justginger|1341260805|3227424 said:You did not get 'bashed,' don't be dramatic. You were told, by those more educated in the diamond industry than yourself, that buying EGL-graded stones is unwise. And it is. I understand that you were not fussed on color or clarity and SIZE/what your eyes interpreted was the most important criteria...but your eyes do not set pricing. The color and clarity grades do. Your "K/SI1" (which appears very tinted to me in your photos, even more so than my GIA-standard O/P) is in all likelihood a M/N (I'm being generous here), perhaps an SI1. Perhaps an I1. What did you PAY FOR? That stone would have been priced as a K/SI1 with a discount based on its inferior certification. So instead of KNOWING the true color and clarity grades from the start, and the stone being priced accordingly, the amount you paid was probably for a L/SI1. By photos alone, and the history of EGL grading standards, I don't think that's what you got. Abazias suggesting it looks like an F/G seriously makes me think less of them as a vendor. No EGL K graded stone in HISTORY will have looked like a GIA F/G.![]()
Your advice here is uneducated and muddies the water for people looking for factual information.
Read this thread. It's very applicable: https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/winner-winner-yup-got-a-chicken-dinner.176840/
Hkmitsui|1341526749|3229144 said:webdiva,
So that SI1, I color really is the clear choice? The only issue i have is the faint flurescence, which gypsy tells me is a non-issue. Im just hesitant...I was planning on going to Derco jewelers in San Francisco in 2 days for another go around...But i keep hearing lurkers all over the forum!
vince187|1341267997|3227509 said:Vince, please allow me to give you an analogy:
Someone who's never been in a wreck, and loves riding a motorcycle without a helmet ( this describes me) advising folks that it's perfectly safe, based on their experience.
Thankfully, all the miles I've logged "wind in hair" have been accident free- however I'd NEVER advise folks to ride without a helmet.
Point is- even if someone participates in high risk behavior, and does not get burned, it's still smart to advise against such behavior.
I'm sure your diamond is lovely- please don't take this personally- the responsible thing for professionals to advise is to make sure consumers are aware of the implications of non GIA reports.
As biker myself, this analogy works very well. Rarely do I ride anywhere without hearing lots of advice from people who mean well, and are extremely passionate about sharing their opinion, but have no basis for that opinion beyond repeating what they've heard from other people who again are not experts. The opinion circles around so much and the danger is exaggerated each time that you cannot discuss anything related to what would be a reasonable if not even more practical choice.
Unlike with motorcycle accidents, you can 'undo' a diamond purchase or see if you are going to crash ahead of time. See what Abazias says about "Is it possible to view the diamond prior to purchase?" in their FAQ. This certainly would be lower risk, especially if you had a much larger budget, but even with what I did I can return the stone.
There is a low risk and completely objective way to assess diamond color - its called a 'colorimeter' Yet GIA is making a fortunate off grading which ultimately gets passed down to the consumer. If a typical consumer buys a 1.2 carat SI1 'J' color according to GIA diamond, do you think they are really being ripped off not paying hundreds for gemologists subjectively grading the color of their stone? That isn't to knock the value GIA has done for buyers and sellers of large, high color high clarity stones. But for lower budgets, or diamonds with obvious color and inclusions, I don't see what value it adds.
Hkmitsui|1341527096|3229153 said:out of curiousity, what are you looking at when you see the idealscope images?
Hkmitsui|1341544260|3229302 said:So im leaning towards the SI1, I....anyone else has any other opinions, it would help a great deal