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If your super ideal vendor were to offer you...

No, I would not trade in my earth-mined Super Ideals for a larger MM Super Ideal.

I would buy MM diamonds for variety but I would probably want them in different shapes besides RB (maybe oval,
cushion, H&A radiant, etc).
 
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Possibly
 
No
 
No
 
Hmm.... maybe?

If I owned a natural super ideal, and wanted to upgrade, and was offered the full trade in value for either natural or MMD, I'd likely go with whichever offered the combination of the 4 Cs I was looking for.

The situation where the initial natural diamond's trade in value being higher than the cost of the MMD you might be looking to buy kind of weirds me out a bit though. Would that force you in to the natural diamond territory because you have to spend more money to trade in, or cause you to chose a much larger MMD (or some combination of the 4 Cs being higher) than you initially wanted/desired due to the cost difference needing to be met?

Interesting thought exercise for sure.
 
Lol. No.
 
I am greatly enjoying this conversation. I only started selling the Lab Grown diamonds this week and am hoping to have them on our website by next week.

I cannot speak for other vendors, but we will not be offering upgrades of our wonderful CBIs for Lab Grown diamonds. They are, as many have said, two different markets.

I am proud to sell both of them, they are both great products that assist in celebrating some of life's milestone moments as well as bringing joy to the eye of the owner and the viewer. I do not desire to lessen either of them by trying to make them into a single market.
 
Wink said:
I am greatly enjoying this conversation. I only started selling the Lab Grown diamonds this week and am hoping to have them on our website by next week.

I cannot speak for other vendors, but we will not be offering upgrades of our wonderful CBIs for Lab Grown diamonds. They are, as many have said, two different markets.

I am proud to sell both of them, they are both great products that assist in celebrating some of life's milestone moments as well as bringing joy to the eye of the owner and the viewer. I do not desire to lessen either of them by trying to make them into a single market.
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Thank you for that, Wink!
 
Wink said:
I am greatly enjoying this conversation. I only started selling the Lab Grown diamonds this week and am hoping to have them on our website by next week.

I cannot speak for other vendors, but we will not be offering upgrades of our wonderful CBIs for Lab Grown diamonds. They are, as many have said, two different markets.

I am proud to sell both of them, they are both great products that assist in celebrating some of life's milestone moments as well as bringing joy to the eye of the owner and the viewer. I do not desire to lessen either of them by trying to make them into a single market.
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I enthusiastically look forward to watching those products hit the site!!
 
I would NOT trade in my natural diamond for a MMD of the same brand.

I have seen a video, the person said MMD haven't seen the test of time long enough. The person mentioned about how the MMD is created, the possibility of it breaking down. I don't know if that is true, but if I were to spend that much money, I would rather it to be a earth mined diamond.
 
rungirl said:
No. A big part of my fascination with diamonds (and gemstones in general) is that the earth produced them, over many years. MMD just doesn't hold that same fascination for me.
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Billions in fact. Some diamonds are almost as old as Earth itself!
 
I would emphatically NEVER want a lab diamond. I like diamonds because they are grown in the earth and its an amazing process. I dislike man-made and wouldn't wear a lab diamond it someone gave me a much better one for free. It's the principle.
 
uyalison said:
I would NOT trade in my natural diamond for a MMD of the same brand.

I have seen a video, the person said MMD haven't seen the test of time long enough. The person mentioned about how the MMD is created, the possibility of it breaking down. I don't know if that is true, but if I were to spend that much money, I would rather it to be a earth mined diamond.
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This is fearmongering at its worst. I’m sorry you ran into this “resource”. Please stick around PS instead! We may all have differing opinions sometimes but we do our best to keep facts facts.
 
No. Absolutely not. Nothing against lab grown diamonds (would wear them in a fashion piece like a bracelet). I just don't personally want one as my Main Diamond.

Is this logical? No. Do we wear jewellery because it's logical? Also no ;)2
 
I would echo those who say it would be ...weird for a vendor to proactively solicit trade ins.....

But as for the general trade in discussion......I feel a bit differently than WInk on this.
From my perspective: If a client of Natural Diamonds wants to trade up to a Lab grown, I see no reason why not ( as long as it meets our trade up policy)
Same for the other way around.
Wink said:
I do not desire to lessen either of them by trying to make them into a single market.
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Interesting perspective young man!!
Personally, I think it's a single market in many ways. If it's got our name on it ( be it LG or EM), we own it, and stand behind it forever.
Clearly, there's plenty of folks who see the interchangability differently.....
 
I would only do that if the value of the MMD greatly exceeded the mined one.

I love MMD but their value still fluctuates too much for that to work for me unless I was trading in like a 1ct for a 3ct or something.
 
uyalison said:
I would NOT trade in my natural diamond for a MMD of the same brand.

I have seen a video, the person said MMD haven't seen the test of time long enough. The person mentioned about how the MMD is created, the possibility of it breaking down. I don't know if that is true, but if I were to spend that much money, I would rather it to be a earth mined diamond.
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Physically no.

It’s not going to break down faster than a mined diamond, if it helps.

There’s a lot of false information out there (frequently from those selling only mined diamonds who stand to lose $$$ from people buying man made). They really only hurt their other (more valid) claims when they resort to spewing bunk like this.
 
Rockdiamond said:
Interesting perspective young man!!
Personally, I think it's a single market in many ways.
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David,

I sell Colored gems, primarily those cut by Richard Homer, but others as well. Are you going to tell me that is the same market as the diamonds I sell?

I sell world class custom made mountings and also, for those on a budget, Stuller settings. Do you think those are one market? Do you think they are one market with the diamonds and colored gems that I sell?

If so, you and I will never agree on what is a market. Standing behind the products does not make them one market in any way in my opinion.

Oh, and please, show some respect to your elders! :naughty:

Wink
 
I didn't want to call you "old man":) you're still a kid at heart....

There are many ways to look at "market"
To people who want to buy from Wink, you could easily say it is one market.
If Ms Smith bought a $10,000,000 setting but now wants a $100 setting for a CZ, in her mind, she's coming to Wink.
We have so many clients that have bought costly custom made pieces and come back for more "pedestrian" pieces to give as gifts ( for example).

Even though we're selling diamonds.....I do not consider us to be in the same market as those selling diamonds blind of database lists ( I'm sure you're with me in that)
So my perspective is that the "market" has as much to do with the seller as the product they are selling......
 
tyty333 said:
No, I would not trade in my earth-mined Super Ideals for a larger MM Super Ideal.

I would buy MM diamonds for variety but I would probably want them in different shapes besides RB (maybe oval,
cushion, H&A radiant, etc).
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this.
 
I would not trade-in my main e-ring diamond for a lab stone, no. I am at my maximum size for my local circle. I did think about getting larger lab stones for an extra pair of studs, but I just couldn't do it (prices not low enough to tempt me yet) and upgraded my WF ACAs again! I do feel like I have a lot of money on my ear lobes sometimes, though! I also have a second diamond ring that is an antique asscher. I wouldn't change that one for a modern lab stone, either. But aside from these three major (for me) pieces of jewelry, I might be open to lab stones for other projects if the prices came down a bit more. I do think lab stones are a great option for young couples who don't have a large budget for a ring and who want more than a half carat diamond. Other women might rather have a 3 ct lab stone versus a 1 ct natural diamond. I have zero problem with people making that choice.
 
diamondseeker2006 said:
I would not trade-in my main e-ring diamond for a lab stone, no. I am at my maximum size for my local circle. I did think about getting larger lab stones for an extra pair of studs, but I just couldn't do it (prices not low enough to tempt me yet) and upgraded my WF ACAs again! I do feel like I have a lot of money on my ear lobes sometimes, though! I also have a second diamond ring that is an antique asscher. I wouldn't change that one for a modern lab stone, either. But aside from these three major (for me) pieces of jewelry, I might be open to lab stones for other projects if the prices came down a bit more. I do think lab stones are a great option for young couples who don't have a large budget for a ring and who want more than a half carat diamond. Other women might rather have a 3 ct lab stone versus a 1 ct natural diamond. I have zero problem with people making that choice.
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I can understand the hesitancy to trade in earth-mined to MMD for your main e-ring or center stone, but your post just reminded me that I have a pair of BGD signature diamond studs J/VS 0.85 tcw that I never wore because they were too tinted IMO, and small compared to my e-ring upgrades through the years. Due to the affordability of MMD, I was able to buy 1.66 tcw G/VS JA super ideal MMD for roughly the same price as my BGD signature studs. Not only was I able to keep my BGD signature (which I gave to my daughter), I spent about the same $$$ for studs double the size and better color. I would be absolutely THRILLED if BGD started carrying MMD, so I can upgrade my daughter's earrings!

editing to add pictures of my earth mined and MMD mixed sets. The people who answered NO to this thread have probably never seen quality MMDs in person. I wear these sets with my solitaire pendant (earth mined) and MMD studs, and they are all equally loved and blingtastic.
 

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Dancing Fire said:
a trade in on your natural diamond for a MMD of the same brand...would you do it?

Would you go for a bigger, higher color, higher clarity MMD?
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Nope
 
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