experts on value

[pwings]

$17000

2.0 GSi2
AGS 0 w/ light performance
eye clean
crystal located off center can be seen easily at 10x
hearts and arrows present
56 table
60.7depth
*30.4crown
*40.7pav
*if i remember correctly.
Gemex:
White light: very high
Color light: very high
scintillation: high


What do you guys think of value here? Also an FSi2 is also availble said to be eye clean but i have not seen it yet. It has an old ags cert, triple ideal, no light performance. priced at 17000.

 

[valeria101]

Date: 3/21/2006 12:20:33 AM
Author:pwings

$17000

2.0 GSi2
AGS 0 w/ light performance
eye clean
crystal located off center can be seen easily at 10x
hearts and arrows present
56 table
60.7depth
*30.4crown This 30.4 is not all bad, but not AGS0 (as much as I remember).

*40.7pav
*if i remember correctly.
Gemex:
White light: very high
Color light: very high
scintillation: high



What do you guys think of value here?

Would compare with other AGS graded, but not H&A. You may not insist on this pattern, but it does come at a premium regardless.

Between G/SI2 and F/Si2, I would choose the one with the least visible inclusions. The color difference wouldn''t be very significant for me. Just a personal opinion, of course.


My 2c

 

[pwings]

It might be 34 then. I didnt right the numbers down. Considering that both stones are eye clean, would u let the inclusions on the cert determine your pick? If the G has only 1 crystal off center but the F has many many needles, feathers, and twinnings wisps scattered all through out, both at 17000. Also, the G has H&A clearly defined, but when looking at an ideal scope I can see the crystal. The F on the other hand has a ''04 ags cert. What do you think Val?

 

[valeria101]

Date: 3/21/2006 7:52:42 PM
Author: pwings


Considering that both stones are eye clean, would u let the inclusions on the cert determine your pick?

Not really... as long as they don't show, I don't care much about them at all. There may be some that sound like trouble: large feathers reaching the surface near the girdle, knots on the crown - whatever else may have a reputation of inviting later damage. However, to be trouble these inclusions also need to be sizable - and if so, they'd probably show anyway.




If the G has only 1 crystal off center but the F has many many needles, feathers, and twining wisps scattered all through out, both at 17000.

I'd bet the one crystal is easier to see. But whatever choice would be about how visible the inclusions are.




Also, the G has H&A clearly defined, but when looking at an ideal scope I can see the crystal.

Well, it may be that the crystal reflects light in a lucky way. Other than this - the detail doesn't tell me anything. Not sure if there is any right or wrong about this.




The F on the other hand has a '04 ags cert.

No idea what that could mean: perhaps the shop that had it in stock didn't do well with ideals, or who knows? On the other hand, the standard for cut appears to be a moving target: can't believe AGS will never change their mind yet again about what constitute ideal cut diamonds. In a few years...



What do you think Val?

That I'd want to see them, as usual. Surely I can't, but how about you? On a hunch, the 'scattered inclusions' of the F sound less easy to locate. If the only type on inclusions would be twinning, I would wonder if this diamond may look slightly hazy or something, but this is not the case. From the description, it sounds slightly 'better'. Seeing is believing through.

My 2c

 

[pwings]

correction on the g si2

8.13-8.18x4.98
table 56
crown 34.2
pavillion 40.7
depth 61.1
flour. negligible

17k good value here?