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Is a "K" color Asscher with a great cut too yellow?

jstormy

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I have read that one should buy an H or higher with an asscher. Does it really make that much difference. What about a J?
The stone will be set on platinum solitaire. What do you guys think?
 
jstormy|1377192188|3508095 said:
I have read that one should buy an H or higher with an asscher. Does it really make that much difference. What about a J?
The stone will be set on platinum solitaire. What do you guys think?

A J or K would be too tinted for me, but it depends on what your color tolerance is and what is acceptable to you... I agree that I wouldn't go below H for that particular cut -- and preferably G or better. (...and this is coming from someone who owns a MRB in a J, so I'm not all that color sensitive)
 
Can you link to the stone? I feel like with steps cuts sometimes you can get away with it a bit more. However if you set it in PLAT there will probably be contrast. Still I would be curious to see it.
 
Have you seen this color/cut combo in real life? If not, then I'd do that first to better guage your feelings about it -- since it's really a personal preference. :))
 
Rounds tend to not show body colour as much or as easily as other shapes, so a person might not mind a J MRB but will be bothered by a J asscher cut. Tolerance for lower colour will vary by person, even if he or she is able to see the difference. There's no way around it - you have to see one in person to decide where you stand on this.

I noted that in your other thread you were considering an asscher or two but made no mention about the cut. What is your / the definition of a great cut? Excellent polish and symmetry do not denote the quality of the cut even though there is a minor correlation.
 
SB621|1377192618|3508102 said:
Can you link to the stone? I feel like with steps cuts sometimes you can get away with it a bit more. However if you set it in PLAT there will probably be contrast. Still I would be curious to see it.

This was a lot of my concern... but, like SB, I'd love to see it. ;))
 
I've seen a K asscher in person ... and it was too tinted for me. (The stone even had a ton of blue flour - which masked *some* of the color.)

An asscher is like water. If there's any hint of tint -- it shows. Don't drink the yellow water. :naughty:
 
My experience is that each K color has it's own personality.
Especially with a cut like an Asscher, variation in step placement, width, and corner size has an effect on whether or not the stone shows color. Not all K colors show color equally. Sometimes very little perceptible tint, other times very easily seen color..
Also, a stone of K color may have other than a yellow- even though GIA sometimes notes a stone having brown, sometimes they don't.
The net result is that visual inspection is a must to see if the stone shows color.
Sometimes photos can tell the story- sometimes not.
 
decodelighted|1377193878|3508119 said:
I've seen a K asscher in person ... and it was too tinted for me. (The stone even had a ton of blue flour - which masked *some* of the color.)

An asscher is like water. If there's any hint of tint -- it shows. Don't drink the yellow water. :naughty:

HA! I couldn't resist commenting!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Having seen a k color emerald cut with no fluorescence in person I can say that I did not notice much of a tint for the most part. In pictures with certain lighting the warmth of the stone is more prominent than in real life. Additionally the stone was in a white metal holder and did not contrast all that much in my eyes (actually if I end up choosing this stone for my e-ring I will be setting it in platinum as well).If the stone is well cut and has everything else going for it as far as whatever your criteria is I wouldn't discount it just because of the color IMO. Then again I'm not that color sensitive so if you are that could factor in whether it is tolerable to you personally. Best of luck on your decision! :wavey:

Also if you want to see my K color EC pictures heres a link to my thread if it helps you:https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/proud-to-present-my-new-ec-beauty.191080/
 
I know this is a terribly frustrating answer but you'll really have to see it in person to determine if it is too yellow for you or not.
 
You will see color in a K. That only means that your eyes work. Whether you are bothered by it or feel it is too tinted is your personal preference. I know of two PSers that have GORGEOUS K emerald cuts: Asscher_Girl and Woofmomma. A Generic asscher is a square emerald cut. Both stones are gorgeous. They do have their own personalities, but that can be a very good thing, as long as you are open to it.
 
I think the color will certainly be detectable especially set in platinum and in an AS cut. But, who knows, you may like it well enough regardless.
 
People do not vary.
A K asscher will be 'too yellow', Period!
(Don't you just love when people say, 'Period'?)

If you don't find it too yellow you are broken and should be jettisoned into outer space.
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This post is humor. :mrgreen:
 
If I had any concerns I would have the stone shipped to me and look at it in all kinds of light before I had it set. Also, the larger the stone the more you will "see" color. Only you can decide how much you want to see.
 
Is this for yourself or is it an engagement ring you are buying for someone else? If you are buying an engagement ring, I advise sticking with H or above. I have a one carat asscher in a platinum right hand ring, and I can see a little tint in the H. So I just never recommend going below I or J for an engagement ring, and in an asscher, I think H and up is the safe zone.

If it is for yourself, you'd have to order one to look at. But I don't think I'd go below H or maybe I color, personally. I will add, though that I saw about a 5-6 ct emerald cut recently that was GIA J color and I could have handled that one, I think. ;))
 
You will notice a bit of warmth with a K. Only you can tell if you like it or not. Mid to lower coloured asschers look really cool in Vintage/Antique style settings, but it's really up to your own eyes to determine what look you are going for.
 
I think the K/L colors in step cuts are beautiful, intriguing, and give the stone an antique look. Asscherhalolover has an L Asscher set in a halo. It's one of my favorite rings. Good Old Gold had a K emerald cut that I was tempted to buy but someone beat me to it. It's all personal preference. DBL/RockDiamond has some photos posted online.
 
for me? no! I actually prefer them in that range! i think they are so romantic!

Will the person wearing the ring thing that? who knows, but i absolutely agree its worth seeing in person. One trip out to a reputable jewelry store that sells GIA cert'ed stones could save you THOUSANDS in unnecessary color grades. :wink2:

here are just a few of my favs

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My engagement ring is an M colored antique square emerald/asscher set in an antique repro setting. I love it and the different colors it gives off. It definitely has a personality! But as others have said, it may bother some people.
 
This forum is a great example of "double edge sword"
Many people are advised by jewelers that you"need" to stick with H or above- they might say that lower colors are seen as "undesirable".
In the case of a seller of diamonds promoting higher colors, we can easily call their motivation into question. Higher colors , after all, cost more.
But if we're talking about the well meaning, well diamond educated non trade members of PS, I've learned over the years that prime motivation is generally benevolent- they want to help.

Statements like- "you'll definitely see color in a K" are likely made because a given individual genuinely feels that way for themselves- and that type of motivation is a part of what will keep bringing new people here to learn
At the same time, it's also possible that such advice will hurt people looking by leading them to spend more for color than they need to.

As I wrote earlier- not all K colors show color the same way- and even more so, not all eyeballs perceive color the same way.
I loved Kenny's tongue in cheek post in this thread.
To answer the OP's question:
A K color Asscher with a great cut is not too yellow






or it is.
 
Rockdiamond|1377219507|3508338 said:
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A K color Asscher with a great cut is not too yellow






or it is.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I think its important to remember there's lots of shades between white and yellow. Maybe its bone, or eggshell, or ecru. Maybe you like those colors more than stark white. I don't know you, but I know I do.
 
Is Hugh Jackman too handsome?

Is the grand canyon too big?

Is pizza too delicious?

Only you can answer these questions, and there is no right or wrong. Same for diamond color. There is no "too" in diamond color. Its just your own esthetic preference.
 
To bring another aspect into K colors. What about K colored Asscers that are too brown? :naughty:
 
I went from a 1.54 ct asscher that was an H (GIA) to a 2.52 EC that is a K (GIA). However my appraiser thinks the GIA grader was having a bad day, lol. She really thought it should have been a J. I do see warmth every now and then but I don't mid it at all. Also, my stone is an antique (early 1900's) set in a vintage repro setting so the warmth plays well with the vintage look.
 
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