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Well I''''m looking for dimonds and settings for my engagment ring and found this dimond it is 1.01 carts, cut vary good , Radiant, clarity is IF, color is J, polish vary good, symmatrey good, Gia certified, depth 79.4, table 72, no fluoressence, measuments 5.56 x 5.30 x 4.21, girdle stk-vtk, cutlet none, ratio 1.05 for $2,900 dollers. Is this a good deal and a nice dimond I''''m picky but don''''t know alot about dimonds .

Thanks
Brandy
 
Er.... where did you find this?
 
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I am no expert on Radiants, Coda 72 is good with them and she might see this thread tomorrow, but at first glance it looks extremely deep....also Radiants and other fancy shapes are said to show more colour than a round, with this being a J would that be a concern for you? Also is the IF clarity important to you? You could go a lot lower in clarity and still have a clean diamond. The price looks very cheap too, it's hard to say if it is a deal or not. My best advice is to not rush into this, read the tutorials and if it is a Radiant you want, look at the recommended proportions charts you will find under knowledge and look online and compare and try to find the best cut Radiant you can. Is this with a jeweller? I wouldn't rush into purchasing this diamond, read up and compare and learn what to look for, it is easy to buy in haste and regret it. Also fancy shapes are best evaluated by the eyes and what you think is beautiful, but the numbers will give you a starting point. Hope this helps.

I just did a quick search and lower clarity VS J colour Radiants are about $3,500 thereabouts so for an IF to be so cheap would make me wonder....Is this a genuine GIA lab certed diamond or is it certified by a GIA gemologist? There is a difference here. I would pass on this diamond, plenty more out there and as you say you are picky and rightly so, I would hate for you to be disappointed. Is this diamond being sold at an online auction?
 
Date: 3/20/2006 3:49:29 PM
Author: Lorelei
I just did a quick search and lower clarity VS J colour Radiants are about $3,500 thereabouts so for an IF to be so cheap would make me wonder....Is this a genuine GIA lab certed diamond or is it certified by a GIA gemologist? There is a difference here. I would pass on this diamond, plenty more out there and as you say you are picky and rightly so, I would hate for you to be disappointed. Is this diamond being sold at an online auction?
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Yeah, I gotta say... the word eBay came to mind.
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It's too deep, and the table to too large. I think the optimum depth is early/mid 60s.
 
This is what I found in Pricescope on Radiant and Emerald Cut proportions:

Emerald and Radiant diamonds

ETA: I say you should start reading a lot of tutorials and stuff on this site before making such a big purchase.
 
Date: 3/20/2006 5:15:25 PM
Author: Wren


Date: 3/20/2006 3:49:29 PM
Author: Lorelei
I just did a quick search and lower clarity VS J colour Radiants are about $3,500 thereabouts so for an IF to be so cheap would make me wonder....Is this a genuine GIA lab certed diamond or is it certified by a GIA gemologist? There is a difference here. I would pass on this diamond, plenty more out there and as you say you are picky and rightly so, I would hate for you to be disappointed. Is this diamond being sold at an online auction?
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Yeah, I gotta say... the word eBay came to mind.
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Me too Wren!
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Great minds think alike!
 
For a 1 carat diamond to be so cheap means that the color and/or clarity grading is off (if no GIA report) or that the stone is poorly cut. From the numbers, it certainly looks as if the stone is very poorly cut with almost an 80% depth. This diamond will appear much smaller than it should for its weight. I''d pass on this one and find another.
 
well sense I posted this I have been reading alot about all diamonds. I Thought it sound to deep but wanted to get more input befor I dissmissed it. I would never buy something so important on ebay
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. I had been searching for days trying to find somthing we have kids so we are on a tight buget I was at the point of loseing my mind
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. Then I found this site called EngagementRingsDirect.com
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and I found a setting that I loved and cheap diamonds that are gIA lab certified at great prices. All the sites I had been on I have not seen an IF for that kind of price I was like haha I found one
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. I want nothing under VVS2 and no color under J and anything over .70 carts. my buget is about 5,000 but my setting is 1,800 so that leaves me 3,200 for a diamond.
 
I''ve only seen one ring from EngagementRingsDirect.com., and the stone looked like frozen spit. Honest, it was the cloudiest, poorest cut stone I''ve ever seen on an engagement ring. The price for that stone you''ve quoted is a bit too low. There are good deals to be had through the internet, but be VERY suspicious of a stone that appears simply too good to be true. It likely is too good to be true. If you do purchase this stone, make sure they have a really good return policy. Only pay with a credit card you can dispute if you need to.

Be careful here and don''t make a purchase you might regret and have a hard time getting out of.

Good luck........
 
why vvs2 clarity? have you considered the vs range? I have a vs1 and it is loupe clean. I cant find the inclusions.
A J in a radiant will show color, I believe. Radiant cuts concentrate color, just like well cut round brilliants mask color.
 
well befor I started looking online we went to many jewlers to see diamonds and all the vs diamonds that I looked at I could see Little nicks in and on the diamond and we went to vary upscale places in are area the VS1 was better but that would be the lowest I might go. Also my fience has been engaged befor and he said he wanted my ring to be better than the last and hers was a VS so that doesn''t leave me much room. I was willing to go to a VS2 but he said no so I''m stuck. I still dont know what shape I want at first I wanted a princess cut but then I''ve seen all the other simaller shapes that look nice. I never relized how hard this was untill I started looking.

Thanks,
Brandy
 
 
Date: 3/26/2006 10:33:36 PM
Author: Rod
I''ve only seen one ring from EngagementRingsDirect.com., and the stone looked like frozen spit. Honest, it was the cloudiest, poorest cut stone I''ve ever seen on an engagement ring. The price for that stone you''ve quoted is a bit too low. There are good deals to be had through the internet, but be VERY suspicious of a stone that appears simply too good to be true. It likely is too good to be true. If you do purchase this stone, make sure they have a really good return policy. Only pay with a credit card you can dispute if you need to.

Be careful here and don''t make a purchase you might regret and have a hard time getting out of.

Good luck........
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Rod,

You must be thinking of someone else. ERD, and Mark Turnowski are well-respected here.

For example, Reena''s fabulous cushion: https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/you-can-call-me-reeyonce.21349/

And moremoremore''s ring: https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-three-stone-cushion-is-here.22964/

Just wanted to put that out there
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Date: 3/27/2006 1:32:03 PM
Author: icekid

Date: 3/26/2006 10:33:36 PM
Author: Rod
I''ve only seen one ring from EngagementRingsDirect.com., and the stone looked like frozen spit. Honest, it was the cloudiest, poorest cut stone I''ve ever seen on an engagement ring. The price for that stone you''ve quoted is a bit too low. There are good deals to be had through the internet, but be VERY suspicious of a stone that appears simply too good to be true. It likely is too good to be true. If you do purchase this stone, make sure they have a really good return policy. Only pay with a credit card you can dispute if you need to.

Be careful here and don''t make a purchase you might regret and have a hard time getting out of.

Good luck........
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Rod,

You must be thinking of someone else. ERD, and Mark Turnowski are well-respected here.

For example, Reena''s fabulous cushion: https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/you-can-call-me-reeyonce.21349/

And moremoremore''s ring: https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-three-stone-cushion-is-here.22964/

Just wanted to put that out there
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You certainly could be and likely are right. If they are well respected there''s no way they could have sold a stone of such inferior quality. I thought that''s the name this person said, but it has been weeks since I saw her and I must have gotten the name mixed up with another vendor.

I certainly would not want to malign a well respected vendor.

Thanks........
 
"Frozen spit" is a real great description for a diamond lacking sheen and sparkle. I''m gonna remember that!
 
I have a very eye-clean SI1. Just letting you know that it is possible to have eye-clean stones that are graded as slightly included, and it might save you a little money. The only thing is, you'd have to see the stone in person to know if it will really be eye-clean or not.
 
Date: 3/27/2006 9:18:22 PM
Author: pinkflamingo

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this one?
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I thought the OP was looking for a radiant, not a round.
 
Brandy, whatever shape you choose and it is a Radiant right? You need to make cut quality the best you can get, it is this that makes a diamond beautiful and be " better" rather than colour and clarity, although these play a part, you could drop the clarity to a clean SI grade and with a great cut and good colour have a diamond that will blow your socks off! Now, cut quality in Radiants can be tricky, Coda can recommend some charts you can study to determine the best proportions for a Radiant ( I am sure she will point you in the right direction) this will give you a start, then once you have narrowed down, see what your eyes tell you if possible. Radiants if well cut can be a beautiful diamond, it is this you need to concentrate on to find the diamond of your dreams.

Buying a great diamond isn't easy and can take research and time, but it is time well spent when you find the right one!
 
Date: 3/27/2006 12:04:24 PM
Author: lostindimonds
I still dont know what shape I want
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My interpretation was that she is still undecided especially with the wide variety of shapes, and she happened to find a very extremely "discounted" radiant, but was choosing it because it was IF in her price range for over a carat, not because it was a radiant per se. Brandy, correct me if my assessment was incorrect.
 
I see what you mean PF, if she wanted a round that would be much easier!
 
Date: 3/27/2006 12:04:24 PM
Author: lostindimonds
I still dont know what shape I want at first I wanted a princess cut but then I''ve seen all the other simaller shapes that look nice.

Thanks,
Brandy
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Well, since she said she liked princess cuts and similar, I guess I thought a round was out of the running. Furthermore, ideal cut rounds are pricier than radiants and probably princess cuts.
 
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