HELP! just found this 2.2 raidant, but is it good? report attached

[tracys126]

i am looking at the following 2.2 radiant online. i am finding out that radiant proportions are hard to gauge unless you see them live. but this looks pretty good to me (an amateur) for around $16k.

please, experts, let me know what you think.

it's this or a 1.2 - 1.4 at tiffanys.

i have attached specs from the GIA report


thanks!
tracy

here are the details:
measurements--- 7.81 x 7.03 x 4.84
depth--- 68.8
table---72
girdle---med - sl thick
cutlet---none
clarity---VS1
color--- H
Flor-- none
polish--VG
symmetry -- G

 

[SuzyQZ]

Run your numbers through the AGA DIY Cut Grading at Gem Appraisers. Here''s the link:

http://gemappraisers.com/oldcutgrade.asp

Select the radiant shape and enter your stats. You''ll need a crown% in order for it to compute (GIA certs don''t give you this info) so you''ll just have to "plug" that number. You can have your stone analyzed so you can get the actual crown %. I don''t remember what the name of the report is that can give you that info, but I''m sure others here will readily know and chime in.

The most important thing to know about radiants is that there is no ideal cut, no formula to follow. No matter how good the numbers are on paper, you must see it in person. Your EYES are the ultimate judge. The numbers just help you eliminate the ones that will likely be bad.

Another excellent source for you is http://www.radiantcut.com/
You''ll find everyting you need to know about what makes a well cut radiant.

Good luck to you!

 

[coda72]

I'm not crazy about the numbers on the one you found. I don't know if it's worth calling that one in to the vendor. Here's some other ones I found in your price range and carat weight range that I thought looked good:

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamond.asp?cid=131&item=480232&aff_id=ps621

http://www.whiteflash.com/diamonds/diamond_Details.aspx?itemcode=5655480

http://www.thediamond.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/online-store/scstore/p-sur-731.html?E+scstore

http://www.bluenile.com/diamonds_details.asp?pid=LD00108883

 

[tracys126]

Hi,

Thanks for the feedback! Why don''t you like these numbers? Is it that the table is bad at 72? I''ve been researching and researching and am getting confused by all the radiant variables.

Any further help would be appreciated. AND THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE LINKS!

By the way, that diamond was found at Facets, and all the posts about them on here have been really positive.

But I wouldn''t get to see the diamond before purchase

Tracy

 

[SuzyQZ]

Buying a radiant without seeing it first would make me really nervous. If they have a good return policy, then buy the ring, then if you don't like it then send it back.

Fancy shapes are one of the hardest diamonds to buy, because the numbers just give you a guide as to what is LIKELY to be good diamond and what is not. The thing about radiants is that you have to see lots of them in order to know what is good and what YOU like.

Radiants can be cut many different ways and still be classified as a radiant. Do you like the crushed ice look, or more of a facet look? If you only see one radiant, you don't have anything to compare it to. I would go to some jewelry stores or diamond brokers and look at as many radiants as you can. Then look at the diamond you want to purchase and see if it measures up to what YOU like.

Another option is to send a diamond you are thinking about purchasing it to an independent appraiser. Someone who doesn't sell diamonds. Let them take a look at it and run some reports and take pictures. You'll have to pay for this service, but you will have a much better idea of what you are really getting.

So, yes, the numbers are very confusing, because there is no Ideal cut to strive for. Is your table too big you ask? Well maybe according to the numbers, but that is not the final call. You can have a beautiful radiant with a large table.

Should the table always be smaller than the depth? Well that would be good, BUT not imperative.

Should your table and debth be in the low 60's. Well, that would be good too, BUT again, that is not the only factor that determines the beauty of the stone.

I don't think anyone can tell you by looking at the numbers, especially without a crown % whether or not your stone will be good or bad. You've got to SEE IT.

So, check out the return policy. Will they give you 100% of your money back if you don't like it? Is there a restocking fee? How long is your return time? 1 week, 2 weeks, 30 days?

These are all things to take into consideration.

I'm not an expert. A diamond appraiser IS.

Good Luck!

 

[Lorelei]

As the others have said, the numbers for Radiants are a place to start but don''t tell the whole story. Many of us when online purchasing have the diamond sent to an independant appraiser during the return policy and go from there, it is standard practice in lots of cases. Online vendors are normally very good regarding returns as they appreciate that customers can''t see the diamonds first, so that wouldn''t be a problem if you don''t love it. Is it possible that the vendor could send you a pic to your email? Many will do this and although it wouldn''t display the diamond to it''s best, it would give you some idea of how it looks. It might be worth asking them to do it, then you would get an idea of the shape and faceting at the very least.

Hope this helps.