Help! Pinpoints and Additional Not Shown in VVS2. GIA View

[morrikl]

We are on the verge of buying this stone (in next day or so) without seeing it ourselves...we have only seen the GIA certification. It has 4 pinpoints with Additional Pinpoints not shown under the Comments Section. Could there be tons of other pinpoints in it once we loupe it? Could they make the stone hazy? Its an H VVS2.

 

[bgray]

Re: Help! Pinpoints and Additional Not Shown in VVS2. GIA Vi

We are on the verge of buying this stone (in next day or so) without seeing it ourselves...we have only seen the GIA certification. It has 4 pinpoints with Additional Pinpoints not shown under the Comments Section. Could there be tons of other pinpoints in it once we loupe it? Could they make the stone hazy? Its an H VVS2.

not a chance. looks like a nice stone

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Re: Help! Pinpoints and Additional Not Shown in VVS2. GIA Vi

Nope, there are no concerns whatsoever about clarity with VVS2 (or VS1 for that matter).

 

[morrikl]

Re: Help! Pinpoints and Additional Not Shown in VVS2. GIA Vi

Thank you for your quick response Our local jewelers have been ripping the certification to shreads because of the Pinpoints and Faint Fluorescence. We were starting to wonder in we should really be worring, or if they all have ulterior motives !

Kelly

 

[bgray]

Re: Help! Pinpoints and Additional Not Shown in VVS2. GIA Vi

Thank you for your quick response Our local jewelers have been ripping the certification to shreads because of the Pinpoints and Faint Fluorescence. We were starting to wonder in we should really be worring, or if they all have ulterior motives !

Kelly

they have an ulterior motive. VVS2 stones are super clean. pinpoints are tiny dots. if you had so many pinpoints (hypothetically) that made the stone hazy it wouldnt be a VVS2! faint fluorescence is nothing to worry about and of no concern. it typically should make the stone a tad less expensive because no fluoresence is considered ideal BUT it is not uncommon and unless you care-- meaningless

also pinpoints are perhaps the most desirable "flaws" as they are not easily seen in a brilliant cut stone and have no impact on stability like a twinning wisp or natural etc etc. my emerald cut has "pinpoints" and they are off to the sides and I still cant see them unless i loupe and look hard. by the way, flaws are of two varieties: either aesthetic or relating to stability. in step cut stones aesthetics are more obvious. in any stone one prefers flaws that wont adversely impact the strength of the stone long term---and you have neither!

 

[Niel]

Re: Help! Pinpoints and Additional Not Shown in VVS2. GIA Vi

yeah sounds to me like they have an ulterior motive. The place I went though to get my stone set by ritani told me " flour makes it look milky or oily" which it TOTALLY didnt, and mine was a SB flour. It can have an effect but if the vendor you're getting it from says it has no negative effects then there you go. The local vendor probably just wants you to buy their diamonds. With that said have you only seen the cert? or pics of it too? I know you said sight unseen but i didnt know if that meant IRL or at all.

 

[morrikl]

Re: Help! Pinpoints and Additional Not Shown in VVS2. GIA Vi

No, they said they don't take pictures of a stone of that clarity...that they only take pictures of the inclusions if they can be seen to the naked eye. They have a 30 day free return policy, so I guess we will have to keep our fingers crossed! Thank you

 

[CharmedOne]

Re: Help! Pinpoints and Additional Not Shown in VVS2. GIA Vi

Sounds like a lovely stone and the return policy give you an out if your not happy. So I say go 4 it too

 

[JulieN]

Re: Help! Pinpoints and Additional Not Shown in VVS2. GIA Vi

your jewelers are concerned about VVS2 and faint fluorescence? I wouldn't do business with them.

 

[kenny]

Re: Help! Pinpoints and Additional Not Shown in VVS2. GIA Vi

GIA-VVS2 is SUPER clean, even under 10x you may have a hard time finding the pinpoints.
There is NO way GIA-VVS2 pinpoints and faint fluorescence will make a diamond hazy.

A tiny minority of Very Strong fluorescence diamonds have a hazy look.

If your jeweler is not selling you the stone but only setting it they are being unethical.
They want the profit for selling the diamond so they are scaring you into not buying this stone.
If this is the case I'd find a new jeweler - plus they may have a policy of not being liable for damage to the stone during setting if they did not sell you the diamond.

If they are selling you the stone then their comments are perplexing.
Perhaps there is some reason they would make less money on that particular stone so they want you to buy another.
In this case, I'd find a new jeweler.

Perhaps they are just ignorant about which levels of fluorescence MAY cause haziness, in which case I'd find a new jeweler.

 

[junebug17]

Re: Help! Pinpoints and Additional Not Shown in VVS2. GIA Vi

your jewelers are concerned about VVS2 and faint fluorescence? I wouldn't do business with them.

ITA.

 

[stci]

Re: Help! Pinpoints and Additional Not Shown in VVS2. GIA Vi

your jewelers are concerned about VVS2 and faint fluorescence? I wouldn't do business with them.

ITA.

DITTO

 

[morrikl]

Re: Help! Pinpoints and Additional Not Shown in VVS2. GIA Vi

Thank you all !!!

 

[GreenBling]

Re: Help! Pinpoints and Additional Not Shown in VVS2. GIA Vi

i have VS1 and VS2 stones which i can hardly find the inclusions under loupe. I wouldn't worry about clarity of a GIA VVS stone.

In fact, I'm happy with VS, even SI as long as the stone is eye clean and no integrity concern.

Did you specifically ask for VVS stones? Would you consider lower clarity for bigger size / higher color?

 

[04diamond<3]

Re: Help! Pinpoints and Additional Not Shown in VVS2. GIA Vi

your jewelers are concerned about VVS2 and faint fluorescence? I wouldn't do business with them.

agreed.

 

[CharmyPoo]

Re: Help! Pinpoints and Additional Not Shown in VVS2. GIA Vi

I am not concerned about the clarity or even the depth and table percentages. But have you seen the diamond in person? The plot pattern often is an indicator of the "crushed" ice look but you may like that.

 

[morrikl]

Re: Help! Pinpoints and Additional Not Shown in VVS2. GIA Vi

No, we aren't seeing it first, but we can return it free of charge for the thirty days. How can you tell by the cerification if it has a crushed ice look? Thanks!

 

[CharmedOne]

Re: Help! Pinpoints and Additional Not Shown in VVS2. GIA Vi

I think she is referring to the facets on the pavilion or whatever you call the bottom part of the stone

 

[morrikl]

Re: Help! Pinpoints and Additional Not Shown in VVS2. GIA Vi

Thank you! It does look it may be the crushed ice look...but we both are a fan

Thanks