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Just take a poll Oval 3.17 I VS2 or 5.17 K SI2

Would you rather have an Oval 3.17 I color VS2 or 5.17 K color SI2

  • Oval 3.17 I VS2

    Votes: 87 94.6%
  • Oval 5.17 K SI2

    Votes: 5 5.4%

  • Total voters
    92

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Please indulge me Boss is about to buy girlfriend Oval ring he said would I prefer 3.17 I VS2 or 5.12 K SI2


no stats no judgement just your choice
 
I think for someone I didn't know the 3ct seems like the safer option. In terms of colour if she's colour sensitive and also a rock at that the 5ct size might show more colour and also have visible inclusions being an SI2.
 
Were It not for the SI2 clarity, I would choose K (assuming girlfriend is not color sensitive). So in this instance, the 3.17 I VS2 would be his best bet.
 
Theres literally no way to answer this without more info

It is does size or quality matter. That's what I'm getting at. Do you want a big honker or a pretty big honker with higher color and better clarity

The purchaser doesn't give a hoot about cut Just presence... Does that help?
 
It is does size or quality matter. That's what I'm getting at. Do you want a big honker or a pretty big honker with higher color and better clarity

The purchaser doesn't give a hoot about cut Just presence... Does that help?

Lol well for me I'm not colour sensitive and don't have eagle eyes so I'll trade off and get the size over quality. But I'm not sure what your boss's partner is like as we're all different with different preferences.

Also it depends on the stone too. :)
 
In an oval, and assuming all else is equal, I'd go with the 3.17 I VS2.

An SI2 can be eye-clean or look like its full of coffee grounds (or worse, have flaws that are structural risks).
 
No idea how to answer with only these stats. I've seen some hideous VS2 and some gorgeous SI2

Again The only thing the buyer is looking at is GIA he isn't looking at cut or where the flaws or he just asked my opinion

3.17
I think for someone I didn't know the 3ct seems like the safer option. In terms of colour if she's colour sensitive and also a rock at that the 5ct size might show more colour and also have visible inclusions being an SI2.

I totally agree and she is a petite non flashy girl. I told him size doesn't always matter 3.17 is still huge and I'd personally rather have a 3.17 .
He showed me video of the 5.17 and I said its yellow ...He said it faces up white. I didn't see that
 
A modern k oval will not be attractive

there are exceptions to every rule but it would not be attractive.
 
Neither

I’d get a 2 carat D-F, Vs1-vs2

color shows a lot with fancy cuts

She’s not flashy? And she’s getting a 3+ carat rock?! :lol:

There was a girl in my office who had a massive, but tinted oval and it really showed a lot even tho it seemed nicely cut

I suspect it was I/J
 
Stats don’t provide enough info. Would need to see stones and certificates.
 
The odds of k + si2 being gross are really really high. The odds of i + vs2 being non-embarrassing are pretty good.

If my sweetheart bought me a 5 ct k + si2 I would feel self-conscious that other people would be thinking he sacrificed color and clarity for size. Which would be a correct assumption.
 
The odds of k + si2 being gross are really really high. The odds of i + vs2 being non-embarrassing are pretty good.

If my sweetheart bought me a 5 ct k + si2 I would feel self-conscious that other people would be thinking he sacrificed color and clarity for size. Which would be a correct assumption.

Agree.
 
Personally I think the larger one is too large and, no offense, obnoxious (sorry). Also, I would go for the higher color especially, and also for clarity given we don’t know the optics, etc., of that specific SI2. The smaller (!) is plenty large without people suspecting it is fake.
 
So far so good I am going to present to him tomorrow. I am hoping he gives me the GIA certicates on both. I think he already bought the 5.17 but said he can return it
Stats don’t provide enough info. Would need to see stones and certificates.

I really understand …the person who’s buying the stones not going to look at the stats they’re just going to look at the size ,the color and clarity and they’re not gonna look at any other statistics only that they are GIA. So I’m just asking you from the cerebral point of you which one would you pick.
 
I actually wonder if he's seen the stones side by side since he couldn't tell the K was tinted lol.
 
I actually wonder if he's seen the stones side by side since he couldn't tell the K was tinted lol.

I don’t think so I think he just went with the K and knows that he can return it if he’s not happy he’s just been given videos on his cell phone. I’m trying to tell him that on a larger stone he’s going to notice the size. And his girlfriend is such a wonderful person. And I think that she would be so happy with a 3 carat which is so large. That has a nicer color. That’s my opinion but I think that I know her well enough to think that she agree .
 
Personally I think the larger one is too large and, no offense, obnoxious (sorry). Also, I would go for the higher color especially, and also for clarity given we don’t know the optics, etc., of that specific SI2. The smaller (!) is plenty large without people suspecting it is fake.

I one hundred percent totally agree with you . Many jewelers don’t understand why it was important to PS ers and me personally to buy diamond studs in G, H, . Even though they’re in my ears. But that does matter to me and we are looking at a stone that’s 5 carat you’re going to notice as Si2 matter how “” Eye clean” the stone is .
 
Personally I think the larger one is too large and, no offense, obnoxious (sorry). Also, I would go for the higher color especially, and also for clarity given we don’t know the optics, etc., of that specific SI2. The smaller (!) is plenty large without people suspecting it is fake.

I feel the same way. I have 3.66 and its huge and i'm 5 ' 0 tall lol 5 is just too big and I fear that she will see the yellow and flaws.
 
Well I’m not married to a set of specs, personally, and I’m definitely a “bigger is better” gal. If the K SI2 was reasonably white face up (obviously some tint is to be expected, but depends how much and what colour it leans) and reasonably eye-clean (a bit difficult at SI2 but doable if the inclusions are spaced out or prongable; and it was cut decently well enough to sparkle and not be just one giant glassy rock - I would much prefer the 5! I don’t need perfection, and eye clean is mind clean for me.

However, if the 5ct was speckled like a piece of gravel and an unattractive sickly yellow with a bow tie the size of my head; I wouldn’t want it.

I think the 5ct is deserving of a lookie loo, for sure. But I wouldn’t buy it without a return policy. Most people are not that observant or discerning and it’s fully possible the girlfriend will love the 5ct. Then again she might be colour sensitive and even the 3ct won’t do cos it’s an I.

The final call needs to be the girlfriend’s.
 
Well I’m not married to a set of specs, personally, and I’m definitely a “bigger is better” gal. If the K SI2 was reasonably white face up (obviously some tint is to be expected, but depends how much and what colour it leans) and reasonably eye-clean (a bit difficult at SI2 but doable if the inclusions are spaced out or prongable; and it was cut decently well enough to sparkle and not be just one giant glassy rock - I would much prefer the 5! I don’t need perfection, and eye clean is mind clean for me.

However, if the 5ct was speckled like a piece of gravel and an unattractive sickly yellow with a bow tie the size of my head; I wouldn’t want it.

I think the 5ct is deserving of a lookie loo, for sure. But I wouldn’t buy it without a return policy. Most people are not that observant or discerning and it’s fully possible the girlfriend will love the 5ct. Then again she might be colour sensitive and even the 3ct won’t do cos it’s an I.

The final call needs to be the girlfriend’s.

It is also difficult if your love gives you the ring and all you have told him is you wish to have an oval or 3 carats or more and you get the 5 carat K how can you say I'd prefer the smaller 3 I .....unless you are really honest.
 
Between the 2. I would pick the 3ct I/VS for sure! I still have jewelry nightmares about being proposed to by a piss yellow piece of spit….especially since I prioritize color and clarity over size.
 
It is also difficult if your love gives you the ring and all you have told him is you wish to have an oval or 3 carats or more and you get the 5 carat K how can you say I'd prefer the smaller 3 I .....unless you are really honest.

I would tell him to show her the 5ct and ask her if she’s happy with it or if she thinks it’s yellow etc. And tell her that he won’t be offended at all if she doesn’t like it. If she raises a doubt he can offer the 3ct as an option. I would not be uncomfortable being honest if I felt like my partner genuinely would not be upset by my honesty!
 
Is the proposal a surprise?
Best bet would be to get the girlfriend’s opinion, second best is the 3ct/I/VS.

Most people don’t obsess over jewelry the way people on this forum do - no shade, I’m here too! Maybe she wouldn’t care about a yellow tint and (likely) visible inclusions, maybe she wouldn’t be comfortable wearing a 5ct rock.

Ovals typically show a lot of color. IMHO lower colors on a modern cut don’t have the charm they do on antique cuts. SI2 is unlikely to be eye clean in a 5ct stone.

I know everything is relative (and dependent on social circle, etc) but ovals tend to face up very large, 3cts will already look like a ROCK. For reference, This is approximately what a 3ct vs 5ct oval look like on a size 5 finger (guessing size since you said she’s petite):
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Is the proposal a surprise?
Best bet would be to get the girlfriend’s opinion, second best is the 3ct/I/VS.

Most people don’t obsess over jewelry the way people on this forum do - no shade, I’m here too! Maybe she wouldn’t care about a yellow tint and (likely) visible inclusions, maybe she wouldn’t be comfortable wearing a 5ct rock.

Ovals typically show a lot of color. IMHO lower colors on a modern cut don’t have the charm they do on antique cuts. SI2 is unlikely to be eye clean in a 5ct stone.

I know everything is relative (and dependent on social circle, etc) but ovals tend to face up very large, 3cts will already look like a ROCK. For reference, This is approximately what a 3ct vs 5ct oval look like on a size 5 finger (guessing size since you said she’s petite):
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Love the photos thanks. Yeah the boss was in the buying and selling of jewelry so he knows what he is looking at. I am not sure how she would really feel. I know he gave her choice of stone shape and setting the rest she left to him .
 
Please indulge me Boss is about to buy girlfriend Oval ring he said would I prefer 3.17 I VS2 or 5.12 K SI2


no stats no judgement just your choice

3.17; the larger stone will look quite yellow.
 
The color doesn’t bother me but the SI2 on such a large stone could be a problem.
 
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