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robbie3982

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Thank you all for the job dust! I''m so excited I want to jump up and down and scream at the top of my lungs!

I haven''t officially accepted yet, but I''m definitely going to.

Does anyone have any helpful tips on salary negotiation? I''ve never tried to negotiate a salary before, but my soon-to-be boss told me the salary range at my interview and what they offered me is the the very bottom. Don''t get me wrong, I''d be extremely happy even if they won''t negotiate since it''s still a lot more than I''m making now, but I feel like since I know it''s the very bottom of the range that I should at least try, right?

Omg, I''m so excited!!!
 
CONGRATS!!!

Sorry I don''t have any tips for you. I didn''t negotiate... I said you''re paying me this or I go elsewhere. Just make sure you let them know what you feel you are worth and why. Try Google. I''m sure it has a lot of info on it for these things.
 
Congrats, Robbie!!!!! That''s so exciting!!!! Best of luck in your new position!!!!
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Congrats Robbie!

Yes, always negotiate. Their job is to get you at the best price. Your job is to look out for yourself. Most employers make an offer with some wiggle room.

Depending on the range, I say 10-15% more is doable. I would definitely be appreciative of the original offer. Say you are very excited to work for the company, but was thinking of a salary of X and would be pleased to accept an offer with that compensation package.
 
Date: 2/26/2008 4:08:47 PM
Author: TravelingGal
Congrats Robbie!

Yes, always negotiate. Their job is to get you at the best price. Your job is to look out for yourself. Most employers make an offer with some wiggle room.

Depending on the range, I say 10-15% more is doable. I would definitely be appreciative of the original offer. Say you are very excited to work for the company, but was thinking of a salary of X and would be pleased to accept an offer with that compensation package.
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Ditto!! And Congrats Robbie, you must be sooo excited!!!
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woohoo Robbie-congrats! I agree with TGal-just say that you would be very happy to work for them however you would like X salary and see what they say.
 
Yay Robbie!! Congratulations! When do you start? And I can''t remember, does this mean a move for you and your husband?
 
Congrats, Robbie!

I missed the previous thread, but I would ditto everything TGal said.
 
Congratulations! I would definitely negotiate, especially since they offered you the low range. My sister and I have both negotiated successfully for salaries that were well over what we were offered originally, and it feels so good!

I would tell them you had, say 15% more in mind because of your experience/expertise/etc., and see what they counter-offer. I would ask for more than what you're willing to settle for, because it's likely they'll want to meet you somewhere in the middle of what you ask for. If they won't negotiate but you're still happy with they offered, then oh well-you won't have lost anything and you'll still have a new job you're excited about!

ETA that like Sparkalicious said, you should ask for the mid range of the salary range if you have relevant experience. Otherwise, I would do the 15% more thing.
 
Congrats Robbie!
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I agree with the advice you''ve been given about negotiations ... Somewhere closer to the midpoint of the range they gave you should be good ... or at least a good place to start and they will likely counteroffer if it is outside of what they had in mind.
 
Congrats Robbie, does this mean you guys can move back to your home town area? Wasn't that your plan?

Re: salary negotiation, I agree that if you've been offered the lowest end of the pay scale, you should indeed aim more towards the middle range and negotiate downwards a bit. That said, I may be playing the negotiation game soon too and I wonder if thing2 could tell us how she did her negotiating, since she was successful??? Thanks thing2!
 
Date: 2/26/2008 4:08:47 PM
Author: TravelingGal
Congrats Robbie!

Yes, always negotiate. Their job is to get you at the best price. Your job is to look out for yourself. Most employers make an offer with some wiggle room.

Depending on the range, I say 10-15% more is doable. I would definitely be appreciative of the original offer. Say you are very excited to work for the company, but was thinking of a salary of X and would be pleased to accept an offer with that compensation package.
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Ditto!
 
Congrats Robbie!!

Regarding salary negotiation, check out salary.com to start with. this site might be able to give you an idea of what you should be looking for based on your skills, lenth of experience and location. It is not a perfect site, but it is one that is being referenced by job seekers.

Regarding salary negotiation, you can go about it several ways and your method will depend on what you can emotionally handle. Personally, I am rather a wimp at negotiations, but I do ask for more than what is being offered and ususally get it. I have read articles suggesting that you never name the number you are looking for, rather you let the company bounce numbers your way.
 
congrats Robbie! i think that it depends on the company and the "boss" who is offering the position. how bad do they need you? if there were an abundance of good candidates you may not have any negotiating power if the job market there is not so great. some companies have a budget set for a job and don''t negotiate. if a certain amount of dollars is available they may even choose an applicant with less experience who is coming from a lower paying job as long as they are qualified. i am not saying this is true in your case just offering another perspective. some employers want to make sure you are a good fit before they add more compensation. with all of that said if you feel that you can get the extra bucks more power to you. but if the "boss" knows you really want the job and were making less he may not budge. nothing ventured nothing gained. good luck!
 
Not sure what the specifics of your situation are, but you could always say, "I am very excited to receive your offer. I am also considering another position and they are offering $5 million. However, my first choice is to work with you. Is there any possibility that you can increase the offered salary? I really would prefer to work for you, but I''m trying to weigh the different salaries."

Congrats Robbie!
 
Thanks for the congratulations everyone!!!

LegacyGirl, wow, I wish I had the guts to do that! The thought of negotiating makes me queasy
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Thanks Dani!

TravelingGal, thanks for the advice! If I could get 15% more I''d be ecstatic! That would be a bit below the middle of the salary range they gave me at the beginning to.

Thanks Kaleigh! I''m soooo freakin excited! This isn''t just a new job, it''s a move back to our hometown and we''ll be able to finally buy our first house!

Thanks Bee! I think that''s the method I''ll try.

Zoe, we haven''t set an official start date yet. The HR rep said it''s flexible since they know I need to move. They did mention in the interview that they would like someone right away though. I''m guessing I''ll be there no later than the end of March. Happy 25th bday to me (It''s at the end of March)! Yep, this means a move back home! I''m so excited!!!

Thanks Lauren!

Thanks thing2of2! 15% would be a bit under the mid-range. Agh. I''m getting nervous just thinking about this convo!

Thanks sparkalicious!

Surfgirl, it does mean we can move back! I''m so excited! I feel like our lives have been on hold while I searched for this job and now we can finally move forward!!!

Thanks Gypsy!

Thanks omiluv! I''ll have to search for some of those articles to see if they give any example convos of how to get them to bounce the numbers.

Thanks crown! The boss did ask what I was hoping to make and what I said was below the salary range. Woops. He isn''t the one I''ll be negotiating with though. I''ll be calling the HR rep and she didn''t ask what I was looking to make and hopefully he didn''t remember to tell her. Either way though, I''ll be happy.
 
Date: 2/26/2008 5:02:13 PM
Author: CrownJewel
Not sure what the specifics of your situation are, but you could always say, ''I am very excited to receive your offer. I am also considering another position and they are offering $5 million. However, my first choice is to work with you. Is there any possibility that you can increase the offered salary? I really would prefer to work for you, but I''m trying to weigh the different salaries.''

Congrats Robbie!
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Thanks! Is it ok to lie about that though since there''s no other job? What if they ask who the other job is with?!
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YaYYYYYYYY! Congrats!!!

It never hurts to ask for more compensation. My husband did and was turned down (same situation as you - he KNEW he wanted the job, and they offered low), but his boss offered to do an evaluation after 6 mos rather than 1 yr, so he will be getting an early raise. Also consider what else would compensate you other than the flat salary - for example, would you prefer to have a certain kind of computer or equipment in your office? Would you like extra vacation days? Depending on the company, these things can be included in negotiation.
 
congratulations robbie!
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i''m happy for you guys!
 
Congrats Robbie! That''s great you will finally get to move back to Pittsburgh with family and get away from Ytown
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Date: 2/26/2008 5:02:13 PM
Author: CrownJewel
Not sure what the specifics of your situation are, but you could always say, ''I am very excited to receive your offer. I am also considering another position and they are offering $5 million. However, my first choice is to work with you. Is there any possibility that you can increase the offered salary? I really would prefer to work for you, but I''m trying to weigh the different salaries.''

Congrats Robbie!
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LOL...only do this if you DO have another offer. People don''t like to be taken for a ride.

I have negotiated successfully in my last two jobs. I find that employers hate/are uncomfortable with negotiating as much as we do/are, so it''s not unusual not to get a counter offer back and have them just agree with what you are are asking for.

It helped that both times, I really wasn''t desperate for the job. They wanted me more than I wanted them. I was able to tell they wanted me because both companies called me after the interview the next day to make me an offer, which put the ball in my court


In job one, the employer balked when they called me in to personally make me an offer and I asked for more. In this case the guy who was offering me the job was part owner of the company. It wasn''t a small company (it has worldwide presence) but wasn''t anywhere near big either. He actually said to me that he offered me "X%" over my last job (since they asked for salary history and I never lie about that...it''s the one bit of info that HR is allowed to give out).

I smiled and said I really appreciated the offer, but I wanted to think about it for 24 hours. Would he be OK with that? He was. And then I wrote him the following letter:

Dear Mr Moneybags:

I have considered your compensation plan and would like to offer a proposal.


Based on our conversation, there are areas that are not negotiable – namely Tightwad Company''s 401K and vacation policy.


I have analyzed some numbers based on my previous salary and benefits, and have come up with the following:


• I had received a 401K company match of 6% of my salary of $X, which totals $X.


• I also received an extra week of vacation at $X per week.


These benefits are valued at a total of $X.


Therefore, I would like to negotiate my base salary to $X per year. I would be pleased to accept your offer of an $X commission plan, totaling my compensation to $X per year. This total compensation would be about a X percent increase over my previous compensation, which I believe to be a satisfactory target for growth.


Should you find this an acceptable proposal, I would be very pleased to join Company Tightwad''s team, and would be ready to contribute 110% to Company Tightwad''s vision and goals. I am available to begin employment with Company Tightwad on Monday, September 22, 2003.


I look forward to hearing from you, and will drop off the background check paperwork to your office at that time.


Best regards,
TGal.

This guy was a numbers nerd and he didn''t even bother arguing when I laid it out like this. He approved it the very next day.

With employer number 2, he made me a verbal offer and I said, "I''d like to be honest with you, I was seeking compensation that was more like X. If you could make that happen, I''d be happy to accept your offer." He came back with it in the next hour and and gave me what I wanted.


Depends on the employer...some are hesitant, others are not. Some salaries really don''t have much wiggle room. The fun part of about the job world is learning how to navigate it.
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Congrats! I have no tips on salary negotiation either. In fact, I just accepted a job today without even asking what the salary was. To be fair to myself, I didn''t expect them to call me at almost 6pm while I was trying to catch a tube in the middle of London rush hour.

I hope you get it worked out. Congratulations again!
 
Date: 2/26/2008 6:44:23 PM
Author: Addy
Congrats! I have no tips on salary negotiation either. In fact, I just accepted a job today without even asking what the salary was. To be fair to myself, I didn''t expect them to call me at almost 6pm while I was trying to catch a tube in the middle of London rush hour.

I hope you get it worked out. Congratulations again!
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Addy, I hope you can go back and do so...you''re worth it!

Ladies, PLEASE negotiate! I am not normally an "I am woman hear me roar" type of gal, but this is where we women fail dismally short of men! We get paid less because we don''t ask!

If they want you, you have the bargaining power BEFORE you sign on the dotted line. It can put you a year or two ahead in your salary. If you ask for 10-15% from the getgo, and the average corporate raise is 2-5%, you''ve put yourself way ahead. Not to mention raises are often based on percentage of your current salary to the more you earn, the more you will make.

If done respectfully and with tact, I find that they never hit you.
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TGal - I''m considering it, but since they know what my current salary is (legal to ask in the UK as well as how many sick you''ve had and what they were for among other things such as family situation) I don''t feel as though I have much bargaining power. Even if I''m offered the low end of the range it''s a substantial pay raise and they know it. Plus I work for a charity which I feel makes bargaining a bit harder to begin with. And I was never able to bargain at my past government jobs so I have absolutely no experience of even asking at all.
 
Date: 2/26/2008 7:18:02 PM
Author: Addy
TGal - I''m considering it, but since they know what my current salary is (legal to ask in the UK as well as how many sick you''ve had and what they were for among other things such as family situation) I don''t feel as though I have much bargaining power. Even if I''m offered the low end of the range it''s a substantial pay raise and they know it. Plus I work for a charity which I feel makes bargaining a bit harder to begin with. And I was never able to bargain at my past government jobs so I have absolutely no experience of even asking at all.
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Well, the bottom line is that you are happy.
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Both my last employers knew my salary history but I still persisted. Salary history, to me doesn''t matter. They have a salary range and I didn''t care to be at the bottom of it.

Although now that you have accepted, it probably is a little trickier. And I certainly know employers who have been put off by it, so the key is to feel it out and know how much to ask for. I''m also in sales. I would think I wouldn''t be worth my weight in gold if I didn''t try to negotiate!
 
Date: 2/26/2008 4:40:46 PM
Author: surfgirl
Congrats Robbie, does this mean you guys can move back to your home town area? Wasn''t that your plan?

Re: salary negotiation, I agree that if you''ve been offered the lowest end of the pay scale, you should indeed aim more towards the middle range and negotiate downwards a bit. That said, I may be playing the negotiation game soon too and I wonder if thing2 could tell us how she did her negotiating, since she was successful??? Thanks thing2!
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But of course, surf!

In my most recent case, my salary negotiation and increase was at the job I currently have. In my review, I was offered a raise of x % and the opportunity to make quarterly bonuses, which I previously didn''t have. I was actually expecting a much larger raise than that, so I was surprised and pretty pissed. I told my bosses that I was unhappy with the proposed raise, as I was actually expecting to receive a y % raise (which was more than 3 x the percentage amount they offered me).

We arranged another meeting, and I laid out quite clearly the reasons why I absolutely deserved the y % raise. They agreed with me and gave me the big raise I wanted, and they kept the bonus structure as well.

In my sister''s case, like Robbie, she was negotiating at a new job that she was offered. She was offered X by HR lady over the phone, and she told the HR lady right away that she was actually looking to make Y, which was about 15% more than what she was offered.

The HR lady said, well, if you take this Spanish language proficiency test (my sister was a Spanish major in college), I can offer you Y. My sister said, "Hmm, let me consider your offer." She decided she wasn''t comfortable with having to take a test for her salary, basically, so she called the HR lady back and said "I''m actually not comfortable with taking the exam immediately. I would rather take it after I''ve been in the job for a while. However, I am looking to make Y." So the HR lady gave her Y anyway.

So the moral of the story is: negotiate and you''ll most likely get more! Phew, sorry that was so long!
 
Date: 2/26/2008 6:51:47 PM
Author: TravelingGal

Ladies, PLEASE negotiate! I am not normally an 'I am woman hear me roar' type of gal, but this is where we women fail dismally short of men! We get paid less because we don't ask!

If they want you, you have the bargaining power BEFORE you sign on the dotted line. It can put you a year or two ahead in your salary. If you ask for 10-15% from the getgo, and the average corporate raise is 2-5%, you've put yourself way ahead. Not to mention raises are often based on percentage of your current salary to the more you earn, the more you will make.

If done respectfully and with tact, I find that they never hit you.
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I just wanted to give a big DITTO to this! I meant to point this out myself in my first reply! I've read about a study where female entry-level job applicants (I want to say that they were lawyers fresh out of law school) just did not negotiate, which is why their male counterparts started out at higher salaries than they did. It wasn't necessarily because the HR people were sexist, but if you don't ask, you're not going to get a bigger salary!

ETA that I can't ditto the entire post by TGal because I actually am an "I am woman hear me roar" type of gal!
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You know...the f word!
 
Yeah!!!!

That is awesome. Good luck with the negotiations.
 
Congrats Robbie!!! I''m so excited for you!!!

The ladies here have covered salary negotiation very well, so I don''t really have anything to add besides GO FOR IT. I usually ask "is there any room for negotiation" to find out if they are open to it, but I''m not as "go get ''em" as T-Gal.
 
Date: 2/26/2008 8:23:15 PM
Author: thing2of2

Date: 2/26/2008 6:51:47 PM
Author: TravelingGal

Ladies, PLEASE negotiate! I am not normally an ''I am woman hear me roar'' type of gal, but this is where we women fail dismally short of men! We get paid less because we don''t ask!

If they want you, you have the bargaining power BEFORE you sign on the dotted line. It can put you a year or two ahead in your salary. If you ask for 10-15% from the getgo, and the average corporate raise is 2-5%, you''ve put yourself way ahead. Not to mention raises are often based on percentage of your current salary to the more you earn, the more you will make.

If done respectfully and with tact, I find that they never hit you.
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I just wanted to give a big DITTO to this! I meant to point this out myself in my first reply! I''ve read about a study where female entry-level job applicants (I want to say that they were lawyers fresh out of law school) just did not negotiate, which is why their male counterparts started out at higher salaries than they did. It wasn''t necessarily because the HR people were sexist, but if you don''t ask, you''re not going to get a bigger salary!

ETA that I can''t ditto the entire post by TGal because I actually am an ''I am woman hear me roar'' type of gal!
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You know...the f word!
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