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BrianJohnson

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Hey all. I just got a GIA report for a diamond with the following specs.
I was wondering how much you would pay. Also do these proportions look good to you?

Shape: Round Brilliant
Measurements 7.71 - 7.74 x 4.80
Carat 1.75
Color F
Clarity VS1 (small inclusion, on the table but not eye visible)
Cut Excellent
Polish Excellent
Symmetry Excellent
Fluorescense None
Culet None
Girdle mediu to slightly thick (faceted 4.0%)
Table 56%
Depth 62.1 % (15% top, Girdle, 43.5% bottom)
 
its easy to do a comparison with the top vendors here.

Simply go to JamesAllen or GOG or Brian Gavin to get a ball park figures of similar diamonds within the same specifications.
 
angles?
 
What kind of prices did you find when you ran the diamond search engine (as I'd suggested in your previous thread)?

I was hoping that would give you an idea of what to expect price-wise, WRT avg dimensions, etc to get you started. Did it help?
 
This one is quite close to the specs of the stone you are considering. A quick search looks like you could expect to pay any where between $21000-$27000 for a stone with similar specs.

http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.76-carat-F-color-VS1-clarity-Excellent-cut-sku-131038

Are you firm about choosing a stone with this high color/clarity combo? It's possible to drop to a G VS2 and the stone can look identical to the unaided eye and you could save a lot of money...just a thought. :))

http://jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.73-carat-G-color-SI2-clarity-Excellent-cut-sku-191204

edit: oops, the second stone is an SI2, it popped up in my search for VS2 stones, I thought that was an incredible buy! lol
 
This is for an engagement ring. I'd like for it look clear - while getting the best bang for my buck (especially if I'm payin $20k-$30k).

Is here a noticeable difference between F and G colors?
Does G look clear? Here are the specs I've been thinking about.
Apologies for any redundancy here with a previous post.
Any assistance would be much appreciated.


Option1
Round Brilliant
Carat 1.75; 7.71 - 7.74 x 4.
Color F
Clarity VS1 (no eye visible inclusions - small crystal and cloud on table)
Cut/Policy/Symmetry X/X/X
HCA 3
Flourescence: None
Culet: None
Girdle: medium - slightly thick (4.0%)

Option 2
Round Brilliant
Carat 1.8; 7.82 - 7.87 x 4.8
Color G
Clarity VS1 (no eye visible inclusions - small feather on the front-side)
Cut/Policy/Symmetry X/X/X
HCA 1.5
Flourescence: None
Culet: None
Girdle: thin - medium (3.0%)

Here are the GIA Reports should this help..thanks!!!!

Option 1: http://idealbrilliant.com/diamond/product/certificate?lot=Q578

Option 2: http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-1-carat-signature-ideal-cut-g-color-vs1-clarity_LD02062470?keyword_search_value=LD02062470
 
"clear" has nothing to do with color - color doesn't have a "haze" to it or anything. You can have a perfectly crystal clear P color for example. The color difference between F and G isn't large at all, and unless you are extremely color sensitive an excellent cut G is a great compromise. It will save some money, and you won't notice a difference between it and an F.

That said, I have a D and 2 G's and I can see the difference there. The G isn't "yellow" AT ALL - it just isn't "invisible" like a D. Some people actually prefer a G as it is slightly softer on the eye if that makes any sense. Sometimes a D can be too white for some people. And my G's face up just as white as the D, it's only at an angle - when I'm looking for it - that I can see a difference.
 
I like option 2 of your selection the best. The proportions are better. I'm not a huge fan of BN though, not because they aren't reputable but because they can't offer you any additional information on the stones such as idealscopes to help evaluate the stones likely performance, or magnified images to see the stones faceting and any inclusions.

As far a color I agree with ecf, that once the stone is set it will be very difficult to see color differences. As far as clarity a VS1 will look as clean as a VVS1 in almost all cases, in fact I personally can't think of an occasion where it hasn't. VS2's are generally all eye clean from the top and likely from the sides, but I have seen cases where they haven't been, usually in much larger ct weights though and it's very rare. I think most here feel that the best bang for your buck is a G/H VS1/VS2, they will still be very white, very clean and a high quality stone without sacrificing any IRL visual aspect. The cut of the stone is what is going to provide the amazing optics and beauty that diamonds are known for, so any sacrifices there would be a mistake.

Here is a video on color that might help you. It's very difficult to discern color differences in photos but I think that Jon did a great job with the video and it does show the minute differences well...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcmSj8dOLRI
 
Thanks so much Christina! This really helps put me at ease. I've heard mixed reviews about BlueNile - and in fact have a friend who recently returned an engagement ring from them because of visible inclusions. Likeweise, I've read similar blogs from others - and we're talking VS1's and VS2's. Hopefully this will work out better for me. My biggest concern is the G color rating. I've been to a couple stores and feel that I can tell the difference between an F and G pretty easily. Well when they are in natural light, with a white background, upside, and right next to each other :-). Hopefully once in the setting, like you guys said, it will look perfect (fingers crossed).
 
BrianJohnson|1360539254|3376966 said:
Thanks so much Christina! This really helps put me at ease. I've heard mixed reviews about BlueNile - and in fact have a friend who recently returned an engagement ring from them because of visible inclusions. Likeweise, I've read similar blogs from others - and we're talking VS1's and VS2's. Hopefully this will work out better for me. My biggest concern is the G color rating. I've been to a couple stores and feel that I can tell the difference between an F and G pretty easily. Well when they are in natural light, with a white background, upside, and right next to each other :-). Hopefully once in the setting, like you guys said, it will look perfect (fingers crossed).
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I'm happy that you are feeling more confident. :)) Just remember that color difference are much less obvious in well cut stones. When you are comparing color side by side make sure that you are comparing apples to apples, for example a GIA G next to a GIA F. There are labs, EGL for example, that grade more loosely therefore comparing a GIA graded F next to a EGL G can look many shades off, likewise comparing an excellent cut G next to a poorly cut G will have a visual difference as well.
 
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