Help me pick a diamond for engagement ring please!

[famridinov4557]

Hi everyone, wanted to get this groups expert opinion on some diamond options. Please see below for the two options

Diamond 1: 2.16 carats, only have the specs not the HD symmetry pics

Diamond 2: 2.20 carats, have the HD pics but the symmetry looks a bit off

Would appreciate your eyes on the best diamond for the money and rough guidance on how much I should expect to pay for each. Thank you all so much and this would mean the world to my fiance.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Neither is well cut. And I don’t mean they are not ideal or perfect… I mean they are just plain badly cut. Sorry!

 

[Kim N]

I would pass on both. They will not sparkle. Can we help you find an alternative? Which country are you based in?

 

[famridinov4557]

Neither is well cut. And I don’t mean they are not ideal or perfect… I mean they are just plain badly cut. Sorry!

That bad? Yeeesh. How about the one below? I think the proportions came out nice but not sure given the size is smaller and it doesn’t have the HD cut pics like the first one.

 

[freddyboston]

thats not great - also has that small crystal on the table it's almost a Si1... but still eye clean..
you might be happier with this JA True Hearts 2.11 E Si1.... it's probably eye clean and better color and price.....$19,430

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/2.11-carat-e-color-si1-clarity-true-hearts-cut-sku-22263046?utm_source=affiliate&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=earthdiamonds-ps&a_aid=ps

 

[Dreamer_D]

That bad? Yeeesh. How about the one below? I think the proportions came out nice but not sure given the size is smaller and it doesn’t have the HD cut pics like the first one.

I would need pictures to confirm but I doubt this is much better. Do some searches here on pricescope regarding ideal proportions and examine images of well cut stones so you know what to look for.

 

[lovedogs]

Definitely none of the ones you linked. They are objectively bad. What's your budget?

 

[famridinov4557]

I would need pictures to confirm but I doubt this is much better. Do some searches here on pricescope regarding ideal proportions and examine images of well cut stones so you know what to look for.

Would you mind recommending some good thread for that. Unfortunately the day is coming up super quick and I need to make a decision on a stone asap. I got pics from the vendor for that one with the crystal too, but I can't tell as the quality is hard to gauge.



Is the one below any better? I am trying to get more keys for the tool but it keeps signing me out. Really appreciate your help by the way. This has been the nicest forum of people I have encountered haha.

 

[famridinov4557]

Definitely none of the ones you linked. They are objectively bad. What's your budget?

Budget is like 20k. These are options from a jeweler friend that can get me a diamond less the markup. So I've been trying to assess the best.

 

[freddyboston]

Adiamor has the 2.03 VS2 with the table crystal 58/36/40.6...

2.03 Carat G VS2 Round Brilliant Natural Diamond GIA Certified 7431746633 Affinity Cut - D63268613

2.03 carat, Round, G Color, VS2 clarity, GIA Certified Diamond, GIA Certificate 7431746633, Affinity Cut Natural Diamond, D63268613

www.adiamor.com

Here's the 2.20 faint 58 table 36 / 40.8

Movie

 

[lovedogs]

Budget is like 20k. These are options from a jeweler friend that can get me a diamond less the markup. So I've been trying to assess the best.

I'll be honest: getting a diamond from a "friend" jeweler is almost always a bad idea. They won't be able to get you a stone without the markup--it just isn't a possible thing for folks to do, otherwise they wouldn't have a business. Anyone who says they are a "wholesaler", etc, is just not being honest with you.

Here's an ideal cut diamond. Please notice how different it looks than the ones you posted.

Diamond | 2.16 ct I SI1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond GIA Certified | 4705023

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 2.16 carat I color SI1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the Gemological Institute of America (GIA). | 4705023

www.whiteflash.com

Buying the above diamond (or any of the in-house diamonds from WF) would be significantly better

 

[lovedogs]

Other options that are significantly better than the ones you posted:

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/2.11-carat-e-color-si1-clarity-true-hearts-cut-sku-22263046

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/2.05-carat-h-color-vvs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-22521386

 

[famridinov4557]

Other options that are significantly better than the ones you posted:

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/2.11-carat-e-color-si1-clarity-true-hearts-cut-sku-22263046

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/2.05-carat-h-color-vvs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-22521386

Dumb question but the 2.20 has the hearts and arrows below. What makes it bad? Is it the leakage?

 

[newtojewels]

Dumb question but the 2.20 has the hearts and arrows below. What makes it bad? Is it the leakage?

Do you see how the black background photo has a dark ring in the center? That's leakage. So it's very precisely cut, hence the hearts and arrows, but doesn't send enough light back into your eye.

 

[freddyboston]

for your price range Si1 eye clean is way to go......

By the way the James Allen 2.11 true hearts E color is also available to others ... maybe your friend can beat JA's price 19,430.... (very nice price for colorless H+A)
the GIA number is 1505163023

https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=1505163023&locale=en_US

 

[tyty333]

I always assumed the True Hearts were owned by JA...guess not!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Dumb question but the 2.20 has the hearts and arrows below. What makes it bad? Is it the leakage?

Yes notice the entire area under the table is darker. That means it is not reflecting back light to the eye and it will look lifeless and dark. This is not a well cut diamond per my standards or even looser "almost perfect" standards that I might still recommend.

 

[Dreamer_D]

I always assumed the True Hearts were owned by JA...guess not!

Maybe it changed after they got bought?

 

[Dreamer_D]

Would you mind recommending some good thread for that. Unfortunately the day is coming up super quick and I need to make a decision on a stone asap. I got pics from the vendor for that one with the crystal too, but I can't tell as the quality is hard to gauge.



Is the one below any better? I am trying to get more keys for the tool but it keeps signing me out. Really appreciate your help by the way. This has been the nicest forum of people I have encountered haha.

This one is not completely horrible but it is still very leaky and you can find better.

 

[freddyboston]

Maybe it changed after they got bought?

They are in House but given market conditions...Signet might be trying to move some of their owed inventory off the books....

 

[famridinov4557]

This one is not completely horrible but it is still very leaky and you can find better.

Sorry which one? The 2.2 carat?

 

[Dreamer_D]

Sorry which one? The 2.2 carat?

Sorry I didn't see they were different stones. They both have the same issues with leakage so I guess my comment applies to both!