Eye Clean Diamond based on Picture

[jbase16]

This is graded SI1 according to GIA with some twinning wisps. Based on this picture, can anyone determine if this is eye-clean? Thank you!

 

[04diamond<3]

Looks great to me! It's always harder for me to tell if there's something hiding on a cushion stone because it's cut differently and better at hiding things. I love it and that is exactly my type of cushion!

 

[John P]

This is graded SI1 according to GIA with some twinning wisps. Based on this picture, can anyone determine if this is eye-clean? Thank you!

It's impossible to tell from a photo.

 

[diamonds-are-friends]

hard to say but looks promising. post the cert here?

 

[LaraOnline]

This is graded SI1 according to GIA with some twinning wisps. Based on this picture, can anyone determine if this is eye-clean? Thank you!

It's impossible to tell from a photo.

...my understanding is that twinning wisps can be considered a 'good' inclusion to have, as opposed to other inclusion types ... iykwim

 

[John P]

This is graded SI1 according to GIA with some twinning wisps. Based on this picture, can anyone determine if this is eye-clean? Thank you!

It's impossible to tell from a photo.

...my understanding is that twinning wisps can be considered a 'good' inclusion to have, as opposed to other inclusion types ... iykwim

If you're talking about eye-visibility, yes - twinning wisps can be pretty 'quiet', depending on size, position and relief.

The problem with a photo is that it renders a 3D object into 2D, and whether any given inclusion is visible depends on many variables such as lighting. Most notably, focal depth plays a key part in whether something appears in a macro-photo or not. If you adjust focus to the table, inclusions at the girdle plane may not appear. If you adjust focus to the girdle, inclusions near the table or in the pavilion may not appear. In the lab diamond graders use microscopes to descend-and-ascend through the body of the diamond, to assess and plot inclusions.

There's still no substitute for human vision. Even then, vision differs. Younger eyes are generally better at spotting inclusions than older eyes due to presbyopia, which affects everyone at some point. It's one nice thing about aging: More and more diamonds look "clean" as you approach your golden years.

 

[jbase16]

This is graded SI1 according to GIA with some twinning wisps. Based on this picture, can anyone determine if this is eye-clean? Thank you!

It's impossible to tell from a photo.

...my understanding is that twinning wisps can be considered a 'good' inclusion to have, as opposed to other inclusion types ... iykwim

If you're talking about eye-visibility, yes - twinning wisps can be pretty 'quiet', depending on size, position and relief.

The problem with a photo is that it renders a 3D object into 2D, and whether any given inclusion is visible depends on many variables such as lighting. Most notably, focal depth plays a key part in whether something appears in a macro-photo or not. If you adjust focus to the table, inclusions at the girdle plane may not appear. If you adjust focus to the girdle, inclusions near the table or in the pavilion may not appear. In the lab diamond graders use microscopes to descend-and-ascend through the body of the diamond, to assess and plot inclusions.

There's still no substitute for human vision. Even then, vision differs. Younger eyes are generally better at spotting inclusions than older eyes due to presbyopia, which affects everyone at some point. It's one nice thing about aging: More and more diamonds look "clean" as you approach your golden years.

thanks for your thoughts and insight. I have the vendor checking for eye-cleanliness but that's the only thing I can rely on before making a decision to purchase the stone. they do have a 30 day full refund policy. do you know how often gia SI1 grades are eye-clean vs. non eye-clean, in general?

 

[John P]

This is graded SI1 according to GIA with some twinning wisps. Based on this picture, can anyone determine if this is eye-clean? Thank you!

It's impossible to tell from a photo.

...my understanding is that twinning wisps can be considered a 'good' inclusion to have, as opposed to other inclusion types ... iykwim

If you're talking about eye-visibility, yes - twinning wisps can be pretty 'quiet', depending on size, position and relief.

The problem with a photo is that it renders a 3D object into 2D, and whether any given inclusion is visible depends on many variables such as lighting. Most notably, focal depth plays a key part in whether something appears in a macro-photo or not. If you adjust focus to the table, inclusions at the girdle plane may not appear. If you adjust focus to the girdle, inclusions near the table or in the pavilion may not appear. In the lab diamond graders use microscopes to descend-and-ascend through the body of the diamond, to assess and plot inclusions.

There's still no substitute for human vision. Even then, vision differs. Younger eyes are generally better at spotting inclusions than older eyes due to presbyopia, which affects everyone at some point. It's one nice thing about aging: More and more diamonds look "clean" as you approach your golden years.

thanks for your thoughts and insight. I have the vendor checking for eye-cleanliness but that's the only thing I can rely on before making a decision to purchase the stone. they do have a 30 day full refund policy. do you know how often gia SI1 grades are eye-clean vs. non eye-clean, in general?

You're welcome. While I wouldn't bet the farm on what the overall percentages are when it comes to any one diamond, I find the majority of GIA SI1s in common sizes to be eye-clean to average vision.

The seller is in the best position to describe the diamond to you. The return period is a nice safety net in case you don't agree with the description. In the interest of finding common ground you can ask the seller a few questions: From how far away is the eye-clean judgment being made? Under what lighting? (diffused/fluorescent is best) With what background? (is it in a light/dark tray or in-tweezers with no flat background) Is the judgment from top only, or top and sides? (this is nitpicky for SI to me, but some people like to know). And how old is the person making the judgment?

Some sellers might not understand the nature of the last question but it is relevant per my prior comments. I suspect, if you're dealing with a frequent internet seller, they will understand - and probably have a 20-20 20-something staffer tapped to make their pronouncements.

 

[jbase16]

OK, vendor (b2C) said that it is 100% eye clean. Here are the details:

1.62, H, SI1, 61.7 Depth, 58 Table, 7.44 X 6.54

GIA Report:




They put it on hold for me...any thoughts if I should pull the trigger? Thank you!

 

[WinkHPD]

And how old is the person making the judgment?

Some sellers might not understand the nature of the last question but it is relevant per my prior comments. I suspect, if you're dealing with a frequent internet seller, they will understand - and probably have a 20-20 20-something staffer tapped to make their pronouncements.

LOL! As a certified Geezer who is near sighted I can tell you that I often can see inclusions up close that others can not, but I don't think I will still be getting the 95% score on my Munsell color grading test (discerning minute differences in various shades of colors) that I did as a younger man.

John is entirely correct though, the young see things that the old do not. And different vendors have different opinions. I personally like the twinning type inclusions, but others such at Todd Gray at NiceIce consider them an automatic disqualification.

Get the stone in and let YOUR eyes do the testing.

Wink

 

[04diamond<3]

OK, vendor (b2C) said that it is 100% eye clean. Here are the details:

1.62, H, SI1, 61.7 Depth, 58 Table, 7.44 X 6.54

GIA Report:




They put it on hold for me...any thoughts if I should pull the trigger? Thank you!

Still looks good to me!

 

[jbase16]

OK, vendor (b2C) said that it is 100% eye clean. Here are the details:

1.62, H, SI1, 61.7 Depth, 58 Table, 7.44 X 6.54

GIA Report:




They put it on hold for me...any thoughts if I should pull the trigger? Thank you!

Still looks good to me!

thanks! the other one i was looking at is as follows and since it is a VS1, I can be assured that it is eye-clean:

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-2560392-1.51-carat-Cushion-diamond-H-color-VS1-Clarity.aspx?sku=2560392&utm_source=pricescope.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pricescope.com

 

[jbase16]

Here's another one that I can get for about the same price as the other two...based on the specs of these, which one would you all choose? Thanks!

http://www.bluenile.com/cushion-cut-diamond-1-carat-very-good-cut-h-color-vs2-clarity_LD03111434?click_id=470036248

 

[diamondseeker2006]

You know we can't even comment without pictures!!!