I just received my diamond and its perfect, except maybe...

[Passion4diamonds]

Hello! Needing advice or reassurance as I only have a 9 day window to return (from very reputable online co) and I'm not sure if this is the best stone I can get for my money. I am not a diamond expert but an educated admirer id like to say.

Let me start by saying my budget was $30k w/ very little wiggle room. I wanted a Mrb 2.5-2.6 G or H eye clean SI1. XXX or very close to it.
They found me one of the most gorgeous 2.52 H AGS 000 H&A I've ever seen in my life. The arrows jump out of the stone, they are that clear! They assured me it was eye clean even though they said and report showed a white inclusion under the table. When I received it took me a minute but I spotted that white inclusion with my naked eye. I've tested it in every light and its impossible to find in some lighting conditions and the 3 people ive asked so far have not been able to find it with their eyes. Sometimes it just looks like a white sparkle or facet, sometimes I cant find it and sometimes an inclusion. If the experts could weigh in and tell me if this is the best stone I can get for my budget w/ out compromising size and color?
Is there anyone out there who has gotten used to their inclusions?
Thank you for your input!

 

[Sparklelu]

Re: I just received my diamond and its perfect, except maybe

I kind of like that my stone has a tiny inclusion I can find. Not that I'd want a big black blob on the table! Just a small birthmark that let's me know it's still my stone. I would think a white inclusion will be harder to spot.
Do I forget it's there? Yes I often have to tilt my stone in a very specific angle to find it.
Your ring is new, trust me after a few years you won't be staring at it as intently and that inclusion will be harder to find.
But only you know you. Are you the type of person to ignore something you know is there? A mind clean kind of thing I guess?
Funny story, I inherited a ring from my grandmother and love the ring, it has two fairly large diamonds. And before PS I never even knew they had inclusions. I got a loupe and spotted them and now when I look at the stones carefully I can find them, and I'm amazed that I had never seen them before!!!

 

[Dreamer_D]

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I can't really comment on whether its your best buy for your money, there are too many variables at play in defining "best". I am sure you have compared prices using the search function. Whether the inclusions matter -- its all in your mind! Will you always be looking for the inclusions or will you be able to leave it alone? If the latter, than this seems like a good selection. If the former, then you might need to compromise other specs to get a truly truly eye clean stone.

 

[hearts-arrows_girl]

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Your stone looks gorgeous! I think you got your money's worth. It looks huge. Enjoy your new diamond! SI1's have inclusions that are pretty easy to find. As long as it doesn't interfere with it's sparkle, it's a keeper at a great price! You will drive yourself crazy if you keep second guessing yourself. (like you get a VS2, then are unhappy cause it's smaller than you wanted, or a K color, then you want whiter...the list goes on and on) I would happily wear that huge rock! You did great balancing the 4C's. Can't wait to see it set!

 

[Gypsy]

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It would not be mindclean for me. Whether that is the case for you... I can't say.

 

[AnneinGA]

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If you've had it a few days and are already trying to pick out the inclusion I daresay it's not mind clean to you. For $30K I'd want it to be absolutely exactly what I want.

 

[Niel]

Re: I just received my diamond and its perfect, except maybe

I've purchased a stone that had a visible inclusion if you were looking but not on the hand. I knew it and I didn't care. If it doesn't change your enjoyment of the stone I would keep it.

Even super models have beauty marks

 

[msop04]

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Honestly, I think you lucked out and found an amazing stone at a good price. There are no "mind clean" issues with me... if I can't see it, and no one else can see it without looking forever, then it's good! It is what it is... either it's easily seen or it's not. Sounds like it's not! Yay for you -- and YAAAAYYYY for your FF!! She's gonna be mesmerized by this stone!!

Try not to think too hard on it, and don't let anyone else or the inclusion (you can't even see) rain on your parade -- you said it yourself, you have to REALLY look and can only spot it in certain light... others can't see anything at all. Great find in an eye-clean SI that just happens to be huge and gorgeous.

 

[msop04]

Re: I just received my diamond and its perfect, except maybe

I've purchased a stone that had a visible inclusion if you were looking but not on the hand. I knew it and I didn't care. If it doesn't change your enjoyment of the stone I would keep it.

Even super models have beauty marks

HA! Love this! ...and this one is most definitely a super model.

 

[JamesT14]

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It's beautiful!!!

How many mm is the band? I really like how thin it is!

 

[msop04]

Re: I just received my diamond and its perfect, except maybe

If you've had it a few days and are already trying to pick out the inclusion I daresay it's not mind clean to you. For $30K I'd want it to be absolutely exactly what I want.

I agree that it may not be "mind clean" since he keeps trying to find it... however, he said that it's really hard for him to find it, and others can't find it at all.

Unless he specifically points it out to his FF, I doubt she'd even think to look for an inclusion, much less be able to see it. It sounds like it's eye clean, so if that's what he was aiming for, then he got it. It doesn't help the whole "mind clean" issue when others sort of "down" his diamond. Most people will never see the minute "imperfections" PS members will look for and be able to notice.

OP did his research -- he went all out and got a white diamond with an the absolute best cut you can buy and in a very impressive size... there are very very few people that would find something wrong with it -- and they're probably on PS.

 

[msop04]

Re: I just received my diamond and its perfect, except maybe

It's beautiful!!!

How many mm is the band? I really like how thin it is!

I think it's in a temporary holder, but it would look like "BOOM!!" in a solitaire!! Let's be honest, that stone's gonna look great in any setting!!

 

[kenny]

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If it bugs you it bugs you.

Yes there is an inclusion there that's very apparent in that pic taken with special lighting conditions called dark field.

but, when it comes to deciding whether to keep it or return it …
Nobody who has seen it matters.
Nobody on the Internet who has not seen it matters.
Regular pictures don't matter, and darkfield pictures like the one you posted (which make inclusions 10 times more noticeable than regular light) don't matter.

Nothing matters to whether or not you keep it but you.
If you want to keep it, keep it.
If you want to return it, return it.

Personally I'd keep it for the full refund period to really be sure of my decision.

BTW, I agree that if it bugs you now it will always bug you.
I'm a clarity snob and I don't like a prominent black inclusion in my diamond but I decided to live with it because similar diamonds are simply not available.

We all rationalize however we rationalize.

 

[Laila619]

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I wouldn't be bothered by it at all, but it's *your* stone obviously, and so you are the one who needs to be happy and love it! It sure is gorgeous though!

 

[Passion4diamonds]

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You are all amazing for taking the time to help me rationalize my decision! I will keep mulling it over but will probably keep as I'm pretty sure it will be impossible to find a comparable beauty! Thanks again!!!

 

[Dancing Fire]

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$30k is a good price for a "true H&A" 2.52 ct H SI1 stone . Any pic of the hearts?

 

[heididdl]

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$30k is a good price for a "true H&A" 2.52 ct H SI1 stone . Any pic of the hearts?

of all t he comments i think similar to Dancing Fire. The stone is an Si but cut is king and for the 2.52 size you got with the hearts and fire. you got a wonderful stone for the price. If you feel you settled think of it more that you slightly compromised for a great cut stone that is huge..And as others have noted every stone has its beauty marks. My stone is si1 and I know exactl where the imperfection is eh so i spend hours staring at it. But when I am driving the car and the glare from the sparkle hits my face I smile and know i have gorgeous stone.

Enjoy it. There is Nothing Perfect out there. Every stone will have some sort of compromise and I think yours is the smallest ..

 

[msop04]

Re: I just received my diamond and its perfect, except maybe

$30k is a good price for a "true H&A" 2.52 ct H SI1 stone . Any pic of the hearts?

of all t he comments i think similar to Dancing Fire. The stone is an Si but cut is king and for the 2.52 size you got with the hearts and fire. you got a wonderful stone for the price. If you feel you settled think of it more that you slightly compromised for a great cut stone that is huge..And as others have noted every stone has its beauty marks. My stone is si1 and I know exactl where the imperfection is eh so i spend hours staring at it. But when I am driving the car and the glare from the sparkle hits my face I smile and know i have gorgeous stone.

Enjoy it. There is Nothing Perfect out there. Every stone will have some sort of compromise and I think yours is the smallest ..

Really good advice, heididdl...

 

[Niel]

Re: I just received my diamond and its perfect, except maybe

You are all amazing for taking the time to help me rationalize my decision! I will keep mulling it over but will probably keep as I'm pretty sure it will be impossible to find a comparable beauty! Thanks again!!!

Try and think of it another way. how many of your boxes does it tick? Do you think you'll be able to find one with arrows that pop the way you describe these? do you think you'll have to compromise on size or color to be able to get another stone with a completely eye clean appearance from every angle in every lighting ever? are you content to spend more money or more time looking around?


Is the compromise in clarity the compromise you want to make? or do you want to make it somewhere else?

 

[alene]

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Looks to me like a pretty substantial inclusion for SI1 and if you can see it, well, then it's not eye clean. Only you can decide if you're ok with it, but personally I'd pass. You can find a much cleaner SI1, I can't find a thing in mine with a loupe. As for the price, GOG has a 2.5 h SI1 listed for $29k, I'd check it out.: http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/12067/

 

[diamondseeker2006]

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Looks to me like a pretty substantial inclusion for SI1 and if you can see it, well, then it's not eye clean. Only you can decide if you're ok with it, but personally I'd pass. You can find a much cleaner SI1, I can't find a thing in mine with a loupe. As for the price, GOG has a 2.5 h SI1 listed for $29k, I'd check it out.: http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/12067/

Ditto. Eye visible inclusions are a deal killer for me, and please do something while you are in your return period!

 

[Gypsy]

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As for the price, GOG has a 2.5 h SI1 listed for $29k, I'd check it out.: http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/12067/

... please do something while you are in your return period!

Agree. I'd take another look at this GOG stone and I'd return the visibly included stone.

 

[Passion4diamonds]

Re: I just received my diamond and its perfect, except maybe

As for the price, GOG has a 2.5 h SI1 listed for $29k, I'd check it out.: http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/12067/

... please do something while you are in your return period!

Agree. I'd take another look at this GOG stone and I'd return the visibly included stone.

Thanks again to everyone for the feedback. After reading the recent posts I'm now starting to think it may not be the stone for me as I'm more concerned about the inclusion than excited about the stone. This GOG stone looks good except I do not want fluorescence. I have a lot of thinking and deciding to do!

 

[Passion4diamonds]

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I'm not the best photog but I tried to capture the white inclusion for you to see. It's in the lower left of the table. This is taken under a fluorescent desk lamp with no other light on in the room at night.

 

[Gypsy]

Re: I just received my diamond and its perfect, except maybe

You won't even notice Medium Fluorescence. Not even in sunlight.

I don't understand your comment. You'd rather have a visibly included diamond that one that has a PERFECTLY safe characteristic you will never even notice (except that it may positively effect the whiteness of your stone).

I'm sorry, but that just sounds like you need more knowledge about fluorescence.

 

[Passion4diamonds]

Re: I just received my diamond and its perfect, except maybe

You won't even notice Medium Fluorescence. Not even in sunlight.

I don't understand your comment. You'd rather have a visibly included diamond that one that has a PERFECTLY safe characteristic you will never even notice (except that it may positively effect the whiteness of your stone).

I'm sorry, but that just sounds like you need more knowledge about fluorescence.

I would rather not have a visible inclusion and you're right, I don't know a ton about fluorescence but have heard conflicting views on it.

 

[Passion4diamonds]

Re: I just received my diamond and its perfect, except maybe

You are all amazing for taking the time to help me rationalize my decision! I will keep mulling it over but will probably keep as I'm pretty sure it will be impossible to find a comparable beauty! Thanks again!!!

Try and think of it another way. how many of your boxes does it tick? Do you think you'll be able to find one with arrows that pop the way you describe these? do you think you'll have to compromise on size or color to be able to get another stone with a completely eye clean appearance from every angle in every lighting ever? are you content to spend more money or more time looking around?


Is the compromise in clarity the compromise you want to make? or do you want to make it somewhere else?

Niel- it ticks all the boxes and then some! It's not a mind clean thing. I'm good with an eye clean SI1. The problem is I can see the inclusion with my naked eye in some kinds of lighting and don't know if it'll bother me permanently.

 

[Gypsy]

Re: I just received my diamond and its perfect, except maybe

You won't even notice Medium Fluorescence. Not even in sunlight.

I don't understand your comment. You'd rather have a visibly included diamond that one that has a PERFECTLY safe characteristic you will never even notice (except that it may positively effect the whiteness of your stone).

I'm sorry, but that just sounds like you need more knowledge about fluorescence.

I would rather not have a visible inclusion and you're right, I don't know a ton about fluorescence but have heard conflicting views on it.

There is no conflict.

Either a stone is hazy and over blue. Which has a much higher chance of happening with D-F stones. And with certain clarity characteristics.

Or it isn't. I doubt that stone does. But all you need to is call and ask if the Fluorescence has a negative effect. If the answer is no (and it probably will be with that stone) you won't even notice that you have it with Medium. If it was Strong or Very Strong you'd see it in direct sunlight. Which most people love, but if you didn't I would understand.

Here you go, here's some reading for you. [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/calling-all-florescence-experts.198989/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/calling-all-florescence-experts.198989/[/URL] Don't take my word for it. A bunch of trade members commented in that thread.

 

[MarionC]

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one note on fluorescence...I had no idea that some of my diamonds had it, and I've been wearing them for years. When I finally put them under a little UV light last week I was practically hopping up and down I was so excited. I thought they looked amazing under the light. To me it's a plus and now I would actually seek out fluorescence for my next diamond.

 

[luvdajules]

Re: I just received my diamond and its perfect, except maybe

Hi OP, your diamond is gorgeous and huge! But I understand if the inclusion is not mind clean for you. You should feel happy and proud to wear your ring and you might not be 100% because of it. I just wanted affirm on the advice of fluorescence, many PSers seek out fluorescence in the h/i and lower range cause it can help make the diamond seem whiter in some lighting conditions. I also wanted to point out Phoenix's Brian Gavin Signature h&a stone she'd like to sell for $29k that seems to fit the bill and slightly larger than your current stone. Check it out on Pricescope Cafe (Pre-Loved section). Had to double check, Phoenix's stone does NOT flouro. The GOG stone, although lovely, is not true H&A but still a top grade cut and lively performer, given the diagrams.