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For Sale GOG AVC - 1.58ct G I1 in Solitaire Ring

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Without meaning to seem rude you will probably have to list it at close to what you paid for it or less it move it, if this is unacceptable to you perhaps you should reset it into something else.
 
arkieb1|1471656357|4067888 said:
Without meaning to seem rude you will probably have to list it at close to what you paid for it or less it move it, if this is unacceptable to you perhaps you should reset it into something else.
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This is the seller who listed a pink diamond he bought from JA for <7000 for 14500 here on PS.

So... No surprises here.
 
Still available. Would make a fantastic RHR, huge white icy fireball AVC.

$10,000 + shipping for loose stone. Bank Wire or PayPal & fees.
 
GOG does a lifetime buyback policy for 25% less than purchase price. I know it's quite a loss but it might be better since you're having trouble finding a buyer.
 
Rhea|1475273551|4082496 said:
GOG does a lifetime buyback policy for 25% less than purchase price. I know it's quite a loss but it might be better since you're having trouble finding a buyer.
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He wants to make a profit not to lose money by selling back to GOG... :bigsmile: He'll have to wait "till the cows come home"... :wink2:
 
Dancing Fire|1475355691|4082741 said:
Rhea|1475273551|4082496 said:
GOG does a lifetime buyback policy for 25% less than purchase price. I know it's quite a loss but it might be better since you're having trouble finding a buyer.
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He wants to make a profit not to lose money by selling back to GOG... :bigsmile: He'll have to wait "till the cows come home"... :wink2:
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Oh, I'm a bit naive. I assumed that after 2 yrs of attempting to sell that the OP just wanted to get rid of it at a reasonable price, and GOG's buyback seems reasonable considering diamond prices have fallen in the last little bit. I'll move along now.
 
BUMP: $10,000 for loose AVC diamond. 1.58 carats. Icy white G color. Eye-Clean, better than many SI2 stones.

Don't settle for less than an icy white diamond. Don't pay thousands more for higher clarity that has no bearing on the beauty of the diamond.

3-Day Return for any reason.
 
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Just wanted to chime in here, I just sold my 1.64 N SI1 AVR back to GOG which I bought 2-3 years ago for their buyback. I had it listed at 6800.00 and I had paid 8k for it. GOG buyback was 6k-turns out diamond prices have fallen SO MUCH that when they got the stone back they listed it for the 6800$ I had been asking, which is quite a difference from what I paid. Also, I paid 8k but the list price was 10,500$ on the stone bc it was back when rough was expensive + he had a very high end cutter still cutting them. He has since found someone a bit more affordable to cut them.

Maybe you should ask GOG what they would list the diamond for now and adjust your price accordingly if needed. Unlikely someone will pay 10k for that stone when they can get this stone for 8500.00
https://loupetroop.com/listings/loose-stones-diamond/1-dot-553-canera-antique-cushion

Or this OEC
https://loupetroop.com/listings/loose-stones-diamond/flowery-1-dot-305-vs-oec-great-brand-new-video

Or if they don't mind a bit of color for size this
https://loupetroop.com/listings/loose-stones-diamond/2-dot-41-o-p-vs2-transitional-cut-diamond
 
JoeNewbie11|1477672602|4091548 said:
BUMP: $10,000 for loose AVC diamond. 1.58 carats. Icy white G color. Eye-Clean, better than many SI2 stones.

Don't settle for less than an icy white diamond. Don't pay thousands more for higher clarity that has no bearing on the beauty of the diamond.

3-Day Return for any reason.
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bro nobody is going to buy this for more than $5k. Either sell back to GOG or go peddle it somewhere other than Pricescope where you might be able to find a sucker who doesn't know how much things should cost.
 
Thank God someone finally just spelled it out!!!! Good work, distracts!
 
I could send a certified bank check with $200 extra dollars to buy it for my cousin's daughter's BFF because my PayPal account was hacked by Wikileaks so I don't have a paypal account now. :naughty: :saint:
 
azstonie|1477953781|4092469 said:
Thank God someone finally just spelled it out!!!! Good work, distracts!
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The gall of saying "Don't pay thousands more for higher clarity that has no bearing on the beauty of the diamond" is what finally did it. I can easily find well-cut comps that show I could get a higher clarity diamond of the same size and color FOR THE SAME PRICE OR LESS.
 
distracts|1477975347|4092560 said:
azstonie|1477953781|4092469 said:
Thank God someone finally just spelled it out!!!! Good work, distracts!
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The gall of saying "Don't pay thousands more for higher clarity that has no bearing on the beauty of the diamond" is what finally did it. I can easily find well-cut comps that show I could get a higher clarity diamond of the same size and color FOR THE SAME PRICE OR LESS.
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:lol:
 
distracts|1477975347|4092560 said:
azstonie|1477953781|4092469 said:
Thank God someone finally just spelled it out!!!! Good work, distracts!
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The gall of saying "Don't pay thousands more for higher clarity that has no bearing on the beauty of the diamond" is what finally did it. I can easily find well-cut comps that show I could get a higher clarity diamond of the same size and color FOR THE SAME PRICE OR LESS.
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WORD!!! It's been like someone was channeling PT Barnum here! Or Kay Jewelers and the like :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Current market for AVC diamonds that are white and near 1.5 carat mark:

1.22 F SI1 $11,137 GOG
1.23 G SI2 $8,080 GOG
1.28 G VS1 $11,100 GOG
1.58 G I1 $10,000 My listing https://loupetroop.com/listings/rings-natural-diamond-center/1-dot-58ct-g-i1-avc-diamond
1.73 H VS1 $18,760 GOG

I am offering the consumer another choice. No one is giving away AVC diamonds. My price is certainly fair given the diamond's cut, carat, color, and inclusion, which does not affect performance.

Thanks for viewing!
 
Most people that sell preloved diamonds unless it's something special lose money on them, especially things like AVCs where they paid a premium for the custom cut in the first place. As to the price, I guess it depends if you really want to sell it or not, you have had it for sale for 2 years and no-one is purchasing it, that should tell you something ie that it's still overpriced....
 
JoeNewbie11|1478634734|4095316 said:
My price is certainly fair given the diamond's cut, carat, color, and inclusion, which does not affect performance.
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I did consider contacting you about the loose stone. However you cannot/do not offer competitive conditions and consumer protections around returns, upgrades, exchanges, insurance RE: sending it to a jeweller for setting, different settings, after care etc. Unless you can provide comparative conditions it's worth paying the same, or even a few hundred dollars more to a company who is legally bound (or at least reputationally bound) to delivery quality customer service.

All the best with your sale.
 
arkieb1|1478644470|4095435 said:
Most people that sell preloved diamonds unless it's something special lose money on them, especially things like AVCs where they paid a premium for the custom cut in the first place. As to the price, I guess it depends if you really want to sell it or not, you have had it for sale for 2 years and no-one is purchasing it, that should tell you something ie that it's still overpriced....
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My only guess is maybe he has a partner that thinks he bought too many diamonds so he has put it up for sale to say "look, it's for sale, it's just not selling, you don't want me to lose money on it, do you?"
 
manderz|1479019201|4097741 said:
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond-search/1.51-august_vintage_cushion-I-GIA-K-VS2-diamond-stock-14431-cert-2146850473

Link is to a currently listed 1.51ct k vs2 AVC. Listing price? $8732.
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Wow. Not much lower in color but considerably higher in clarity and yet so much cheaper than the OP's.

OP: I'd agree with others that its time to either take a loss or sell somewhere else, where people are not so informed.
 
K color diamonds are not comparable to G color diamonds, especially in non-modern round brilliant cuts, there is a noticeable body color to diamonds J color and below. There is a steep price difference between D-G diamonds and J and below diamonds because there is a significant visual difference between them. I owned a 1.16 K color AVC diamond and there was a noticeable tint to the diamond. D - G color diamonds are more desirable and thus are priced higher, this is a fact. Below are the current comparable diamonds that will be visually similar:

1.22 F SI1 $11,137 GOG
1.23 G SI2 $8,080 GOG
1.28 G VS1 $11,100 GOG
1.58 G I1 $10,000 My listing https://loupetroop.com/listings/rings-natural-diamond-center/1-dot-58ct-g-i1-avc-diamond
1.73 H VS1 $18,760 GOG

Good Old Gold is a great company and Jon is fantastic for developing AVC diamonds, they are arguably the best cut cushion diamonds in the world and they carry a warranted premium. If you need the services of a jeweler and the upgrade policy in the future, shop with him. If you need a 1.5+ carat AVC that is icy white and don't want to pay thousands more for VS clarity, my stone makes sense. I have no reason to sell my diamond back to GOG or to take a loss on the diamond. I am not going to respond to negative posts. I am a legitimate seller of this diamond and believe it presents a real value as there are limited sizable AVC diamonds that are high color and at my offered price point.

Thanks again for viewing.
 
JoeNewbie11|1479070020|4097901 said:
K color diamonds are not comparable to G color diamonds, especially in non-modern round brilliant cuts, there is a noticeable body color to diamonds J color and below. There is a steep price difference between D-G diamonds and J and below diamonds because there is a significant visual difference between them. I owned a 1.16 K color AVC diamond and there was a noticeable tint to the diamond. D - G color diamonds are more desirable and thus are priced higher, this is a fact. Below are the current comparable diamonds that will be visually similar:

1.22 F SI1 $11,137 GOG
1.23 G SI2 $8,080 GOG
1.28 G VS1 $11,100 GOG
1.58 G I1 $10,000 My listing https://loupetroop.com/listings/rings-natural-diamond-center/1-dot-58ct-g-i1-avc-diamond
1.73 H VS1 $18,760 GOG

Good Old Gold is a great company and Jon is fantastic for developing AVC diamonds, they are arguably the best cut cushion diamonds in the world and they carry a warranted premium. If you need the services of a jeweler and the upgrade policy in the future, shop with him. If you need a 1.5+ carat AVC that is icy white and don't want to pay thousands more for VS clarity, my stone makes sense. I have no reason to sell my diamond back to GOG or to take a loss on the diamond. I am not going to respond to negative posts. I am a legitimate seller of this diamond and believe it presents a real value as there are limited sizable AVC diamonds that are high color and at my offered price point.

Thanks again for viewing.
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You respond to the issue of color, but ignore the fact that the clarity of your stone is considerably worse and then show those comps as if they are representative? OP: you have to take it all into consideration - not just the color but the clarity as well, which makes the one manderz posted not too far off the mark. I sincerely doubt, if this thread is any indication, that you have received any significant inquiries/offers. But good luck to you!
 
JoeNewbie11|1479070020|4097901 said:
I am a legitimate seller of this diamond and believe it presents a real value as there are limited sizable AVC diamonds that are high color and at my offered price point.

Thanks again for viewing.
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It's okay to believe that whatever price you set on your diamond is a real value, but unless buyers agree with you, it won't sell. To date, the buyer's market has disagreed with you. What you do in light of that disagreement is up to you.

Here are some of the factors that may be working against you (most or all of which have been mentioned in various posts):

1. An AVC is a branded stone and carries a premium for that. Most people who sell a brand name stone don't get that premium back regardless of whether it's an AVC, a Tiffany, a Cartier or whatever. There may be a variety of reasons for that, but one is that if you're going to pay the premium, you want the experience of buying the stone from the source. That's in addition to all the upgrade, return policies and protections that are part of buying from an established retailer. Buying from a private seller doesn't offer any of those things so needs a significantly lower price to compete with all that.
2. AVC's and AVR's helped to start the demand for going back to classic cuts. That's been followed by the demand for going back to the older, classic stones themselves. There are now a lot more choices, unbranded, many of them carrying lower prices per carat than what you paid for your stone or what you're trying to sell it for.
3. As demand for classic cuts and stones has increased, a lot of buyers have realized they prefer those kind of cuts in a lower color. People who wouldn't dream of buying a modern round brilliant in anything lower than an F or G actually prefer a cushion in lower colors than that. So for those buyers, not only is a G color not worth the premium, it's not their preference even if the prices were closer.
4. Although clarity doesn't necessarily affect performance, an I1 is a long way down on the scale and is likely to scare off any informed buyer who either can't see it in person before purchase or return it if they don't like it. And Pre-Loved Jewels on PS really only has informed buyers. You say there's a 3-day return, but that doesn't offer much comfort if you only take bank wire or PayPal and you're a seller without a documented track record. Few people are going to trust a stranger for $10,000.
5. Prices in the general diamond market are either down or perceived to be down. Even if that's not true for a particular type of stone, that's the perception so no one looking at the pre-owned market is going to pay what they think is close to the past or current retail market.

Nobody likes to sell a stone at less than what they paid for it. Unless you're willing to do that though, it isn't going to sell, at least not for a long time. And bumping your post or arguing why your price is justified isn't going to change that. And if you consider this a negative post, then this is me: :wall:
 
The guy is just a profiteer and not a very good one.
 
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