Green Jade or nice Tournmaline

[mellowyellowgirl]

Nice size though flat. Probably a few hundred for the jadeite as they are opaque and uneven.

Overpriced then do you think?

 

[Burmesedaze]

Much. Though it is 18k yellow gold so that's a few hundred bux too since gold prices are up again.

 

[mellowyellowgirl]

Much. Though it is 18k yellow gold so that's a few hundred bux too since gold prices are up again.

Thank you so much!

*virtual cupcakes for you all*

How much do you think would be a fair price for this, noting they need to make a profit etc

This is scaring me off the chinatown store now! I was quoted all sorts of weird and wonderful prices today! The ring I liked best was actually reasonable-ish!

 

[mellowyellowgirl]

You know how you can see the lines running down in this?

Lines are bad right? Well not bad but lower in value?

https://www.yokdeejadeite.com/colle...ral-jadeite-jade-oval-cabochon-piece-no-25060

 

[Burmesedaze]

You know how you can see the lines running down in this?

Lines are bad right? Well not bad but lower in value?

https://www.yokdeejadeite.com/colle...ral-jadeite-jade-oval-cabochon-piece-no-25060

Size not bad and it's a fresh green but on the opaque side. Rather flat so may be better as a pendant than a ring stone. US800ish would be a fair price. But she has a b&m store in Singapore and there's 7% GST too.

 

[alupha]

I hope I am not coming into this too late. I usually keep quiet seeing there are more experienced gemmies voicing (actually this is an excuse for me to lurk about and not type). I personally am not a massive fan of green jadeite, although I do appreciate and understand the fanatic love for 'imperial' class jadeite. I am at work just now, so no pics, but will try when I get home.

Just to give you an idea, I have a custom made rose gold lavender jadeite cabochon ring. Bought in HK from a local trader I know (not in the jade market), and the ring was made and designed by artisans who work with them in Mainland China. It comes with a certificate. So far I only have 1 certificate and have known about 4 others (including the ones in the other post you have linked), and have not really come across any unpleasant episodes in that aspect. Jade certificates from Chinese institutes are all governed and if found fake the company can be gone overnight - so you have some idea of how some things work (not all things though, no...I don't trust Chinese stuff myself about 99% of the time).

Here are the details as far as I can remember. Rose gold was about 8g, I think - I will check when I get home. The cab itself is not exactly translucent, and there is grey underlying veins and tone to it - hence lowered the price quite a bit. It is, however, obviously lavender, well-saturated, and not pale at all - which is a plus point - as I am picky with shades of lavender, and much prefer the bluer than the pinker end of the spectrum. The cab size is approximately 20x15mm with a height of perhaps 10-ish-mm - again I will check when I get home, but that should give you an idea of the size. The entire ring cost me probably about £1500 (the entire cost at the end, again I will check when I get home - this was 7 years ago so forgive my memory) - with the cab cost at about £700, and the rest went towards the design, gold cost, and s+h.

Hope this gives you some idea of things. Pics and exact figures to follow.

 

[chrono]

Nice high quality jade is too expensive but oh so beautiful (rich untreated colour that is even and translucent). With my budget, I'm more in the tourmaline camp.

 

[mellowyellowgirl]

@alupha not late at all!!!! Hehe I'm still saving and drifting around on the jade/green project so I would be extremely grateful for pictures!

Thank you for listing all your prices! Much appreciated!

 

[alupha]

OK I got home and did some pictures for your reference. Pics aren't of the best quality and please bear in mind the indoor artificial lighting at night, which definitely affects the colour. Apologies in advance for a few posts with lots of pics (perhaps too many pics).

Lavender jade rose gold ring:

The exact dimensions of the cab are 21*18*9mm, so not a very high dome. As aforementioned it does have some grey tone and veins, and not exactly translucent. As you can see it needs a torch in order to show its translucency, and doesn't show any translucency under normal lighting conditions. The cab itself did cost me about £700, and the other costs accounted for another £750-£800 (material, crafting, s+h). So it did come to just about £1500. This is the only one that has a certificate. This was 7 years ago.

I have another ring, shown here with a pendant of similar colour:

It is quite easy to see the translucency from the first pic so I didn't photograph the ring separately for translucency. However, you can see the pendant is only partially translucent, and is carved to use the colour gradient. Both of them together cost me about £70-80. The ring was bought 9-10 years ago, and the pendant was a few years back.

To be continued...

 

[Bluegemz]

OK I got home and did some pictures for your reference. Pics aren't of the best quality and please bear in mind the indoor artificial lighting at night, which definitely affects the colour. Apologies in advance for a few posts with lots of pics (perhaps too many pics).

Lavender jade rose gold ring:

The exact dimensions of the cab are 21*18*9mm, so not a very high dome. As aforementioned it does have some grey tone and veins, and not exactly translucent. As you can see it needs a torch in order to show its translucency, and doesn't show any translucency under normal lighting conditions. The cab itself did cost me about £700, and the other costs accounted for another £750-£800 (material, crafting, s+h). So it did come to just about £1500. This is the only one that has a certificate. This was 7 years ago.

I have another ring, shown here with a pendant of similar colour:

It is quite easy to see the translucency from the first pic so I didn't photograph the ring separately for translucency. However, you can see the pendant is only partially translucent, and is carved to use the colour gradient. Both of them together cost me about £70-80. The ring was bought 9-10 years ago, and the pendant was a few years back.

To be continued...

I really like your jade ring. What a pretty color and design! Thanks for sharing your lovely pieces. I also really like the other ring and pendant.

 

[alupha]

...continued

Here are some pendants that I bought between 9-recent years:

This one has a bit of lavender in it and is mainly a very pale green. The entire necklace is of the same piece of material, hence the even tone and colour with the beads. This is what we usually call 'spring colouring (violet variation)' - yes in Chinese the purple colouring is not actually referred to as lavender, but violet, the flower. There is translucency, and the colour saturation is acceptable. Even though indoor lighting shows violet up more than harsh, white light, the saturation in this necklace is identifiable under white light/daylight. Think this one was about £200-ish.


This is, again, 'spring colouring (violet variation)'. However, you can clearly see the violet saturation is very faint. It has translucency, and you can see the pale violet. The colour does not show up much under normal lighting, and at a glance all you can make out is that it is definitely not white. Then when you look closer or under a different lighting you can see the violet in it. This one was about £70-ish.



This one is the whitest one I have so far. Filigree carving. Depending on lighting and background there is a bit on one of the carvings you can notice very faint green. If I remember it right, this one was about £100-150-ish.

To be continued...

 

[alupha]

...continued

Here are my bangles and bracelet which were also from 9-recent years:

OK these two bangles are both classified as 'dark jade' and have similar names - 'ink/black jade'. However, the difference is as below:

This is the bangle on the left in the picture above. As you can see from the edge, it is a dark green > black colour. The only flaw is that the pattern on the edge which shows up with translucency isn't highly fluid-like. 'Water pattern' or 'water head' (direct word-to-word translation) should show fluidity - the finer the grains and nearer to the heart of the boulder during formation, the better the fluidity. Despite this, it is still a fine specimen of dark jade. You might have noticed, it also shows off a typical oily sheen. That is just me. I like oiling my jade pieces as they are more porous than other gemstones - oiling it actually stops new particles invading the pores, regardless of whether this is true, it is a kind of age-old myth/method when keeping jade. Apart from that... I love the smell of sandalwood. That justifies it. This one was about £80 and was an absolute steal.

This one is the right one in the picture at the top. As you can clearly see, this is actually in the black/grey spectrum. The fluidity pattern is still not the best, but is slightly better than the one above, and the texture is more glassy than the above. If I remember right this one was a steal as well, at about £80-ish.

This one is an absolute treasure. The entire bracelet - the carving, the links, the closure (although closure is not secure so I use a ribbon to keep it together, and so is not included in picture) is carved out of a single piece of jade. Someone mentioned moss on white/pale green jade. This is one of those. What is more, is that the moss has a bluish hue, and unlike one with only vivid green hue, this can be classified as 'dancing blue flowers'. The pattern is on a pale/faint green to white gradient material. You can see the translucency in the 2nd picture. This was a higher-priced piece and the craftsmanship absolutely justifies the price. It cost about £330-ish, and I think this came into my collection fairly recently - probably just over a year ago.


This one is purely for eyeing purpose. This is solid charoite. It is 1" wide, about 6mm thick and 6cm diameter. Cost was about £200-ish, and that was 10+ years ago.

I have to say that most of my pieces are steals and bargains, they are also mostly bought quite a while ago. So please bear this in mind when you browse for your dream piece, that the prices I pay are strictly indicative only (I think quite a few can easily go for double-triple the price I paid even at that time). Just give me a shout if you find any prices unrealistic and I can tell you what they would probably cost on the market to-date.

I apologise for being so long-winded, just hope this would help give you some idea of prices and qualities. I recon I used quite a bit of terminology that are typical in Chinese descriptions of these pieces, so if anything is unclear please let me know and I will try my best to explain further. I also just realised apart from my 1st piece (the ring) and the last piece (the charoite), I did not post measurements/sizes of the rest of the pieces. If you would like to know any of them please let me know and I'll go measure them.

Hopefully these have been helpful.

 

[alupha]

I really like your jade ring. What a pretty color and design! Thanks for sharing your lovely pieces. I also really like the other ring and pendant.

Thank you. That ring is very special to me. Knowing people like it makes me happy . Think probably @Burmesedaze might be able to explain some of them better than I did .

 

[mellowyellowgirl]

Thank you so much @alupha!!!!!! Your post has been super helpful!