Is this a pad?

[SweetAsscher]

I've been reading as much as I can about padparadscha, but I just can't seem to figure out what color really constitutes being called 'padparadscha'.
This stone belongs to a good friend of mine. She purchased a bunch of untreated stones from a vendor and she liked this one the best so sent the others back.
She let me borrow this one to play with and see if I like it enough to warrant a search for my own.
It was soooo difficult to photograph. The color just doesn't want to come up on the camera and as a result it looks washed out in some pictures. It's a peachy pink, in some lights more peach than pink and in other environments it looks more pink. The photos I selected were the most representative of the color, fairly accurate although more saturated in person
What do you guys think?

 

[SweetAsscher]

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[minousbijoux]

A couple of thoughts for you. Since padparadschas command a premium and dealers know this, most dealers for significant stones send them out to a lab prior to selling so that they can have the official report that states it as such. If it doesn't have a report, it doesn't mean its not a pad, just that you need to give it good, hard scrutiny. There is a thread on the definition of padparadscha that I started a while ago - I can see if I can find it - which I thought was interesting because it showed that even the experts from the various labs/organizations in the various countries making up the LMHC (Laboratory Manual Harmonisation Committee) members don't even agree on the definition.

So a couple of things - your stone could be a pale pad, but its hard to tell from the photos. Peach color often implies brown and any brown in the stone will kick it out of contention. I know we all talk about brown being a lack of saturation, but this stone is very light in tone, which means extremely strong saturation is difficult or impossible to achieve anyway. So the two colors it must have, and only these colors, are pink and orange. IMO, it doesn't matter whether its pinky orange or orangey pink, as long as it has both. There is also discussion of zoning and whether its still considered a pad if it has layers of orange and layers of pink coloration, but in this case that doesn't appear to apply. I would suggest though, that any stone that is close to being considered a pad now, should be held onto, just because the experts are having a hard time agreeing on what constitutes a pad and there is some conjecture the definition will be broadened in the future. Now I'll go look for that thread.

 

[minousbijoux]

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[minousbijoux]

SA: I also thought you'd find this thread appropriate and very interesting. A while ago, one of our members was looking for a pink stone. Our knowledgeable TL found her a great stone from Jason Brim and recommended she purchase it. She did, and the rest of the story speaks for itself. I sure wish TL would find me stones like that!

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/forum/colored-stones/just-got-great-news-t162354.html']https://www.pricescope.com/forum/colored-stones/just-got-great-news-t162354.html[/URL]

 

[SweetAsscher]

Wow thank you so much for all the info!
Ill certainly read those threads

 

[SweetAsscher]

Yea there might be some brown in there. Here is a blurry picture but it shows the color better

 

[chrono]

She must have a hefty account if she is able to purchase "a bunch of untreated padparadschas" to view in person, then send the rest back. I don't think any of us will try to guess whether this one falls into the padparadscha category because we aren't sure about the colour accuracy and even slight nuances of colour matters. Do be mindful that unheated ones will be very expensive and the market has many synthetic and diffused peachy sapphires.