I want the old PS, and I want it NOW!!

[dragonfly411]

I agree as well.

I'll also note that most of the folks that I know of on the FB group I am a part of still post here as frequently as before, including myself. I don't get on FB enough for it to make that much of a difference in how I post here.

 

[TravelingGal]

Honestly, I don't know what is sadder...what sad posted, or that she did it.

So what have we all learned:

There are PSers on FB
There are mean PSers on FB
Some mean PSers are mean enough where they really don't give a crap about their actions
Some mean PSers don't think they're mean
If you say something of notice, PSers may talk about you behind your back
Women love to gossip
Women don't love to be gossiped about
This happened before facebook with PMs here
This happened with no PMs here
People like to feel part of a group
Group dynamics can be cruel
Pointing this all out doesn't change much for most people

This isn't just PS. It's what happens in LIFE. And life. moves. on.

 

[fieryred33143]

I have had quite a few PS requests on my real FB page that I am not accepting for two reasons:

1. I feel that if I add you on my real page with my real name and all of my information, then you should do the same for me. It isn't fair that I give and in return all I get is a PS persona. There were some people (I think 4 or 5 in total) that were "grandfathered" in due to the nature of our relationship on PS.

2. In receiving these requests, I clicked on their account and could see everything. What was being posted by them, what was being posted to them, etc. If you don't want FB conversations to be posted on here, then I urge everyone once again to look into your privacy settings. In case you don't know how to do that, I'm sure someone will show you. Off the top of my head (I can't get on FB during work hours) I think it's as simple as Account on the far upper right hand corner > Privacy > Custom. I have mine so that if you are not a friend you should only see my profile picture, name, and one network that I can't figure out how to delete.

Also, I just wanted to say that I am really happy I was able to find others on FB. I have made wonderful friendships here and love that I can share even more of my life with them. I will admit that I *do* show favoritism towards them BUT I'm not into group think. If they don't agree with something, that doesn't mean that I'm going to change my opinion to match theirs.

And as observant as I am, I actually don't witness that kind of behavior on here There are a couple that do seem to want to stick up for their PS favorites no matter what but no harm done.

 

[iwannaprettyone]

Yikes, I am sad to have stumbled on this....

...this too shall pass.

 

[Steel]

Oooh. This FB drama is like looking into a different world! I had no clue all of this was going on behind the curtains. I am almost tempted to try to register - just to have a peep at y'all and what you get up to.
But it is far too much like effort . and I couldn't even be bothered to cook dinner.

 

[Maisie]

Its really not like that at all. At least not on my wall. The only time I have ever posted about a poster was the other day and that is public knowledge. Its usually really normal every day stuff.

 

[HollyS]

My thoughts on Pricescope Facebookers (or non-FBs) Who've Dubbed Themselves The In-Crowd:

I truly cannot imagine why anyone over the age of 14 would feel it necessary to plot and plan behind the back of another poster, seek to humiliate or discredit them, or just get plain old nasty. WHY? If this makes someone feel special, then they need therapy. They truly must be a most miserable person to want to inflict misery on others.

Anyone who participates, even in silence, with that sort of behavior, is as bad as the ringleader. So please don't think you're above the fray; knowing about it and saying nothing is giving it your stamp of approval.

I can't think of anything more shameful than a group of grown women, or men, purposely choosing to be vindictive ***holes.

Kudos for screwing over others. You're so cool.


And yes, it does make a difference if it is happening. And yes, it is life. But let's not sweep it under the rug and say, "Oh, well. It happens. What are you going to do?"

How about we stop tolerating it?

 

[dragonfly411]

My thoughts on Pricescope Facebookers (or non-FBs) Who've Dubbed Themselves The In-Crowd:

I truly cannot imagine why anyone over the age of 14 would feel it necessary to plot and plan behind the back of another poster, seek to humiliate or discredit them, or just get plain old nasty. WHY? If this makes someone feel special, then they need therapy. They truly must be a most miserable person to want to inflict misery on others.

Anyone who participates, even in silence, with that sort of behavior, is as bad as the ringleader. So please don't think you're above the fray; knowing about it and saying nothing is giving it your stamp of approval.

I can't think of anything more shameful than a group of grown women, or men, purposely choosing to be vindictive ***holes.

Kudos for screwing over others. You're so cool.


And yes, it does make a difference if it is happening. And yes, it is life. But let's not sweep it under the rug and say, "Oh, well. It happens. What are you going to do?"

How about we stop tolerating it?

Just to point out, currently there is a FB group that I and others might be referring to that is newer and had nothing to do with the previous vindictive one. Just so everyone knows b/c many of us who are on the new one were not a part of the previous one, and also wouldn't want to be grouped into having been a part of the previous one.

Carry on.

 

[TravelingGal]

My thoughts on Pricescope Facebookers (or non-FBs) Who've Dubbed Themselves The In-Crowd:

I truly cannot imagine why anyone over the age of 14 would feel it necessary to plot and plan behind the back of another poster, seek to humiliate or discredit them, or just get plain old nasty. WHY? If this makes someone feel special, then they need therapy. They truly must be a most miserable person to want to inflict misery on others.

Anyone who participates, even in silence, with that sort of behavior, is as bad as the ringleader. So please don't think you're above the fray; knowing about it and saying nothing is giving it your stamp of approval.

I can't think of anything more shameful than a group of grown women, or men, purposely choosing to be vindictive ***holes.

Kudos for screwing over others. You're so cool.


And yes, it does make a difference if it is happening. And yes, it is life. But let's not sweep it under the rug and say, "Oh, well. It happens. What are you going to do?"

How about we stop tolerating it?

Holly, my opinion is that people who don't tolerate it generally don't get involved to begin with. I agree what what you mean about sweeping it under the rug, but in my post was in the context of PS...let's move on folks...no need to stir the pot posting private FB conversations on PS.

And yes Holly, women over 14 do this. I learned this the hard way when I was involved in a small private forum (only about 14 members) with women who found each other from a travel forum. Even then, I had a policy of don't email me to say anything, say it on the board. So they left me alone. But what that did was make me completely IGNORANT of the stuff that was going on behind the scenes...in a group that started "between friends." I was completely blindsided when the moderator of the board said she was going to ban a member...when the rules of the board said that stuff had to be voted upon. Nice, sweet women in their FIFTIES became seriously psychotic b*tches. I just said, whoa whoa, what's going on here! and made my observations/comments in my usual blunt way. This was followed up with the women all emailing me to tell me their side of the story and getting UPSET that I wasn't taking their side. I was the youngest member of that board when I joined at 30 years old (left when I was 32 or 33, I think). I was so shocked that older, distinguished, normal seeming women could behave like this that I left, on the spot. Since I disagreed with the moderator actions, she pretty much screamed at me to not let the door hit me on the way out. And this was a woman who sent me wedding presents, helped me learn how to cook and was as sweet as pie for years. She took it extremely personally that I didn't agree with what she had done.

And she was a grandmother...definitely over 14.

 

[HollyS]

dragonfly: That's why I titled it "The PS FBers That Dubbed Themselves The In-Crowd".

Obviously there are FBers from PS that aren't involved in the past creepy behavior.

 

[HollyS]

TGal:

I know people are like this. I understand that they are, even when it seems impossible to believe. When I say I cannot imagine, I guess I mean that I cannot fathom why someone WANTS to do such a thing.

I was on a famous author's website forum for awhile. I still check in. Low and behold, women (and men) were doing the same nasty backbiting in print and behind the scenes. Her publisher got wind of it, and darn near shut the site down. They had to do some serious cleaning up. Some of us started our own group site just to talk in peace.

So I know it happens. I don't get it. But it happens.

But I'm all for doing some 'calling out' here if necessary. Making people accountable might go a long way toward cleaning our vermin out.

 

[TravelingGal]

TGal:

I know people are like this. I understand that they are, even when it seems impossible to believe. When I say I cannot imagine, I guess I mean that I cannot fathom why someone WANTS to do such a thing.

I was on a famous author's website forum for awhile. I still check in. Low and behold, women (and men) were doing the same nasty backbiting in print and behind the scenes. Her publisher got wind of it, and darn near shut the site down. They had to do some serious cleaning up. Some of us started our own group site just to talk in peace.

So I know it happens. I don't get it. But it happens.

But I'm all for doing some 'calling out' here if necessary. Making people accountable might go a long way toward cleaning our vermin out.

I guess my point (which was not made well) was that people don't WANT to be like that. They get sucked into it. It's human to have feelings, to need to vent, express them, commiserate, and yes, be snarky. It's hard to not suckered in, have opinions, take sides and for the few pathetic, execute a plan of action to humiliate someone else in the name of "principle."

Sadly, for me, the easiest way not to get involved is to generally keep internet people at arm's length. But that also means I don't get the benefit of really good friendships either. I guess I'll focus on the drama in my real life.

 

[Dancing Fire]

don't blame me gossipping about other PSers,cuz i'am not a member of FB...

 

[Madam Bijoux]

^^^Neither am I, partly because I've read about hackers getting ahold of FB members' personal information and partly because of the FB goings-on mentioned in this thread.

 

[Gypsy]

Well, this post has become a ray of hope. Lots of tricky, emotional, polarizing stuff here and everyone (for the most part) has managed to be respectful, thoughtful, and accountable for their own posts. Nice to see that we can still do it.

Sad-- Thank you for 'backing me up' though I was okay just hanging out on my own ... What makes me sad is that you didn't feel like you could speak your true thoughts under your own name because for me that means that you are putting your "loyalty" to your friend above your loyalty to yourself, your own moral code. Clearly you see what is wrong and feel strongly about it, but just as clearly you aren't trusting yourself and acting on those strong feelings openly and with confidence. I understand that, I really do and I thank you for doing what you did, but I do hope that for your own sake you start trusting your gut and acting on it more in the future. Groups of people can evolve into cults and gangs. And group think, especially about notions of loyalty is always an issue that is very strongly enforced by the leaders or bullies of any group like that.

I don't have a large circle of friends because I have found people who can be true to themselves, while respecting and admiring differences in others to be rare. I am blessed with strong freindships with those who I have found. And I can tell you, when one of my friends stands up and says to me... NO, that isn't right. I listen. And I appreciate that they loved me enough to do that. We all make mistakes. I can be a first class b*tch when I get into certain moods and I take it out on random people. While I try to be concious of it, I sometimes get so angry I stop caring who or what I hurt (yes, I am in therapy). At those times my husband will say STOP. My best friends will say STOP. STOP because *I* as your husband or your best friend will NOT tolerate that behavior period. Directed at me or directed at anyone else. STOP. For me, THAT is real loyalty. That is true friendship. If I were your friend, the one you are protecting, I'd appreciate you telling me directly your thoughts and being honest with me. Your 'friend' may not feel that way... but then, is she really your friend and worth your loyalty in that case? Do you want a friend you have to lie to, who you can't be yourself with? A 'friend' who allows me to hurt myself and others and stays quiet isn't a true friend. They aren't a true friend to themselves or to me. A friend who gets angry instead of respectfully listening (even if they ultimately disagree) with me for standing up to them, or for telling them my honest thoughts about a sitation isn't a true friend.

I agree with Holly that even to be a member of such a group that has evolved into a gang or cult or whatever you want to call it, whether that member is active or not, is giving tacit permission/approval of the groups actions by remaining a member. That's why I dropped out immediately following what happened. I had two good friends join me in dropping out as well, because they were as disturbed by what was going on as I was.

Sad, whoever you are... you have a good heart. I just hope you learn to trust it more. You've taken a big step... when your ready I hope you'll take the next. ((HUGS)) and much thanks.

ETA: By the next step I only mean that if something comes up again "Sad" on PS next time I hope you will feel confident enough to own your feelings by posting under your own name. AND by standing up to people WHILE THINGS ARE HAPPENING or DIRECTLY AFTER, if you don't agree. AND by having honest interactions with your friends and telling them your true feelings when you don't like what they did. I did NOT mean that sad or ANYONE should start naming names or pointing fingers on PS for something that has long since passed

 

[Maisie]

I wonder what good calling out specific posters would do. If this is something which happened such a long time ago, maybe they have changed since then. And calling them out would cause a massive reaction towards them on PS and that would be really horrible to see.

 

[TravelingGal]

I wonder what good calling out specific posters would do. If this is something which happened such a long time ago, maybe they have changed since then. And calling them out would cause a massive reaction towards them on PS and that would be really horrible to see.

I think it does nothing! Gah!

Everyone gossips! Everyone! Not everyone bullies, but hey, it happened. If they're not sorry, then there's a place in hell reserved for them. If they are, let's forgive em!

Seriously, who hasn't sh*t talked at some point? And that isn't even the point of the whole FB drama thing. This has been going on for DAYS on PS now and it seems to me now that there IS no point!

(However, it certainly gives me pointless stuff to read during my workday. I need coworkers. )

 

[Gypsy]

I wonder what good calling out specific posters would do. If this is something which happened such a long time ago, maybe they have changed since then. And calling them out would cause a massive reaction towards them on PS and that would be really horrible to see.

Whoa. I didn't say that calling out the posters of that incident should be done now. I meant AT THE TIME THEY WERE PLANNING IT WHILE they were planning it, is the time to say NO. Calling them on it. And objecting. Or right after, if you weren't in time to stop it. And even now, if Sad still feels like it was something that was wrong and it is bothering her that she didn't say anything, I was saying that she should talk TO THAT PERSON (one on one) and tell them her true feelings.

Sorry if I wrote that wrong. I was NEVER even thinking that people should be outed for what they did a year ago. Even when I originally brought it up I didn't name names. The only named person was the one who came on and said, "I was part of that" themselves and admited to being part of it.

 

[Steel]

So, I got off my @rse and had a little peep-a-roo behind the curtain. There is not much doing. PS has no fear in me trotting off to the land of cloaks and daggers.

Yup. Thanks for the distraction; it was fun to have a peep at you guys .

 

[Maisie]

I wonder what good calling out specific posters would do. If this is something which happened such a long time ago, maybe they have changed since then. And calling them out would cause a massive reaction towards them on PS and that would be really horrible to see.

Whoa. I didn't say that calling out the posters of that incident should be done now. I meant AT THE TIME THEY WERE PLANNING IT WHILE they were planning it, is the time to say NO. Calling them on it. And objecting. Or right after, if you weren't in time to stop it. And even now, if Sad still feels like it was something that was wrong and it is bothering her that she didn't say anything, I was saying that she should talk TO THAT PERSON (one on one) and tell them her true feelings.

Sorry if I wrote that wrong. I was NEVER even thinking that people should be outed for what they did a year ago. Even when I originally brought it up I didn't name names. The only named person was the one who came on and said, "I was part of that" themselves and admited to being part of it.

I was answering Holly I should have quoted her post.

 

[dragonfly411]

I'm sorry. I have to say that. I've had to sing it in my head all day for the past two days. Every time I see this thread's title I start singing the song Veruca Salt sings in Willy Wonka.

"Don't Care How, I want it now"

 

[E B]

First, I'd like to point out that I'm saying this as someone who was never a part of the initial 'mob' (from that incident A YEAR AGO), nor am I a part of any elite 'in-crowd' at Facebook. I AM a member of a group that talks a lot of sh*t, but not the kind you think. Think literally.

I don't really see what good Sad's anonymous post did. She revealed that people gossip, complete with a couple of private conversations that, in my opinion, were pretty harmless. But what good did it do? They were private conversations between friends who found each other outside of PriceScope, conversations that weren't meant to be shared or to hurt anyone's feelings. But they're public now, and they've hurt feelings. Mission....accomplished?

People will connect outside of anonymous groups, and with a certain place in common, said place will be discussed. It's one of the things they have in common, for frick's sake. And people are going to gossip. Possibly about me, or about you. It isn't anything we can control, so why try?

And it should go without saying that it certainly isn't THE reason PS isn't what it used to be. It is, however, easy to point the finger at.

Has anyone stopped to think that certain PS Facebook groups were created because they're a smaller, more intimate place to discuss problems? Issues? A place where a fake name isn't needed for fear of unwanted lurkers. A place where people feel more comfortable posting photos of themselves, of their families? I certainly wouldn't jump to the conclusion that they're all hotbeds of sh*t talking, but maybe it's because I haven't been invited to one of those groups yet. And I don't care.

 

[risingsun]

I have only been on FB for the past few months. Some of your know my story, others don't. The short version: I have been ill and don't get out of the house very often. My best friend died suddenly this year. Both of my cats also died. I had to give up my career due to my health. There have been other losses, as well. When a fellow PSer assisted me in joining and finding my PS friends on FB, it helped me reduce the isolation and depression I had been feeling. I didn't join FB to belong to secret FB groups, I joined to connect with my friends on a different level. I won't say I have never talked about PS, because there have been times that I have. It has not been to make trouble for anyone, but to ask for support when someone has gone after me or to say thank you when someone has been particularly nice to me. Through FB, I have gotten in touch with Cavalier King Charles Spaniel owners all over the world. I've become involved in worthy causes. I have found my fellow Monty Python fans and more.

FB isn't all about PS. It is what you decide is important to you. I can have both PS and FB, without causing harm to either. Please don't make assumptions about what I and others are doing on FB. You are likely to be wrong.

 

[Gypsy]

EB- I have. I have avoided any break off groups, whether on FB, or anywhere else because as T-gal said, you sometimes need to keep the internet at a distance. I just joined a new FB group that started but am not actively posting and I probably won't be a member for long. Just long enough so that a few of the PSers I am not already connected to in that way can find me, and I can find them. At that point, I'll drop out of the group and just keep in touch with people one on one. I can see myself joining a group made up of PS Crazy Cat Ladies though. Some group that has it's roots in a common interest, and is interested in supporting like minded people, or people in the same place in life. Where the goal is connection and support, not just gossipping about PS. So, no. I certainly don't think all the FB groups are PS terrorist cells. I know that there are parenting groups, and dog groups, and reading groups and decorating groups... whatever. But, MY point is, when you are a member of any group, you have to be careful to watch the group dynamic and if something is wonky, call it out, or leave, don't just go along with something out of a misplaced sense of loyalty .

 

[MonkeyPie]

First, I'd like to point out that I'm saying this as someone who was never a part of the initial 'mob' (from that incident A YEAR AGO), nor am I a part of any elite 'in-crowd' at Facebook. I AM a member of a group that talks a lot of sh*t, but not the kind you think. Think literally.

I don't really see what good Sad's anonymous post did. She revealed that people gossip, complete with a couple of private conversations that, in my opinion, were pretty harmless. But what good did it do? They were private conversations between friends who found each other outside of PriceScope, conversations that weren't meant to be shared or to hurt anyone's feelings. But they're public now, and they've hurt feelings. Mission....accomplished?

People will connect outside of anonymous groups, and with a certain place in common, said place will be discussed. It's one of the things they have in common, for frick's sake. And people are going to gossip. Possibly about me, or about you. It isn't anything we can control, so why try?

And it should go without saying that it certainly isn't THE reason PS isn't what it used to be. It is, however, easy to point the finger at.

Has anyone stopped to think that certain PS Facebook groups were created because they're a smaller, more intimate place to discuss problems? Issues? A place where a fake name isn't needed for fear of unwanted lurkers. A place where people feel more comfortable posting photos of themselves, of their families? I certainly wouldn't jump to the conclusion that they're all hotbeds of sh*t talking, but maybe it's because I haven't been invited to one of those groups yet. And I don't care.

BIG. FREAKING. DITTO.

I joined the mommy group because I like knowing that if I have a question, or I want to share and vent (omg, Micah still won't STTN, ya'll), I can. And safely, without being picked at or having my personal info spread around.

I joined the original "bully" group because it had my friends in it, people I had become close to and I wanted to grow that friendship. It was NEVER a group strictly meant for bickering or blindsiding. It WAS a place where we could discuss anything that happened on the board, and what it meant.

And you know what? The MAJORITY of people have forgiven me my transgressions and they understand that sometimes, you get sucked into the hole and then you end up with your foot in your mouth. They have stood by me and have even defended me, and they understand that I am nothing but a human being with feelings just like everyone else, and sometimes those feelings go haywire.

Anyone that can't understand that, is worthless to me and is not even worthy of my notice. On FB, or not.

 

[Laila619]

My thoughts on Pricescope Facebookers (or non-FBs) Who've Dubbed Themselves The In-Crowd:

I truly cannot imagine why anyone over the age of 14 would feel it necessary to plot and plan behind the back of another poster, seek to humiliate or discredit them, or just get plain old nasty. WHY? If this makes someone feel special, then they need therapy. They truly must be a most miserable person to want to inflict misery on others.

Anyone who participates, even in silence, with that sort of behavior, is as bad as the ringleader. So please don't think you're above the fray; knowing about it and saying nothing is giving it your stamp of approval.

I can't think of anything more shameful than a group of grown women, or men, purposely choosing to be vindictive ***holes.

Kudos for screwing over others. You're so cool.


And yes, it does make a difference if it is happening. And yes, it is life. But let's not sweep it under the rug and say, "Oh, well. It happens. What are you going to do?"

How about we stop tolerating it?

Seriously. What are these "ladies" (and I use the term loosely), 13 years old?

 

[E B]

EB- I have. I have avoided any break off groups, whether on FB, or anywhere else because as T-gal said, you sometimes need to keep the internet at a distance. I just joined a new FB group that started but am not actively posting and I probably won't be a member for long. Just long enough so that a few of the PSers I am not already connected to in that way can find me, and I can find them. At that point, I'll drop out of the group and just keep in touch with people one on one. I can see myself joining a group made up of PS Crazy Cat Ladies though. Some group that has it's roots in a common interest, and is interested in supporting like minded people, or people in the same place in life. Where the goal is connection and support, not just gossipping about PS. So, no. I certainly don't think all the FB groups are PS terrorist cells. I know that there are parenting groups, and dog groups, and reading groups and decorating groups... whatever. But, MY point is, when you are a member of any group, you have to be careful to watch the group dynamic and if something is wonky, call it out, or leave, don't just go along with something out of a misplaced sense of loyalty .

I completely agree with you- it is important to keep an eye on the group dynamic. I guess my thinking is that in cases like these, ignorance truly is bliss. If there's a group of elite PSers I'm not invited to, or a group that makes talking behind others' backs its number one activity, I don't want to know about it. I certainly couldn't do anything about it, and it'd make me suspicious of people I like to talk to here, or people I have friended on Facebook. Will what I'm about to post be talked about over there? Who's a part of it? I'm much happier not knowing, and I think some things are better left unexposed as long as they aren't hurting anyone else. But I realize this is just my opinion, and others feel differently.

 

[kittybean]

I know that there are parenting groups, and dog groups, and reading groups and decorating groups... whatever.

Wow. I'm feeling a bit like a blissfully ignorant Pollyanna after reading all this! Just a couple days ago, I had no idea any special groups existed on Facebook, much less such a wealth of diverse interest groups. I have a Facebook account, but I mostly use it to communicate with people from my "real life." It's fun to get to know some of my fellow PS'ers a little better through FB, but I wish I hadn't opened or read some of these threads. With the sort of work I do, I'm very, very attuned to the malevolent tendencies humanity seems to always harbor. I naively thought that those tendencies were kept in check here (miraculously so!), which was one of the reasons I prefer(red?) this forum over any other I've encountered on the Internet.

Here's the thing: if you don't like bullying, don't associate with bullies. If you don't gossip, don't associate with gossips. This doesn't mean that you need to confront anyone about their behavior, but it does mean that if you don't like what the group is doing, remove yourself from that group. You know how we always admonish people to not feed the trolls? I think the same is true for bullies and malicious gossips. Unless you like the gossip and trash-talk, stop reading. Stop responding. Stop being complicit in spreading it, and you'll see how quickly it dies down . . . or you won't see, and you'll just be blissfully ignorant (like I'm going to go back to pretending I am).

Just like the rosy good ol' days of the past, the "old PS" won't return no matter how much anyone longs for it. People and the world are constantly and irrevocably changing, and in an age where I can send someone a message, have it travel to space and back, and have it in front of the recipient almost instantly, how can we expect that they won't change and change rapidly?

Anyway, back to Pollyanna-land I go.

ETA: EB, saw you were posting while I was writing--care to join me in Pollyanna-land? I'll make a Facebook group about it [wink].

 

[Gypsy]

You know what strikes me as hopelessly ironic? Monkey Pie, who was part of the bully group, brazenly admits to it with her own account on here and even says that people who don't forgive her can take a hike (her perogative not judging just paraphrasing). And not ONE of the people that DID stand up for what was the right thing and reported the bullying to PS to put a stop to it have stood up to say, You know what, I'm proud of being one of those who reported this behavior. I did the right thing. Like I said before, makes me wish I was one of these folks. And then we have Sad, who saw what happened, knew it was wrong and is now both ashamed of not stopping it, but feels disloyal about telling the truth about it, so she doesn't post under her real name.

Messed up man.

I agree. Let's go back to Polly Anna. I'm sorry I re-openned this can of worms-- I was only trying to warn folks that the FB goups aren't perfect either and used this as an example to illustrate. It has accomplished nothing positive and has now made great PSers like EB and Kittybean feel alienated. Mea FREAKING Culpa. Let's let sleeping dogs lie.

The Road To Hell is Paved with Good Intentions as they say. And boy... is that true.

 

[iheartscience]

Honestly, I don't know what is sadder...what sad posted, or that she did it.

So what have we all learned:

There are PSers on FB
There are mean PSers on FB
Some mean PSers are mean enough where they really don't give a crap about their actions
Some mean PSers don't think they're mean
If you say something of notice, PSers may talk about you behind your back
Women love to gossip
Women don't love to be gossiped about
This happened before facebook with PMs here
This happened with no PMs here
People like to feel part of a group
Group dynamics can be cruel
Pointing this all out doesn't change much for most people

This isn't just PS. It's what happens in LIFE. And life. moves. on.

*STANDING OVATION*

I'm still shocked that anyone is A. surprised and B. still cares so very much about something that happened a year ago on an internet forum. Was it pretty? Nope. But hey-see above.