Help me find a 1.25-1.5 carat round cut

[User7013]

My potential stone fell through so it's back to the drawing board for me.

I'm trying to learn about hearts and arrows...Do all images that show a basic hearts and arrows pattern mean that is is one? For example this one:


It seems to have it, but I'm not sure if it's a true hearts and arrow or is it more of a marketing gimmick? The arrow side of the image seems...uneven?

 

[User7013]

My potential stone fell through so it's back to the drawing board for me.

I'm trying to learn about hearts and arrows...Do all images that show a basic hearts and arrows pattern mean that is is one? For example this one:


It seems to have it, but I'm not sure if it's a true hearts and arrow or is it more of a marketing gimmick? The arrow side of the image seems...uneven?

To clarify the question, do all stones exhibit some shape or form of the "hearts and arrows" look? I understand that there's differences between a true hearts and arrow well cut stone vs another that may be of lower quality, but have not been able to determine if all stones have some variation this phenomenon.

 

[Gypsy]

Read this for an answer to your question: [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/likelihood-of-finding-a-signature-super-ideal-diamond.174235/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/likelihood-of-finding-a-signature-super-ideal-diamond.174235/[/URL]

 

[User7013]

Read this for an answer to your question: [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/likelihood-of-finding-a-signature-super-ideal-diamond.174235/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/likelihood-of-finding-a-signature-super-ideal-diamond.174235/[/URL]

I echo the thoughts that the posters put in that thread! Incredibly informative post.


I bought this stone on a whim because of the hearts and arrows pattern depicted. I have a 25 day return policy, can I get some thoughts on of I should keep or return it? I hope you guys aren't getting sick of me .

http://www.since1910.com/diamond/1-23ct/h-vs2/round/brilliant/cut/diamond/-r-29279-66797069

 

[solgen]

Since the site claims actual diamond photo I assume the H&A views are also of the actual diamond and not computer generated. They appear heavily processed but the cut still looks good. There might be some slight leakage under the table but it's hard to say. The proportions would lead me to believe there is some.


In a previous post you asked- "Do all images that show a basic hearts and arrows pattern mean that is is one?" In short, yes most vendors will market it as a H&A diamond if it exhibits the pattern. People here are a bit more quickly and wouldn't qualify most as true H&A though.

 

[Gypsy]

I don't like the angles on that one. Not without an Idealscope image. And they did not provide you with one. Is there a reason you are looking at them as a vendor? Do they have a setting you like? I think you can do better on the stone.

 

[User7013]

I picked it up from a different vendor for $6900. Mainly just to see if it would be a good stone in person. I have a 25 day return policy that I can rely on. Linked to since1910 because they had the image. Does it seem like its something I should return?

 

[Gypsy]

Buy an idealscope for 25 bucks from David Atlas and learn how to use it. At this point, you need to see it in person and evaluate it.

 

[User7013]

Buy an idealscope for 25 bucks from David Atlas and learn how to use it. At this point, you need to see it in person and evaluate it.

Things might get super interesting...

 

[User7013]

Hi again,

I wanted to see if anyone would be able to help me interpret these images? They are from the stone that I had made a payment on. The jeweler sent me these images to take a look at before they would mail it out to me. Although I'm in the process of learning about it, I feel more comfortable getting some input from the Prosumers on this forum

 

[Gypsy]

What are the numbers. Both the IS and the ASET show leakage under the table.

 

[User7013]

What are the numbers. Both the IS and the ASET show leakage under the table.

The numbers are as follows (it's the stone in the since1910 link):

6.8 x 6.84. 4.27

Table: 57
Depth: 62.6
Crown Angle 35.5
Pavallion Angle 40.8


Based on the available information, where would you categorize this diamond (on a scale of 1-10, 1 being absolutely terrible and 10 being sheer perfection)?

For learning purposes, is the light leak the lighter/white color that circles the center?

 

[Gypsy]

What are the numbers. Both the IS and the ASET show leakage under the table.

The numbers are as follows (it's the stone in the since1910 link):

6.8 x 6.84. 4.27

Table: 57
Depth: 62.6
Crown Angle 35.5
Pavallion Angle 40.8


Based on the available information, where would you categorize this diamond (on a scale of 1-10, 1 being absolutely terrible and 10 being sheer perfection)?

For learning purposes, is the light leak the lighter/white color that circles the center?

I'd give the stone a 7.5. It's a steep deep and showing it on the IS and the ASET.

I would pass. You can do better.

 

[User7013]

Thank you for the honest assessment!

 

[victorian10]

I've purchased two diamonds off since 1910. If you add a designer setting to your cart, the price of the diamond comes down. Here's one that I think is promising. Don't get too hung up on inclusions b/c I have a VS1 and an S12 and I can't tell them apart... one's even a G and the other is an H... One cost nearly half as much as the other. I'd ask them to get this in and take a look at it for you. All the numbers look lovely... It's dimensions are 6.65 x 6.71 x 4.14. Diamonds look so much different in person than in pictures. Ask them if it's eye clean and to send you a video.

http://www.since1910.com/diamond/1-14ct/h-si2/round/brilliant/cut/diamond/-r-8258-67796775

 

[victorian10]

This scores a 1.0 on the holloway cut adviser... you can see the arrows and the contrast pattern is good... you just need to look at it... It has great numbers and it's a great price.

 

[victorian10]

Here it is on whiteflash for about the same price... if you add a designer setting to it on since 1910, the price drops to around 4k. This one is worth looking into.
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3603944.htm

 

[diamondseeker2006]

What are the numbers. Both the IS and the ASET show leakage under the table.

The numbers are as follows (it's the stone in the since1910 link):

6.8 x 6.84. 4.27

Table: 57
Depth: 62.6
Crown Angle 35.5
Pavallion Angle 40.8


Based on the available information, where would you categorize this diamond (on a scale of 1-10, 1 being absolutely terrible and 10 being sheer perfection)?

For learning purposes, is the light leak the lighter/white color that circles the center?

In addition to what Gypsy said, the depth is 62.6. That means this stone looks small for it's weight. Better to go to 1.15-1.19 and get a better cut one. If you go back to the first page, I gave you parameters for all the measurements that would keep you in the safe zone when ordering a stone. You went out of the range on both crown angle and depth. Please stay within those measurements and you'll likely get more positive feedback (and often better images, but not always).