Imitation

[coatimundi_org]

Date: 1/8/2009 8:01:36 PM
Author: Kaleigh

Date: 1/7/2009 7:20:05 PM

Author: Kaleigh

I did read some past posts. SG did recommend Ari at Singlestone to a a poster that was looking for a vintage ring. She also said in her post to the person seeking advice that if they don't have what you are looking for they can make it for you. They do great work....

So it's fine to do a reproduction of a ring, just so long as it isn't hers??


I am not meaning to open a can of worms, just thought it was interesting....

This post was missed. Can I quote myself?? LOL. But to me it's a good point.

A very good point!

I made a point that was missed(I thought it was good)--can I quote myself too? Or will that make me a copy cat!??

 

[musey]

Date: 1/8/2009 8:12:36 PM
Author: coatimundi

Date: 1/8/2009 8:01:36 PM
Author: Kaleigh

Date: 1/7/2009 7:20:05 PM
Author: Kaleigh
I did read some past posts. SG did recommend Ari at Singlestone to a a poster that was looking for a vintage ring. She also said in her post to the person seeking advice that if they don''t have what you are looking for they can make it for you. They do great work....

So it''s fine to do a reproduction of a ring, just so long as it isn''t hers??

I am not meaning to open a can of worms, just thought it was interesting....

This post was missed. Can I quote myself?? LOL. But to me it''s a good point.

A very good point!

I made a point that was missed(I thought it was good)--can I quote myself too? Or will that make me a copy cat!??

It happens to us all from time to time...

 

[Skippy123]

Date: 1/8/2009 8:12:36 PM
Author: coatimundi

Date: 1/8/2009 8:01:36 PM
Author: Kaleigh

Date: 1/7/2009 7:20:05 PM

Author: Kaleigh

I did read some past posts. SG did recommend Ari at Singlestone to a a poster that was looking for a vintage ring. She also said in her post to the person seeking advice that if they don''t have what you are looking for they can make it for you. They do great work....

So it''s fine to do a reproduction of a ring, just so long as it isn''t hers??


I am not meaning to open a can of worms, just thought it was interesting....

This post was missed. Can I quote myself?? LOL. But to me it''s a good point.

A very good point!

I made a point that was missed(I thought it was good)--can I quote myself too? Or will that make me a copy cat!??

LOL, quote your good point Coats. hehe

 

[Kaleigh]

Date: 1/8/2009 8:12:36 PM
Author: coatimundi

Date: 1/8/2009 8:01:36 PM
Author: Kaleigh

Date: 1/7/2009 7:20:05 PM

Author: Kaleigh

I did read some past posts. SG did recommend Ari at Singlestone to a a poster that was looking for a vintage ring. She also said in her post to the person seeking advice that if they don''t have what you are looking for they can make it for you. They do great work....

So it''s fine to do a reproduction of a ring, just so long as it isn''t hers??


I am not meaning to open a can of worms, just thought it was interesting....

This post was missed. Can I quote myself?? LOL. But to me it''s a good point.

A very good point!

I made a point that was missed(I thought it was good)--can I quote myself too? Or will that make me a copy cat!??

Please do, I want to read it!!!!

 

[coatimundi_org]

Date: 1/8/2009 6:48:53 PM
Author: coatimundi

Date: 1/8/2009 5:11:41 PM

Author: ringster

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3) There is a difference between being inspired by a ring and making an EXACT copy. The issue here was with EXACT copying SG's ring and not that the ring was inspired by SG's ring. Let's be clear here, PT's ring is an EXACT copy of SG's ring and not an inspiration ring.

I disagree about it being an EXACT copy. SG's ring has a transitional cut stone. PT's is OEC. The center stones are also different sizes which creates different proportions. If you look at the pieces with the scrutiny of the average PS'er, the differences are there.


As I wrote earlier, some ps'ers/lurkers are in the process of making 'my' one-of-a-kind ring, and it doesn't hurt my ego one bit, because that's what this is about, after all...ego.


Since we haven't heard from SG, it's all conjecture anyway. Do we know that Ari didn't contact her?


I'm beyond disappointed in the criticism of Ari. There are 2 sides to every story.

Here it is! hahahaha

Thank you Kaleigh and Skippy!

 

[Skippy123]

Date: 1/8/2009 7:51:10 PM
Author: coatimundi

Date: 1/8/2009 7:42:24 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
I imagine there are quite a few of us with pictures of SG''s ring saved in our computers. I have a folder with rings and settings I either really like or often recommend to people interested in a certain kind of setting.

I have a folder too...

I think a lot of us have folders of our favorite rings.

 

[Allison D.]

Date: 1/8/2009 8:01:36 PM
Author: Kaleigh

Date: 1/7/2009 7:20:05 PM
Author: Kaleigh
I did read some past posts. SG did recommend Ari at Singlestone to a a poster that was looking for a vintage ring. She also said in her post to the person seeking advice that if they don''t have what you are looking for they can make it for you. They do great work....
So it''s fine to do a reproduction of a ring, just so long as it isn''t hers??

I am not meaning to open a can of worms, just thought it was interesting....

This post was missed. Can I quote myself?? LOL. But to me it''s a good point.

It wasn''t missed; I had noticed the same thing myself earlier that day but hadn''t said anything. You made the post later in the evening, and I think it was largely missed. That''s why I mentioned it in my last post.

You are right - Parrot took the photos to SS, most likely because several posters here have recommended SS for months to make antique reproductions. In fact, SG herself made this very same recommendation herself less than two weeks ago to another PSer who said she wanted to reproduce the ring of *her* dreams which was no longer available. (Sound familiar?) https://www.pricescope.com/communit...tion-recommendations-in-new-york-city.103296/. So, is it only ok to reproduce rings as long as they aren''t hers?

 

[Skippy123]

Date: 1/8/2009 8:19:21 PM
Author: coatimundi

Date: 1/8/2009 6:48:53 PM
Author: coatimundi

Date: 1/8/2009 5:11:41 PM

Author: ringster

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3) There is a difference between being inspired by a ring and making an EXACT copy. The issue here was with EXACT copying SG''s ring and not that the ring was inspired by SG''s ring. Let''s be clear here, PT''s ring is an EXACT copy of SG''s ring and not an inspiration ring.

I disagree about it being an EXACT copy. SG''s ring has a transitional cut stone. PT''s is OEC. The center stones are also different sizes which creates different proportions. If you look at the pieces with the scrutiny of the average PS''er, the differences are there.


As I wrote earlier, some ps''ers/lurkers are in the process of making ''my'' one-of-a-kind ring, and it doesn''t hurt my ego one bit, because that''s what this is about, after all...ego.


Since we haven''t heard from SG, it''s all conjecture anyway. Do we know that Ari didn''t contact her?


I''m beyond disappointed in the criticism of Ari. There are 2 sides to every story.

Here it is! hahahaha

Thank you Kaleigh and Skippy!

Very True; I kept thinking hers was a transitional cut and they are different sizes of stones, etc.

 

[coatimundi_org]

This thread moves fast!

 

[Harriet]

I have created a beast.

 

[Kaleigh]

Date: 1/8/2009 8:23:24 PM
Author: Harriet
I have created a beast.

Nope, we are having good discussions. I am learning a lot.

 

[coatimundi_org]

Date: 1/8/2009 8:34:06 PM
Author: Kaleigh

Date: 1/8/2009 8:23:24 PM

Author: Harriet

I have created a beast.

Nope, we are having good discussions. I am learning a lot.

I''m learning a lot too. Really been thinking about why this sort of thing bothers folks. I think that we are all inherently territorial, but it''s interesting to me that someone would want to claim ownership of someone else''s intellectual property. I understand being territorial about your own work, but not found objects--to me, that''s all ego.

 

[canuk-gal]

HI:

What an enormous relief that I should never have to worry that anyone would want to copy my cartoonishy large (barf) radiant (double barf) ring. Whew!

.

cheers--Sharon

 

[iheartscience]

Date: 1/8/2009 9:16:05 PM
Author: canuk-gal
HI:

What an enormous relief that I should never have to worry that anyone would want to copy my cartoonishy large (barf) radiant (double barf) ring. Whew!

.

cheers--Sharon

Ha! You know I''d copy that cartoonishly large ring of yours in a heartbeat! Your diamond is my radiant''s (triple barf?) big sis!

 

[Deelight]

Date: 1/8/2009 8:19:34 PM
Author: Skippy123

Date: 1/8/2009 7:51:10 PM

Author: coatimundi

Date: 1/8/2009 7:42:24 PM

Author: diamondseeker2006

I imagine there are quite a few of us with pictures of SG's ring saved in our computers. I have a folder with rings and settings I either really like or often recommend to people interested in a certain kind of setting.

I have a folder too...

I think a lot of us have folders of our favorite rings.

I don't have a folder, does this mean I have to revoke my membership?

 

[AGBF]

Date: 1/8/2009 9:27:02 PM
Author: Deelight


I don''t have a folder, does this mean I have to revoke my membership?

You''re out.



Deb

 

[Elmorton]

Haha, Deelight, I was thinking the same thing...

 

[coatimundi_org]

Date: 1/8/2009 9:24:49 PM
Author: thing2of2

Date: 1/8/2009 9:16:05 PM

Author: canuk-gal

HI:


What an enormous relief that I should never have to worry that anyone would want to copy my cartoonishy large (barf) radiant (double barf) ring. Whew!

.


cheers--Sharon

Ha! You know I''d copy that cartoonishly large ring of yours in a heartbeat! Your diamond is my radiant''s (triple barf?) big sis!

Barfy McBarf--give them to me! Both of yous!

 

[PrettyBlues]

Date: 1/8/2009 8:45:01 PM
Author: coatimundi

Date: 1/8/2009 8:34:06 PM

Author: Kaleigh

Date: 1/8/2009 8:23:24 PM


Author: Harriet


I have created a beast.

Nope, we are having good discussions. I am learning a lot.

I'm learning a lot too. Really been thinking about why this sort of thing bothers folks. I think that we are all inherently territorial, but it's interesting to me that someone would want to claim ownership of someone else's intellectual property. I understand being territorial about your own work, but not found objects--to me, that's all ego.

I am learning a lot as well. Coati I think your thoughts are quite interesting on why we feel territorial about others work/ideas/designs. Why should I get to wear someone else's creation, but then feel that no one else has the right to?

 

[canuk-gal]

Date: 1/8/2009 9:33:49 PM
Author: PrettyBlues

Date: 1/8/2009 8:45:01 PM
Author: coatimundi

Date: 1/8/2009 8:34:06 PM

Author: Kaleigh

Date: 1/8/2009 8:23:24 PM


Author: Harriet


I have created a beast.

Nope, we are having good discussions. I am learning a lot.

I''m learning a lot too. Really been thinking about why this sort of thing bothers folks. I think that we are all inherently territorial, but it''s interesting to me that someone would want to claim ownership of someone else''s intellectual property. I understand being territorial about your own work, but not found objects--to me, that''s all ego.

I am learning a lot as well. Coati I think your thoughts are quite interesting on why we feel territorial about others work/ideas/designs. Why should I get to wear someone else''s creation, but then feel that no one else has the right to?

HI:

Oh I don''t know. Entitlement. Arrogance. All human and all forgiveable.

P.S. Coati--get your own barfer....

cheers--Sharon

 

[Deelight]

Date: 1/8/2009 9:29:00 PM
Author: AGBF

Date: 1/8/2009 9:27:02 PM

Author: Deelight



I don''t have a folder, does this mean I have to revoke my membership?

You''re out.




Deb

Date: 1/8/2009 9:29:20 PM
Author: Elmorton
Haha, Deelight, I was thinking the same thing...

Elmorton we might have to go start our own folderless site LOL

 

[AGBF]

Date: 1/8/2009 7:18:51 PM
Author: TravelingGal

If someone would copy my ring, I'd feel better. I need an ego stroke. *sniff*

Where is your ring? If you post a picture of it here, maybe I can copy it. I just realized that I don't know if I've ever seen it. Maybe I would have wanted to copy it years ago.


Deborah

 

[coatimundi_org]

Date: 1/8/2009 9:33:49 PM
Author: PrettyBlues

Date: 1/8/2009 8:45:01 PM

Author: coatimundi

Date: 1/8/2009 8:34:06 PM


Author: Kaleigh

Date: 1/8/2009 8:23:24 PM



Author: Harriet



I have created a beast.

Nope, we are having good discussions. I am learning a lot.

I'm learning a lot too. Really been thinking about why this sort of thing bothers folks. I think that we are all inherently territorial, but it's interesting to me that someone would want to claim ownership of someone else's intellectual property. I understand being territorial about your own work, but not found objects--to me, that's all ego.

I am learning a lot as well. Coati I think your thoughts are quite interesting on why we feel territorial about others work/ideas/designs. Why should I get to wear someone else's creation, but then feel that no one else has the right to?

Thanks--It's really stimulating me at the moment. I think some are more competitive than others. Just generally, I feel that some crave notoriety and don't want to share. I create art with my husband, and I'm very territorial about our work--I've registered work, copyrighted etc., but it's my property. I don't claim other's work as mine. Honestly, this reminds me of 5th grade, when a girl got the first pair of "Guess" jeans, and sulked for days when the rest of us emerged in them. A wedding ring has sentimental value, but really in the end it's just a symbol. What does one ring have to do with another's feelings? Especially when they had no part in the design? I just don't get it.

 

[TravelingGal]

Date: 1/8/2009 9:48:31 PM
Author: AGBF

Date: 1/8/2009 7:18:51 PM
Author: TravelingGal

If someone would copy my ring, I''d feel better. I need an ego stroke. *sniff*

Where is your ring? If you post a picture of it here, maybe I can copy it. I just realized that I don''t know if I''ve ever seen it. Maybe I would have wanted to copy it years ago.


Deborah

It''s somewhere here...I''ll try and find it later. And for PS, it is unique in that I don''t think anyone who is still around has it (there may have been one or two people who were interested but not sure if they bought it.) And there is a reason for that...it''s way too modern, thick, and boring for most people''s tastes on here...which shows good taste, hehehe. It''s a Jeff Cooper setting. No nonsense lines, very practical and very me.

 

[coatimundi_org]

Date: 1/8/2009 9:37:41 PM
Author: canuk-gal

P.S. Coati--get your own barfer....

cheers--Sharon

Barf ON dude!!

 

[coatimundi_org]

Date: 1/8/2009 9:48:31 PM
Author: AGBF

Date: 1/8/2009 7:18:51 PM

Author: TravelingGal


If someone would copy my ring, I''d feel better. I need an ego stroke. *sniff*

Where is your ring? If you post a picture of it here, maybe I can copy it. I just realized that I don''t know if I''ve ever seen it. Maybe I would have wanted to copy it years ago.



Deborah

Post a pic--I want yours too TGal!

 

[PrettyBlues]

I love your ring Tgal - maybe I should copy it!

ETA: In all seriousness, I actually DID want a Jeff Cooper ring, before I found Pricescope and when I thought I wanted a princess cut. But it is a different setting from what you have, and not what I would choose now. I guess you have better taste than I do

because I would definitely wear yours, but not what I had picked.

 

[LaurenThePartier]

Wow, you have 2 days worth of sales meetings, and 16 page threads start spewing out of Hangout!

I have to say, that my husband designed my ring without perusing many of the pics here on Pricescope - he just knew bezel, Asscher . . . pipe cut band. That's pretty much all he had to go on, and I ended up with my ring, that I find original, but hey, it's not like it's the first bezel set solitaire Asscher on the internets.

I'm sure he drew inspiration from diamond halo'd Asschers all over PS like Lovey's, and the bezel set Lucida I probably showed him over our years together, and if our lovely PSers had never posted their lovely rings, I might not have the beautiful creation I wear on my hand. I love to hear when people drew inspiration from my ring! But, if I have to face facts, it's not a truly original setting - I've seen bezeled diamonds for decades, though never saw the double halo or the bevel in the bezel before. . .

Either way, I hope SG comes back. I'd hate to lose such a wonderful PSer.

 

[TravelingGal]

It''s in the bezelicious thread...I think the original post when I got the ring was really bad as far as photos go so the best photos are in the earring thread. Like I said, it''s a masculine ring. That''s why I love yours Coati...practical, yet FEMININE.

I''d say sorry for the threadjack, but this thread is already a way lost cause.

 

[geckodani]

Date: 1/8/2009 9:53:31 PM
Author: TravelingGal

Date: 1/8/2009 9:48:31 PM
Author: AGBF

Date: 1/8/2009 7:18:51 PM
Author: TravelingGal

If someone would copy my ring, I'd feel better. I need an ego stroke. *sniff*

Where is your ring? If you post a picture of it here, maybe I can copy it. I just realized that I don't know if I've ever seen it. Maybe I would have wanted to copy it years ago.


Deborah

It's somewhere here...I'll try and find it later. And for PS, it is unique in that I don't think anyone who is still around has it (there may have been one or two people who were interested but not sure if they bought it.) And there is a reason for that...it's way too modern, thick, and boring for most people's tastes on here...which shows good taste, hehehe. It's a Jeff Cooper setting. No nonsense lines, very practical and very me.

Here it is.... and I think it's FABULOUS! So there.

ETA: May I just pluck those bezel studs right out of the picture and run away with them? Please?