like a substantial piece without being cocktail ring style. That is most important, more than the stone size/finger size combo. Speaking of, you *should* ask her to go have her finger sized several times. Since you have discussed the concept of getting engaged and rings and stuff, much better for the ring to be ordered close to the correct size for the proposal rather than sized after. Me personally I like the G/H VS2 combo in a substantial cushion, but would also consider eye-clean SI1s. Others might have different pref''s regarding the color-clarity-size tradeoffs.

Also ditto the others, ERD has sourced some really wonderful cushions for psers over the years.

Settings, well, Leon Mege. Also maybe browse over at single stone to get some vintage inspiration or setting-lust.
 
Thanks for the quick responses! Interesting point about size re pear vs. cushion (will have to look at more in person), although I also agree that I haven''t seen any vintage looking settings with a pear stone. Also the video clips look very helpful! One more thing, are diamond prices generally rising? I''ve read a few articles to that effect and I''m wondering if it would make sense to lock down a center stone sooner rather than later if I find one I like? Or are prices not moving that fast? And I will get her ring size soon... ;) Thanks again!
 
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