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HELP - Stone for her TINY finger!

dcd

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Hi Everyone,

I have been lurking on this forum for ages now. I have been trying to sneakily get my girl her dream stone – and I found it! The problem is that as I wait for it to arrive, I am growing increasingly concerned about the size as it relates to her tiny fingers!

The stone is a 1.5ct round. Everything on the stone is perfect and I sourced it through family connections so I don’t have any doubts in that regard.

The stone is arriving tomorrow, and I am getting increasingly worried that may be TOO BIG. She thinks she is a size 3 finger. I only know of one ring that fits on that finger, and I snuck a quick measure of it and it looks like she may be closer to a 4.

Either way, we are talking about a small finger. I have been googling for days trying to get opinions of diamond size for such a small finger. Most pictures I see are of hands that are proportionately smaller, so while helpful, I still can’t visualize it on her. Her fingers are small but are long and slender (and remarkably beautiful – not just saying that because of who she is ) so I think I big beautiful rock would look great.

I want it to be a surprise so I can’t just ask her. I know she does like big rocks – one time a few years ago I think she was trying on some 1ct + stones and really seemed to like them. But trying something on for 30 seconds is not the same as wearing it forever, and it was so long ago that I don’t recall the exact size. Of course I actually don't know how serious she is when she professes her admiration for big diamonds. She pulls my leg a lot.

The ring is a wholesale deal and a favor – basically I was told that I can put the stone on her finger if I want an idea of the size, but once it is set, I own it.

So my questions:

• Will placing the stone on her finger give a good idea of the size when it is set (I was thinking a small solitaire setting)
• Is there a setting that would be more favorable than a thin solitaire setting?
• Is it just…. Too big? The thought of spending extra for something she will like less makes me feel a bit queasy. I have stressed enough over this for the both of us….it would kill me inside if I knew it stressed her out in any way at all.

Thanks to everyone on this board. I have been spending countless hours lurking and this is a great resource!
 
I have a friend with a tiny finger who wears a stone of that size and it looks amazing on her hand. I don't think it's "too big" and I think only she will know if it's not going to work. I think she is going to love it because you got it for her and proposed with it though.
 
I wear a size 3 and have longish fingers. A 1.5ct will look great on her.
 
Thank you both for the replies. Any opinion of the value in placing the bare rock on her finger to get an idea of the size? Would that be accurate? The problem is that if she likes it and it is not in a setting, she cant wear it on christmas day (proposal day) but if I set it and IF she wants to look around a bit more just to be sure, she is out of luck because I own the thing.
 
No, it is a great size. Not too big.
 
Looks like everyone here has a significant other who must stress about these things for the opposite reason than I am :)
 
mm size is better to figure out how big it'll face up, but I'm with the other, it's probably not going to be too big...unless she has a job or social circle that makes it too noticeable.
 
It sounds like you own it either way or am I misunderstanding. I would get it set into a simple mounting either way, because unset isn't a true representation of how it's going to look on her hand. She can always change the setting later, and get something more elaborate or whatever. Just tell her this setting is simply so she can wear something til she finds the setting/wedding set of her dreams and this stone can be put into that.
 
I agree with some of the other posters, that there's really no such thing as too big :tongue: BUT, I have a friend that's a size 3.75, pretty long fingers (she's taller at 5'4"). Her ring is 1.81cts (7.81x7.84mm), hope this helps!

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1.5 ct round is not too big for a size 3 or 4. I'm a size 4.5 and my cushion is the size of a 1.7ct cushion (7mm across), and it's definitely not too big.
 
Agreed, there's really no such thing as "too big" or "too small" so long as the wearer is comfortable with it. Also, shrinkage sets in very quickly and you get used to the size. I am a size 3 and have had a 1.5 round, followed by a 3 carat cushion and find they don't look large on me.

FWIW I have also tried on a 6 carat cushion and think it looks perfect on my hand, while my friend think it's too huge, so it's all relative :naughty: If your gal as you said loves large rocks, the issue of looking "too big" probably won't be an issue.
 
I've recently had a sapphire ring made and the comment my jeweller made, when we discussed stone size, was "jewellery shrinks". However, given the intransigent policy of not being allowed to return the diamond if it's set and this is causing you considerable stress, I vote for giving her the diamond unset and being able to exchange it for another. I know it's lovely to do a surprise but it's far more important to have a ring that is going to be loved long term and getting her a lovely ring is a process and one that involves working out the size of diamond she'd love to look at on her finger. Receiving a beautiful diamond may also give her ideas on how she'd like to see it set or let you know that you're free to choose something for her.
 
I think that a 1.5ct would look great on her finger. I'm 5'2 and wear a size 4. My fingers aren't long. I've tried on a bunch of sizes ranging from 0.90 - 2.0 and I think that 1.5 is a sweet spot. You don't need to worry. Everything about the stone sounds lovely.
 
HI:

My sister's ER finger is 3.75 and not only does she wears large gemstone rings which look fabu, but she has a diamond in the range you describe. All look wonderful on her...as did my 5.01.

She'll rock it!

cheers--Shaorn
 
Only a man would ask this question, surely lol *joking!! but...*
too big...as if... :wacko:

Actually, I think personally that 1.5 is a beautifully wearable and elegant size, juuuust the right size for enjoyable diamond viewing and comfortable daily wearing.

If she does worry about the stone, my suggestion would be to consider a very low set, low maintenance setting rather than trading the stone.

It's a lovely and generous size for a proposal ring!! ::)
 
ame|1356037128|3336739 said:
It sounds like you own it either way or am I misunderstanding. I would get it set into a simple mounting either way, because unset isn't a true representation of how it's going to look on her hand. She can always change the setting later, and get something more elaborate or whatever. Just tell her this setting is simply so she can wear something til she finds the setting/wedding set of her dreams and this stone can be put into that.
I like Ame's idea! Getting an unset diamond as a gift doesn't have the "wow" factor that she'd get if its set in a simple setting. And if there's a 30 day return policy, I'd think it should be no problem to return it & have the diamond transferred into a setting she likes.

I also want to give you a heads up so you're not surprised by her possible initial reaction. Since you know she'll think the stone is huge, while she'll love the sparkle she might also list a million reasons why its too big & she shouldn't wear it (incl fear of knocking & damaging it, etc). If this happens, no worries, just have her live with it for a few days/weeks, especially around the house when she's not doing much, & see how she feels then. When I first saw my recent upgrade, both DH & I were overwhelmed & I thought the size was crazy. But after two days I really don't find it ridiculously large at all!
 
Roxy|1356079999|3337084 said:
I also want to give you a heads up so you're not surprised by her possible initial reaction. Since you know she'll think the stone is huge, while she'll love the sparkle she might also list a million reasons why its too big & she shouldn't wear it (incl fear of knocking & damaging it, etc). If this happens, no worries, just have her live with it for a few days/weeks, especially around the house when she's not doing much, & see how she feels then. When I first saw my recent upgrade, both DH & I were overwhelmed & I thought the size was crazy. But after two days I really don't find it ridiculously large at all!

oOOH GOOD point Roxy!!! So true!!
 
Roxy|1356079999|3337084 said:
ame|1356037128|3336739 said:
It sounds like you own it either way or am I misunderstanding. I would get it set into a simple mounting either way, because unset isn't a true representation of how it's going to look on her hand. She can always change the setting later, and get something more elaborate or whatever. Just tell her this setting is simply so she can wear something til she finds the setting/wedding set of her dreams and this stone can be put into that.
I like Ame's idea! Getting an unset diamond as a gift doesn't have the "wow" factor that she'd get if its set in a simple setting. And if there's a 30 day return policy, I'd think it should be no problem to return it & have the diamond transferred into a setting she likes.

I also want to give you a heads up so you're not surprised by her possible initial reaction. Since you know she'll think the stone is huge, while she'll love the sparkle she might also list a million reasons why its too big & she shouldn't wear it (incl fear of knocking & damaging it, etc). If this happens, no worries, just have her live with it for a few days/weeks, especially around the house when she's not doing much, & see how she feels then. When I first saw my recent upgrade, both DH & I were overwhelmed & I thought the size was crazy. But after two days I really don't find it ridiculously large at all!
Agreed, excellent advice. My "upgrade" was due to my original being stolen, and when I first got that stone (I think Jon at GOG might recall this) I was totally freaked, and the size was about 1/3ct more than the original which is still well under your 1.5ct range, but to me that thing was a freaking MONSTER. I was having a lot of panic and second thoughts...but now I have shrinkage sometimes. The fact that I rarely wear my rings at all (mostly due to where I work) helps that though. lol Now when I do wear it it's a good size.
 
Thank you to everyone for the input. You are all very helpful! I am leaning toward the temporary setting suggestion.

This is her first piece of jewellery of significant value - let's hope it isn't the start of an addiction!
 
dcd|1356097210|3337184 said:
Thank you to everyone for the input. You are all very helpful! I am leaning toward the temporary setting suggestion.

This is her first piece of jewellery of significant value - let's hope it isn't the start of an addiction!
Oh you can count on it becoming an addiction..And you guys will have wedding bands to buy too ;)
 
Get it in a temp setting ASAP - she's gonna won't to wear it around!!!
 
ame|1356097948|3337198 said:
dcd|1356097210|3337184 said:
Thank you to everyone for the input. You are all very helpful! I am leaning toward the temporary setting suggestion.

This is her first piece of jewellery of significant value - let's hope it isn't the start of an addiction!
Oh you can count on it becoming an addiction..And you guys will have wedding bands to buy too ;)

I actually noticed a band that that I liked a lot... it was 200 bucks! What is wrong with this picture :lol:

Thank you to everyone for your help. You have put my mind at ease!
 
Size is more relative to the diamonds around the person as opposed to the size of her finger. If her friends and sisters all have 3 ct. stones, then 1.5 cts may seem small. If they all have half carat stones, then 1.5 will seem huge. :bigsmile:

Would you like to share the specs on the diamond with us (off the GIA report)? We can tell you if it is a well cut one or not. That would be a good thing to do while it can still be exchanged. We've seen some of these "family friend wholesale" deals go very badly before.
 
dcd|1356119646|3337543 said:
ame|1356097948|3337198 said:
dcd|1356097210|3337184 said:
Thank you to everyone for the input. You are all very helpful! I am leaning toward the temporary setting suggestion.

This is her first piece of jewellery of significant value - let's hope it isn't the start of an addiction!
Oh you can count on it becoming an addiction..And you guys will have wedding bands to buy too ;)

I actually noticed a band that that I liked a lot... it was 200 bucks! What is wrong with this picture :lol:

Thank you to everyone for your help. You have put my mind at ease!
Cheap date! Good for you bec hers won't likely be 200 bucks ;)

Glad we could help!!! Get that baby set, and show us some pics!
 
Sure:

62.6% depth
55% table
34.9 degree crown
41.2 degree pavilion

H color, no fluorescence and VVS2 clarity.

GIA certification is Excellent/Excellent/Excellent

I think the pavilion angle is hurting the HCA score (which I believe is 3.6), but I tried to balance between the different definitions of "Ideal" proportions. I observed a smaller stone with identical specs and was very impressed with it despite the fact that it too is a bit deep for HCA (it was 41.2 pavilion angle and 35 degree crown). Of course I welcome opinions on this - I'm far from an expert.

Ultimately the proof is in the pudding so if it's a dud, I am not handing over the cash.... then sprinting out the door for a last minute Christmas gift!
 
dcd|1356126953|3337626 said:
Sure:

62.6% depth
55% table
34.9 degree crown
41.2 degree pavilion

H color, no fluorescence and VVS2 clarity.

GIA certification is Excellent/Excellent/Excellent

I think the pavilion angle is hurting the HCA score (which I believe is 3.6), but I tried to balance between the different definitions of "Ideal" proportions. I observed a smaller stone with identical specs and was very impressed with it despite the fact that it too is a bit deep for HCA (it was 41.2 pavilion angle and 35 degree crown). Of course I welcome opinions on this - I'm far from an expert.

Ultimately the proof is in the pudding so if it's a dud, I am not handing over the cash.... then sprinting out the door for a last minute Christmas gift!

Can you tell me the ct weight and the diameter, please? It is deeper than we'd recommend and I am afraid it will face up small for it's weight. I'd also be a little concerned about the angles because with a 34.9 crown angle, I would think you'd need less than 41.0 for the pavilion angle to avoid leakage. But let's look at diameter first. (A GIA XXX is not going to be a dud by any means, but when you are spending thousands, you may as well get the best one possible!)
 
It is 1.5ct, 7.35mm diameter.

I too think that it might face up a bit on the small side, but am not overly concerned since I am paying what I would have for a 1.25ct of identical specs.

The only thing I really don't want to sacrifice is the sparkle :)

Thank you once again for all of the feedback!
 
7.35 isn't too bad. I like seeing 7.4mm, but that is very close. Give me an idea of the price.
 
They don't have much else to choose from in that price range. I would either need to bump it down to 1.25 or spend a minimum of $1K more to even look at something else that size. I already stretched my budget a bit beyond what I had planned.

I was trying to get something with a lower HCA score but really couldn't. So as long as it isn't dull looking I think this is my best option for now. I already sent one back that looked a bit dull to me (despite perfect grading). I don't want to have a stone that looks like there was an obvious sacrifice of quality over size... something about that just seems tacky to me.
 
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